New Camera/s by Christmas

**Rorschach** · 09-05-2013, 06:26 AM

Not interested in the least in this one.

Raffwal · 09-05-2013, 06:28 AM - **1 Like**

Much Ado About Nothing. Once again. Not surprised.

Class A · 09-05-2013, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by froeschle

"Video on demand" of the SONY press conference:
IFA - SONY Press Conference
[Kazuo Hirai (President and CEO, Sony Corporation)]

Now that's some fine example of public speaking.

steve1307 · 09-05-2013, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Rorschach

Not interested in the least in this one.

..... and there's quite a few empty seats in that conference room ...

TenZ.NL · 09-05-2013, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by steve1307

..... and there's quite a few empty seats in that conference room ...

Yep, noticed that too.

drypenn · 09-05-2013, 06:34 AM - **1 Like**

As long as Ricoh's not announcing that they have sold the Pentax brand to Burger King, I should be fine and happy!

troenaas · 09-05-2013, 06:35 AM - **1 Like**

Well, the cat is out of the bag!

Wait a minute, there were no cats in the bag!

I have to stop reading all the rumors in this forum, it leads to unrealistic and high expectations.

I need to get out and use the equipment I have!

After reading this I feel a lot better: Pentax K5 IIs vs Canon 5DMKII | Gracen

Happy shooting!

Last edited by troenaas; 09-05-2013 at 06:46 AM.

Uluru · 09-05-2013, 06:57 AM

Ok Poit, now we have it confirmed: during Melbourne Photo Expo in 2 weeks from now, we shall see a bleak, boring Pentax booth, same as damn three years ago, even with same cameras! I have also heard new Limiteds are coming to Oz in a month, so they won't be there either. Flashes too.
All this confirms how Ricoh is "handling the Pentax just the right way." Just as that sales rep said

But I'll explore Fuji's and Oly's booths thoroughly, and photo book publishing. Nikon and Canon don't interest me. Hopefully there'll be some film enthusiasts!

Kunzite · 09-05-2013, 07:21 AM

Are they going to show the K-r and the K-5? No Optio WG, no Q, no GR, none of the DSLRs made since then?

Class A · 09-05-2013, 07:22 AM

The Sony Xperia Z1 looks really interesting.

I'm using an iPhone at the moment, but Apple just annoys me in general (the obligatory iTunes software is a major turn off).

If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it.

I hope Sony has the success with these products it deserves.

P.S.: This post could be considered "off-topic" if all the Ricoh IFA excitement had been followed up with something of interest to photographers. Still some time left until Christmas, but I guess we need a new thread anyhow.

**Aristophanes** · 09-05-2013, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Class A

If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it.

Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100.

I like the idea in general. Kind of makes one wonder why the GXR series didn't act as a module for a smartphone.

mamethot · 09-05-2013, 07:31 AM

Maybe that is what is on its way...

Uluru · 09-05-2013, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Are they going to show the K-r and the K-5? No Optio WG, no Q, no GR, none of the DSLRs made since then?

People will have a strange experience of deja vu in Pentax booth.
GRs are still scarce in Oz, they come in small irregular batches. Maybe there'll be a preview model.
K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there, and 645D is all the same. Let's hope they'll have a new macro lens to try.
Qs are new. But they are not sellers in Oz; this isn't a territory for such cameras and Q7 won't be here anyway. Maybe Q10, but CR Kennedy is aware of what goes and what doesn't.

The MX-1, though, is perhaps the nicest thing they can show and such cameras are popular. For those who visited last expo and tried all Pentax gear, this time they can skip Pentax booth and lose nothing.

Class A · 09-05-2013, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100.

If you choose "compact", you get the respective quality (or rather lack thereof).

Small lenses and sensors cannot produce the noise free and shallow DOF aesthetics normally associated with DSLRs.

The beauty of the QX Smart Lens concept is not that it is the tiniest possible, but that it can give you "real camera" performance with small parts that can be combined or used separately. Disassembled, the system is very pocketable. Not the tiniest possible, but probably the most pocketable for a given IQ.

audiobomber · 09-05-2013, 11:07 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Uluru

K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there,

Biased much? The K-50 and K-r are worlds apart. The K-50 has an upgraded sensor, improved AF and tracking, dual wheels, individual AF Adjust, 100% coverage pentaprism OVF, focus peaking, improved CDAF. These bodies have nothing in common but K-mount and the Pentax name.

The K-5 II is not a dramatic difference for everyone, but it's highly significant to me. I will not recommend or purchase a K-5, but I would readily recommend a K-5 II. I would be happy to own one, except I am waiting for the new flagship APS-C body.

