[mee]

Ricoh is very much into small and spartan with ergonomics as priority... So I agree that the k-5ii sucxessor will be about the same size, maybe lighter.

K-5iii -- a slightly more rounded version of the K-5ii with upgraded internals.

That will be out of my price range.. but maybe will look at a K-5ii once the K-5iii is out and well about.

[monochrome]

K-5iii K5-IIn -- a slightly more rounded version of the K-5ii with upgraded internals.

That will be out of my price range.. but maybe will look at a K-5ii once the K-5iii is out and well about.

Fixed it for you.

[Caat]

Isn't it entirely expected that we'd get new cameras by Christmas?

[Clavius]

Isn't it entirely expected that we'd get new cameras by Christmas?

We've been expecting new flagship cameras and not getting any for ages. No wonder many of us cheat with other brands.

[Fogel70]

We've been expecting new flagship cameras and not getting any for ages. No wonder many of us cheat with other brands.

How often do you expect them to come? I don't really think it's realistic to expect them to come more than every 18 month or so.
(It's now 12 month since last flagship came).

[Clavius]

How often do you expect them to come? I don't really think it's realistic to expect them to come more than every 18 month or so.
(It's now 12 month since last flagship came).

Last flagship camera was 2010. (K-5) You don't seriously expect us to count the minor updates of the same camera that followed afterwards, do you?

[eurostar]

I guess it's time for a new flagship camera. That's why they will relaease a new 645D...

[MarkJerling]

Last flagship camera was 2010. (K-5) You don't seriously expect us to count the minor updates of the same camera that followed afterwards, do you?

Very true!

[Fogel70]

Last flagship camera was 2010. (K-5) You don't seriously expect us to count the minor updates of the same camera that followed afterwards, do you?

Except of a few exceptions, there are usually small changes made going from one generation to next.
For some users there would be a bigger improvement on IQ going from K5 - K5 IIs, than going from K7 - K5.

[paranoia23]

and what type of user would that be ?

[Fogel70]

and what type of user would that be ?

There's users with AF problem on K5, which K7 didn't have, and K5 II(s) is certainty a major update on AF compared to K5.

But I think the AF problems on K5 has been discussed to death already.

[mee]

Fixed it for you.

What does an 'n' model represent?

[monochrome]

The MZ-5 and SF-1 AF and the P3/P30 MF film bodies had minor evolutionary upgrades with the n suffix appended. I don't think it really meant anything (perhaps to suggest 'new').

[paranoia23]

There's users with AF problem on K5, which K7 didn't have, and K5 II(s) is certainty a major update on AF compared to K5.

But I think the AF problems on K5 has been discussed to death already.

so?!
i dont get it ... in this low light situations where the autofocus has problems the k7 produces noise all over the place ...

[Fogel70]

so?!
i dont get it ... in this low light situations where the autofocus has problems the k7 produces nise all over the place ...

I think users will gain more by getting images in focus (by going K5 - K5 II) than to get noisy images replaced by OOF images (by going K7 - K5). On K5 you might have to stop down the lens so much in low light to get acceptable focus, that the noise advantage over K7 is gone.