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Jonson PL · 03-26-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Richard Day

Let's wait and see, after all, as Pentaxians, we're used to the waiting game, aren't we?

If that ain’t the truth

China really seem to be moving when it comes to the latest from Pentax and electronics

frank · 03-26-2008, 07:30 PM

Here are some more DA1770 sample photos from my fellow Chinese friends (all wide open shots in JPG from K20D):

Crop of the above one:

Comments by those who tried it:
1. AF is silent (SDM) and fast (on par of the DA1645)
2. Pretty sharp wide open, enough for K20D's 14.6mp sensor
3. Almost no visiable CF or PF (or whatever you call it)
4. The lens extends quite long at 70mm end, longer than DA1645 at 16mm end
5. Built quality is about the same as DA1645
6. All in all a very nice walkabout and travel lens.

One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess.

clawhammer · 03-26-2008, 07:45 PM

Sold! I'll take one.

rzarbo · 03-26-2008, 08:02 PM

I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol

So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter?

Robin

frank · 03-26-2008, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by rzarbo

I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol

So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter?

Robin

The 1770 is smaller and lighter, reaches longer. That's why some guys want it even after they already got the DA*1650

And it's LBA, no cure for that as far as I know ...

creampuff · 03-26-2008, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by rzarbo

I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol

So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter?

Robin

Like frank said. But I also think after the frenzy over the DA*, the DA17-70 is definitely easier on the wallet for those with full blown LBA. The wider focal range is definitely a big plus and maybe the allure of f/2.8 isn't all that it's made out to be. With SR, a f/4 lens is definitely handholdable going by the restaurant pictures.

janneman · 03-27-2008, 12:47 AM

One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess.[/QUOTE]

Would make extra sense now that it is only usabla in sealed bodies (K100D probably a bridg camera)

frank · 03-27-2008, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by janneman

Would make extra sense now that it is only usabla in sealed bodies (K100D probably a bridg camera)

Heard it has some sealing to keep dust away, but probably not water ...

janneman · 03-27-2008, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by frank

Heard it has some sealing to keep dust away, but probably not water ...

Hmm, as it is more common to get dust in the lens than water, maybe dustfree is also weatherproof ....

Pentaxke · 03-27-2008, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by frank

One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess.

Bummer!

I was one of those potential buyers, but I guess I waited in vain... Why am I even staying with Pentax really? They won't deliver me a substitute for the ist D and now this.

I guess you could always use it manually but with this short a throwing distance (how do you call that?) that will be a hit and miss...

Och well, I guess I can always spend my money on Sigma's 17-70. Seems to be very good as well.

Boy, I can tell ya: my day started very bad...

janneman · 03-27-2008, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

Bummer!

Boy, I can tell ya: my day started very bad...

Errrr, I remember a post somehwere else that this would save you money so that you were really happy....

Pentaxke · 03-27-2008, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by janneman

Errrr, I remember a post somehwere else that this would save you money so that you were really happy....

That was meant sarcastically:
I can put it in another way, my money won't go to Pentax... Tamron 17-50 and Sigma 17-70 are both to believed very good performers too.

janneman · 03-27-2008, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxke

That was meant sarcastically:
I can put it in another way, my money won't go to Pentax... Tamron 17-50 and Sigma 17-70 are both to believed very good performers too.

Aha, I thought this was saracastically....

kyrios · 03-27-2008, 06:51 AM

Yammy.. fried rice is my favourite menu. Order me one! The fried rice, not the lens.

kyrios

ogl · 03-27-2008, 07:40 AM

Cool. I think that a lof Pentaxians will have this lense.
Sharp, fast.

03-26-2008, 07:30 PM	#47
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Here are some more DA1770 sample photos from my fellow Chinese friends (all wide open shots in JPG from K20D): Crop of the above one: Crop of the above one: Comments by those who tried it: 1. AF is silent (SDM) and fast (on par of the DA1645) 2. Pretty sharp wide open, enough for K20D's 14.6mp sensor 3. Almost no visiable CF or PF (or whatever you call it) 4. The lens extends quite long at 70mm end, longer than DA1645 at 16mm end 5. Built quality is about the same as DA1645 6. All in all a very nice walkabout and travel lens. One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess. Last edited by frank; 03-26-2008 at 08:44 PM.