09-05-2013, 06:57 AM	#338
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Ok Poit, now we have it confirmed: during Melbourne Photo Expo in 2 weeks from now, we shall see a bleak, boring Pentax booth, same as damn three years ago, even with same cameras! I have also heard new Limiteds are coming to Oz in a month, so they won't be there either. Flashes too. All this confirms how Ricoh is "handling the Pentax just the right way." Just as that sales rep said But I'll explore Fuji's and Oly's booths thoroughly, and photo book publishing. Nikon and Canon don't interest me. Hopefully there'll be some film enthusiasts! Last edited by Uluru; 09-05-2013 at 07:17 AM.

09-05-2013, 08:03 AM	#343
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Kunzite Are they going to show the K-r and the K-5? No Optio WG, no Q, no GR, none of the DSLRs made since then? People will have a strange experience of deja vu in Pentax booth. GRs are still scarce in Oz, they come in small irregular batches. Maybe there'll be a preview model. K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there, and 645D is all the same. Let's hope they'll have a new macro lens to try. Qs are new. But they are not sellers in Oz; this isn't a territory for such cameras and Q7 won't be here anyway. Maybe Q10, but CR Kennedy is aware of what goes and what doesn't. The MX-1, though, is perhaps the nicest thing they can show and such cameras are popular. For those who visited last expo and tried all Pentax gear, this time they can skip Pentax booth and lose nothing. Last edited by Uluru; 09-05-2013 at 08:12 AM.

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09-05-2013, 06:26 AM	#331
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Not interested in the least in this one.

09-05-2013, 06:28 AM - 1 Like	#332
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	Much Ado About Nothing. Once again. Not surprised.

09-05-2013, 06:30 AM	#333
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by froeschle "Video on demand" of the SONY press conference: IFA - SONY Press Conference [Kazuo Hirai (President and CEO, Sony Corporation)] Now that's some fine example of public speaking.

09-05-2013, 06:31 AM	#334
steve1307 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,130	Originally posted by Rorschach Not interested in the least in this one. ..... and there's quite a few empty seats in that conference room ...

09-05-2013, 06:33 AM	#335
TenZ.NL Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Below sealevel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,100	Originally posted by steve1307 ..... and there's quite a few empty seats in that conference room ... Yep, noticed that too.

09-05-2013, 06:34 AM - 1 Like	#336
drypenn Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 963	As long as Ricoh's not announcing that they have sold the Pentax brand to Burger King, I should be fine and happy!

09-05-2013, 06:35 AM - 1 Like	#337
troenaas Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 668	Well, the cat is out of the bag! Wait a minute, there were no cats in the bag! I have to stop reading all the rumors in this forum, it leads to unrealistic and high expectations. I need to get out and use the equipment I have! After reading this I feel a lot better: Pentax K5 IIs vs Canon 5DMKII \| Gracen Happy shooting! Last edited by troenaas; 09-05-2013 at 06:46 AM.

09-05-2013, 07:21 AM	#339
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Are they going to show the K-r and the K-5? No Optio WG, no Q, no GR, none of the DSLRs made since then?

09-05-2013, 07:22 AM	#340
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	The Sony Xperia Z1 looks really interesting. I'm using an iPhone at the moment, but Apple just annoys me in general (the obligatory iTunes software is a major turn off). If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it. I hope Sony has the success with these products it deserves. P.S.: This post could be considered "off-topic" if all the Ricoh IFA excitement had been followed up with something of interest to photographers. Still some time left until Christmas, but I guess we need a new thread anyhow.

09-05-2013, 07:28 AM	#341
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by Class A If the compact digital camera market needed another nail in the coffin then the Sony QX Smart Lens concept would be it. Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100. I like the idea in general. Kind of makes one wonder why the GXR series didn't act as a module for a smartphone.

09-05-2013, 07:31 AM	#342
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	Maybe that is what is on its way...

09-05-2013, 10:52 AM	#344
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Aristophanes Already by far the biggest criticism of these Sony smartphone add-ons is that they are NOT compact, especially not the 100. If you choose "compact", you get the respective quality (or rather lack thereof). Small lenses and sensors cannot produce the noise free and shallow DOF aesthetics normally associated with DSLRs. The beauty of the QX Smart Lens concept is not that it is the tiniest possible, but that it can give you "real camera" performance with small parts that can be combined or used separately. Disassembled, the system is very pocketable. Not the tiniest possible, but probably the most pocketable for a given IQ.

09-05-2013, 11:07 AM - 2 Likes	#345
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Uluru K50 in colours looks like Kr very much, K5II is a small rehash of K5, nothing new there, Biased much? The K-50 and K-r are worlds apart. The K-50 has an upgraded sensor, improved AF and tracking, dual wheels, individual AF Adjust, 100% coverage pentaprism OVF, focus peaking, improved CDAF. These bodies have nothing in common but K-mount and the Pentax name. The K-5 II is not a dramatic difference for everyone, but it's highly significant to me. I will not recommend or purchase a K-5, but I would readily recommend a K-5 II. I would be happy to own one, except I am waiting for the new flagship APS-C body.