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08-27-2013, 04:47 PM   #151
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Is it safe to say that a Silver K-5IIs is about to be announced?

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Red does copy Canon's L range, but the colour doesn't bother most (though like many the green was fine)
I seriously doubt the new coatings will make much difference real world, though I don't object to them.
Rounded aperture blades again no complaints here.

But the real problem:
We'll see how the street prices hold up but that's not looking good IMO
Anyone want to pay nearly 600 for a f3.2 lens? No takers though not ;-)

HD PENTAX DA 15mm F4 ED AL Limited $699.95589.99HD PENTAX DA 21mm F3.2 AL Limited$699.95589.99HD PENTAX DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited$749.95639.99HD PENTAX DA 40mm F2.8 Limited$549.95439.99HD PENTAX DA 70mm F2.4 Limited $749.95639.99
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
Is it safe to say that a Silver K-5IIs is about to be announced?
I guess you can already choose the K-50 in silver.
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French suggested retail prices:
  • 15mm f/4: 599
  • 21mm f/3.2: 599
  • 35mm f/2.8 Macro: 649
  • 40mm f/2.8: 449
  • 70mm f/2.4: 649


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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
Is it safe to say that a Silver K-5IIs is about to be announced?
K-3 actually.
K-5 body size build(slightly wider) w/articulated screen.
20mp sensor with IQ improvements(RES, DR, NOISE ETC) across the board

Pentax is going to make alot of waves this year with the introduction of their new vision.
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Won't matter if Pentax have awesome bodies, if they're not competitive lenses wise few will look at the brand. It's fine being an old hand with a nice bunch of limited, but for new users the prices are intimidating and off putting, even if the bodies are really good that's going to do real harm to the brand. Ricoh IMO are not right for Pentax, same failed strategy as Hoya had price gouging and it's killing K mount.
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Eh, I'd reserve judgment until actually seeing what the street prices turn out to be. Ricoh's been pretty good lately about periodically putting out some great deals. And it's not like the SMC Limiteds are just going to go away. Indeed, prices on the used market are likely to drop in the short term.

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Won't matter if Pentax have awesome bodies, if they're not competitive lenses wise few will look at the brand. It's fine being an old hand with a nice bunch of limited, but for new users the prices are intimidating and off putting, even if the bodies are really good that's going to do real harm to the brand. Ricoh IMO are not right for Pentax, same failed strategy as Hoya had price gouging and it's killing K mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kenntak Quote
I think this is good news. All of those limited lenses are well-appreciated already, and this would improve them even more. I want to buy some limited lenses at some point, so this is great for people like me who are just starting out. One thing though, WR was not added. I suppose that would have increased the cost and possibly weight or size.
Seems like a decent update. What is everybody griping about? I suspect WR
on these lenses is not feasible due to the compactness and quick shift.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr Spocko Quote
Won't matter if Pentax have awesome bodies, if they're not competitive lenses wise few will look at the brand. It's fine being an old hand with a nice bunch of limited, but for new users the prices are intimidating and off putting, even if the bodies are really good that's going to do real harm to the brand. Ricoh IMO are not right for Pentax, same failed strategy as Hoya had price gouging and it's killing K mount.
I'm not sure what prices you're referring too, but have you priced upper lenses in other mounts lately(Sony, Nikon etc)?
I just finished putting together a Zeiss FF kit with a final cost that will likely continue to haunt me for years to come. And so I'm really not sure where your critique stands with respect to the current market personally.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnBee Quote
K-3 actually.
K-5 body size build(slightly wider) w/articulated screen.
20mp sensor with IQ improvements(RES, DR, NOISE ETC) across the board

Pentax is going to make alot of waves this year with the introduction of their new vision.
I hope your right. The addition of the DA limited glass in Silver hints at a silver K-3 or K-5IIs. Silver has done well for Olympus and Fuji.
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My views are shared by quite a few:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52047981

In respect of Zeiss are we talking about MF Canikon Zeiss or A mount Sony Zeiss. Either way yes they are expensive, but these makers have other offerings too which are priced better than Pentax can dream of. Only Pentax could release a 50mm f1.8 and try to charge over 210 for it!

It's not just high end stuff, the limited lenses are too slow for many people. They are nice but they're not winning over the bread and butter Canikon offerings.
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Sony "Zeiss" is not Zeiss. Not even close. They just license the name. Just as Panasonic licenses the Leica name.

QuoteOriginally posted by Mr Spocko Quote
My views are shared by quite a few:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52047981

In respect of Zeiss are we talking about MF Canikon Zeiss or A mount Sony Zeiss. Either way yes they are expensive, but these makers have other offerings too which are priced better than Pentax can dream of. Only Pentax could release a 50mm f1.8 and try to charge over 210 for it!

It's not just high end stuff, the limited lenses are too slow for many people. They are nice but they're not winning over the bread and butter Canikon offerings.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr Spocko Quote
It's not just high end stuff, the limited lenses are too slow for many people.
If weight and size are not restrictions, optical design gets easier (look at sigma.. or Samyang manual focus offerings). If you do want small light lenses, some sacrifices must be made. Need faster? You have acamera with clean files at ISO1600 and huge Dynamic Range... Faster for what? DoF? not much to do with aperture
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr Spocko Quote
My views are shared by quite a few:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52047981

In respect of Zeiss are we talking about MF Canikon Zeiss or A mount Sony Zeiss. Either way yes they are expensive, but these makers have other offerings too which are priced better than Pentax can dream of. Only Pentax could release a 50mm f1.8 and try to charge over 210 for it!

It's not just high end stuff, the limited lenses are too slow for many people. They are nice but they're not winning over the bread and butter Canikon offerings.
You have a point. Nice update, but currently overpriced.
Don't get me wrong, I love my DA limiteds, but the prime market is now extremely competitive (different from when these lenses were originally designed). A couple of other examples of compact, much faster lenses that are well regarded: Fuji 35mm F1.4 - ~$600, Olympus 45mm F1.8 ~$400.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Sony "Zeiss" is not Zeiss. Not even close. They just license the name. Just as Panasonic licenses the Leica name.
Actually it depends on the lens. The CZ 85 and the CZ 135 are Zeiss lenses by design. One of the problems with the E-mount system is that Zeiss has not been able to keep up and Sony is now turning to Olympus, who in reality probably makes better glass anyway.
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