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08-28-2013, 10:04 AM - 2 Likes   #271
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I conclude that responding to negativity just keeps the thread alive. Reading negativity just keeps me depressed. Why don't we just give all the negative complainers a thread to complain on and leave them in there to complain to each other?

This one will do for a start.

08-28-2013, 10:23 AM   #272
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Next disappointment from Pentax
No real innovation. Only old stuff in new colours with minor improvements like it was with the Pentax K-5 II, K-50, MX-1 or the K-01.
More "Green eggs and ham".......
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I conclude that responding to negativity just keeps the thread alive. Reading negativity just keeps me depressed. Why don't we just give all the negative complainers a thread to complain on and leave them in there to complain to each other?

This one will do for a start.
I think we also would need a thread for complainers complaining on complainers..
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I conclude that responding to negativity just keeps the thread alive. Reading negativity just keeps me depressed. Why don't we just give all the negative complainers a thread to complain on and leave them in there to complain to each other?

This one will do for a start.
Why feel like that? For me it's ok with people having different opinions. If everybody would be only positive all the time it would be nothing but boring reading these threads so i welcome both negative, positive and neutral comments

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I think we also would need a thread for complainers complaining on complainers..
I think that's a lousy idea. Whom do I complain to about it?
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A K-5 with a silver HD Ltd would look cool on the PF banner at the top of the page.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I conclude that responding to negativity just keeps the thread alive. Reading negativity just keeps me depressed. Why don't we just give all the negative complainers a thread to complain on and leave them in there to complain to each other?

This one will do for a start.
Is complaining about your favourite brand disappearing so quickly that strange then?
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I think that's a lousy idea. Whom do I complain to about it?
You need a written complaint sent to all members of the secret PentaxForum committee..

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Is complaining about your favourite brand disappearing so quickly that strange then?
For Pete's sake, new Pentax branded products were announced today.
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Is complaining about your favourite brand disappearing so quickly that strange then?
Nothing is disappearing. That's just silliness. Who cares if every new product is targeted at the people who live in these forums? At least there is new stuff coming. How any one can read that as a death knell is beyond me.

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It is when:
1) Ricoh is continuing to happily churn out Pentax-labeled products
2) In the time since the Pentax mark began to be used on Japanese cameras in 1957, a company with "Pentax" in the name has existed for less than eleven years (2002-2006 as the Pentax Corporation, 2006-2011 as Hoya Pentax, and 2011-2013 as Pentax-Ricoh Imaging Co).

So Pentax is back to being a line of products rather than a company name? Big deal.

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Is complaining about your favourite brand disappearing so quickly that strange then?
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Complaints are like trash cans - everybody has one and they all stink.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
It is when:
1) Ricoh is continuing to happily churn out Pentax-labeled products
2) In the time since the Pentax mark began to be used on Japanese cameras in 1957, a company with "Pentax" in the name has existed for less than eleven years (2002-2006 as the Pentax Corporation, 2006-2011 as Hoya Pentax, and 2011-2013 as Pentax-Ricoh Imaging Co).

So Pentax is back to being a line of products rather than a company name? Big deal.
In a very short amount of time:
1. the name Pentax disappeared online. (Pentax website, Pentax Facebook, etc all turning into Ricoh;
2. the company renamed itself from Pentax Ricoh Imaging to just Ricoh;
3. relabelled one of their most important product lines to not show Pentax anymore, and not show the Pentax-green stripe, but the Ricoh-red stripe;
4. removed the Pentax name from the latest point and shoot. (Announced today.)

What? You all think it's going to stop now suddenly? That's called denial.

And I think the fans have every right to complain when their brand is being but to sleep like that. It's not going to help, but it's their right.
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3. relabelled one of their most important product lines to not show Pentax anymore, and not show the Pentax-green stripe, but the Ricoh-red stripe;
Lies.
Both the relabeling:
http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/news/8259634114/family.jpg?v=2459
and the "Pentax-green", which is no Pentax-green but a simple color marker for the DA line (as red is for the HD line).
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It's all B.S. no news, no sign of live...
Thinking about leaving the system - at least weather sealing would have been a new feature...

Btw wide open the apeture of these lenses has always been round......and we are not talking super high aperture lenses, so we often shoot wide open...
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