Originally posted by Clavius Someone please explain something to me...
When Pentax was still with Hoya, I could type the URL:
HOME | RICOH IMAGING and ended up in really Pentaxy site.
Now with Ricoh, I type in
HOME | RICOH IMAGING and end up on a Ricoh site. With the only reference to Pentax is the logo still on the camera bodies. Pentax bodies next to Ricoh cameras as well. That must be next in line to change, because it's really confusing. I honestly really do think the name "Pentax" is going to disappear.
Both links go to
www.Pentax.com. In the USA, at least, the image branding is still "
Pentax. A Ricoh Company" Of course that could be another example of Pentax USA being late updating thier website - but then it could be intentional, that PENTAX as a brand name is more important in the USA than in Japan, where Ricoh is the more powerful name.
In any case, the white K-50 featured on the Home Screen clearly has PENTAX in large black letters across the flash hump. I bet the camera has Pentax Digital Camera manufactured by Ricoh Imaging Corp, Ltd. printed on the bottom, too.
What's the issue?
P.S. My company, the second largest globally in our business (but owned by the LARGEST conglomerate in the overall broad industry) was acquired by the 7th largest company in our business (which was owned by the 4th largest conglomerate in the overall broad industry).
For some time our public name was (Acquiring Co. Name Acquired CO.Name). In March it changed to Acquiring Company Name. No references to my old company anywhere. Just never existed. Down the memory hole. The sins of the father . . . . Through their excesses and fatal errors, by association, our corporate parent had ruined the oldest remaining brand in our industry.
Sometimes the brand name that WE think is so important has negative associations that we overlook. Is it possible that people associate Pentax with old men who shoot film? With high school students who shoot brassy K1000's? With the totally failed sales / service model in USA? With Hoya Dealer Agreement policies that no amount of pleading sales calls will ever smooth over (that one is real)? With failed SDM motors? With Thom Hogan articles? With, "Excellent, but . . . " reviews? With quirky cameras for enthusiasts but not for consumers? With quirky cameras for enthusiasts but not for professionals? With quirky cameras for APSc enthusiasts who have sweet pancakes and mountains of old K-mount lenses, but Pentax doesn't have any
new FF glass?
Is it possible that Ricoh became the 267th largest company on Earth buying good companies with failed brands and applying the Ricoh name to them? If so why would they not do that in cameras? Is it possible the brand is already more damaged than we are willing to admit and Ricoh is being especially expedient - in order to
preserve the patents and technology - to
SAVE the K-mount?
Is it possible that Ricoh became the 267th largest company on Earth buying failed companies with good brands and applying the Ricoh name to them? If so why would they not do that in cameras? Is it possible the brand is still stronger than you are willing to admit and Ricoh is being especially expedient - in order to
preserve the patents and technology - to
SAVE the K-mount?
I don't know the answer in digital imaging. But in my business, all of
our systems and products and processes have replaced all of
their systems and products and processes, even though all of their managers have replaced all but one of our managers. The other guys - the BUYER'S employees - have had to learn new systems and change all their business models. I just keep plugging along.
It has all happened to me before - in 31 years in this business I've had 16 business cards, but I've never changed my telephone number. And last week they gave me another new box of 500 of
their business cards - and asked me to hand them my box of
my business cards so they could be destroyed.
I really don't know. I
really, truly don't know anything. I'm just thinking out loud here - but I've lived through this so many times that I know this.
Even truly boneheaded, 30-year-old self-absorbed B-School jerks don't throw away good brands. They just don't do it.
And GOOD managers REALLY WORK to rescue good brands.
So think before you post - there might be more to this than you know.