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09-05-2013, 07:22 AM   #346
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The Sony Xperia Z1 looks really interesting.

I'm using an iPhone at the moment, but Apple just annoys me in general (the obligatory iTunes software is a major turn off).

If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it.

I hope Sony has the success with these products it deserves.

P.S.: This post could be considered "off-topic" if all the Ricoh IFA excitement had been followed up with something of interest to photographers. Still some time left until Christmas, but I guess we need a new thread anyhow.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it.
Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100.

I like the idea in general. Kind of makes one wonder why the GXR series didn't act as a module for a smartphone.
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Maybe that is what is on its way...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Are they going to show the K-r and the K-5? No Optio WG, no Q, no GR, none of the DSLRs made since then?
People will have a strange experience of deja vu in Pentax booth.
GRs are still scarce in Oz, they come in small irregular batches. Maybe there'll be a preview model.
K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there, and 645D is all the same. Let's hope they'll have a new macro lens to try.
Qs are new. But they are not sellers in Oz; this isn't a territory for such cameras and Q7 won't be here anyway. Maybe Q10, but CR Kennedy is aware of what goes and what doesn't.

The MX-1, though, is perhaps the nicest thing they can show and such cameras are popular. For those who visited last expo and tried all Pentax gear, this time they can skip Pentax booth and lose nothing.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100.
If you choose "compact", you get the respective quality (or rather lack thereof).

Small lenses and sensors cannot produce the noise free and shallow DOF aesthetics normally associated with DSLRs.

The beauty of the QX Smart Lens concept is not that it is the tiniest possible, but that it can give you "real camera" performance with small parts that can be combined or used separately. Disassembled, the system is very pocketable. Not the tiniest possible, but probably the most pocketable for a given IQ.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there,
Biased much? The K-50 and K-r are worlds apart. The K-50 has an upgraded sensor, improved AF and tracking, dual wheels, individual AF Adjust, 100% coverage pentaprism OVF, focus peaking, improved CDAF. These bodies have nothing in common but K-mount and the Pentax name.

The K-5 II is not a dramatic difference for everyone, but it's highly significant to me. I will not recommend or purchase a K-5, but I would readily recommend a K-5 II. I would be happy to own one, except I am waiting for the new flagship APS-C body.
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Ok Poit, now we have it confirmed: during Melbourne Photo Expo in 2 weeks from now, we shall see a bleak, boring Pentax booth, same as damn three years ago, even with same cameras! I have also heard new Limiteds are coming to Oz in a month, so they won't be there either. Flashes too.
All this confirms how Ricoh is "handling the Pentax just the right way." Just as that sales rep said

But I'll explore Fuji's and Oly's booths thoroughly, and photo book publishing. Nikon and Canon don't interest me. Hopefully there'll be some film enthusiasts!
As a relative newbie to the experience of Pentax-land hype I'm as disappointed, if not more so, than everyone else.

Having said that, the sales chap I spoke to never mentioned 5 September or IFA, my post never mentioned 5 September or IFA, and we only became interested in that particular date when others (yourself included) said it was the day to watch

So, I still think there is an extremely good chance of new camera/s by Christmas. When will they be announced? I don't know. Who knows, maybe the 'biggest photography exhibition in the Southern Hemisphere' is the unlikely stage upon which they will be revealed...(Adam posted yesterday about new camera announcements being 'weeks away'...sounds like a good basis for a new rumour ).

In the meantime, I have two weddings to shoot in the coming weeks, so time to fire up the K20D and K10D and concentrate on taking photos. Enough of this obsessing already!
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Poit.
I shoot weddings with the same gear. But on my last wedding I had the most stress of any wedding ever.....
it was DARK. and the K20d simply could not keep up with artistic ambition. It could not focus well, and when that happens, you know the quality of picture goes out the window. I hate shooting just flash.....
Anyway, I want to see what comes after the K-5II BADLY!!!! For the first time I felt the equipment was really holding me back.

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This press conference is of so little interest, this site isn't even reporting on it. Oh how I miss the edge of your seat days of new lens cap announcements.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Steelski Quote
I want to see what comes after the K-5II
Just go with the K-5II. The AF improvements, especially in very low light, sound like 'just what the doctor ordered' for you.
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Messages from one of the admins of spanish site 'pentaxeros.com'. This guy is not a troll.

Pagina 8 - Pasado ma

"This next week i'll have a K3 prototype (...)This is just the beginning of a great year, you'll see."

Pagina 8 - Pasado ma

"Im sorry, i can't [tell anything]. If i'd say anything i'd be banned as a tester. The only thing i can tell you is that is going to be a success, and that the focus system is new"
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QuoteQuote:
This next week i'll have a K3 prototype
I did hear a very similar statement after last Photokina .
Now, I am a nonbeliever.
Does this thing finally - as promised - feature an aperture coupler?
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/200075-pentax-rico...-petition.html
Or even better - a FF sensor (APS-C might already be outdated)?
Mirrorless? Camera sales history from 2011 till today. Mirrorless hype is over. DSLR rules.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Poit Quote
As a relative newbie to the experience of Pentax-land hype I'm as disappointed, if not more so, than everyone else.

Having said that, the sales chap I spoke to never mentioned 5 September or IFA, my post never mentioned 5 September or IFA, and we only became interested in that particular date when others (yourself included) said it was the day to watch

So, I still think there is an extremely good chance of new camera/s by Christmas. When will they be announced? I don't know. Who knows, maybe the 'biggest photography exhibition in the Southern Hemisphere' is the unlikely stage upon which they will be revealed...(Adam posted yesterday about new camera announcements being 'weeks away'...sounds like a good basis for a new rumour ).

In the meantime, I have two weddings to shoot in the coming weeks, so time to fire up the K20D and K10D and concentrate on taking photos. Enough of this obsessing already!
I hoped that Sept 5 may be some planed introduction that precedes all other photography shows, and that by some chance in Melbourne Photo Expo, New York Photo Plus, then Photo Expo in France, we may see fruits of combined labour, available to wider audience.

But no. Southern hemisphere expos matter as yesterdays snow, there's no way they'll use it for anything. Ricoh isn't exhibiting in New York, not sure about France, but sounds more like a Melbourne chance.

This somewhat confirms my fears that any kind of development, for any new kind of cameras, started some merely 10 months ago. And that maybe, we'll see something new in the 2014 — towards mid 2014 — which will depend on economy, wider circumstances, etc.

In the meantime, let see what others do! Have fun with your K20!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
This somewhat confirms my fears that any kind of development, for any new kind of cameras, started some merely 10 months ago. And that maybe, we'll see something new in the 2014 towards mid 2014 which will depend on economy, wider circumstances, etc.
You're wrong.

By the way, what should be targeted is not some photo show, but shopping seasons. Now, when is the closest one?
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You're wrong.

By the way, what should be targeted is not some photo show, but shopping seasons. Now, when is the closest one?
I think it does confirm the 12 month cycle of a product update development. If camera is ready for Xmas shopping, then the development started as I suspected, not at all in summer 2012, or spring 2012, etc. In most part of 2012, they didn't do anything, practically speaking.
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