03-27-2008, 12:47 AM	#52
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	sealing???? One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess.[/QUOTE] Would make extra sense now that it is only usabla in sealed bodies (K100D probably a bridg camera)

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03-26-2008, 03:23 PM	#46
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by Richard Day Let's wait and see, after all, as Pentaxians, we're used to the waiting game, aren't we? If that ain’t the truth China really seem to be moving when it comes to the latest from Pentax and electronics

03-26-2008, 07:45 PM	#48
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	Sold! I'll take one.

03-26-2008, 08:02 PM	#49
rzarbo Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Connecticut Photos: Albums Posts: 92	I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter? Robin

03-26-2008, 08:44 PM	#50
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by rzarbo I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter? Robin The 1770 is smaller and lighter, reaches longer. That's why some guys want it even after they already got the DA*1650 And it's LBA, no cure for that as far as I know ...

03-26-2008, 11:38 PM	#51
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by rzarbo I have been waiting for this lens to be released as a possible alternative to the DA* but now I see several people who I know have the DA* expressing an interest in the 17-70. lol So I guess my question is "why"? Other than LBA why might you want/need both? Since I am trying to decide between them what about the DA* might make you want this one as well? Is it just because this one will be smaller/lighter? Robin Like frank said. But I also think after the frenzy over the DA*, the DA17-70 is definitely easier on the wallet for those with full blown LBA. The wider focal range is definitely a big plus and maybe the allure of f/2.8 isn't all that it's made out to be. With SR, a f/4 lens is definitely handholdable going by the restaurant pictures.

03-27-2008, 01:05 AM	#53
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by janneman Would make extra sense now that it is only usabla in sealed bodies (K100D probably a bridg camera) Heard it has some sealing to keep dust away, but probably not water ...

03-27-2008, 02:12 AM	#54
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by frank Heard it has some sealing to keep dust away, but probably not water ... Hmm, as it is more common to get dust in the lens than water, maybe dustfree is also weatherproof ....

03-27-2008, 04:41 AM	#55
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by frank One more note: the lens might not work well on old non-SDM-support bodies. It won't AF on K100D or Ds, AF only works on K100D Super, K10D, K20D and K200D. That's a big minus for many potential buyers I guess. Bummer! I was one of those potential buyers, but I guess I waited in vain... Why am I even staying with Pentax really? They won't deliver me a substitute for the ist D and now this. I guess you could always use it manually but with this short a throwing distance (how do you call that?) that will be a hit and miss... Och well, I guess I can always spend my money on Sigma's 17-70. Seems to be very good as well. Boy, I can tell ya: my day started very bad...

03-27-2008, 04:54 AM	#56
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Pentaxke Bummer! Boy, I can tell ya: my day started very bad... Errrr, I remember a post somehwere else that this would save you money so that you were really happy....

03-27-2008, 05:10 AM	#57
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by janneman Errrr, I remember a post somehwere else that this would save you money so that you were really happy.... That was meant sarcastically: I can put it in another way, my money won't go to Pentax... Tamron 17-50 and Sigma 17-70 are both to believed very good performers too.

03-27-2008, 05:12 AM	#58
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Pentaxke That was meant sarcastically: I can put it in another way, my money won't go to Pentax... Tamron 17-50 and Sigma 17-70 are both to believed very good performers too. Aha, I thought this was saracastically....

03-27-2008, 06:51 AM	#59
kyrios Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Indonesia Posts: 123	Yammy.. fried rice is my favourite menu. Order me one! The fried rice, not the lens. kyrios

03-27-2008, 07:40 AM	#60
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Cool. I think that a lof Pentaxians will have this lense. Sharp, fast.

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