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09-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #586
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan Quote
Personally, I'm not bothered by the lack of a WR 35 mm or any wider lens. To my mind, a weather resistant zoom makes much more sense than a prime as it can obviate the need to change lenses in inclement weather. I would exclude telephotos from this as activities such as birding often take place in less than ideal conditions. I'm not saying there isn't a market for a WR 35mm, I'm merely suggesting that it might not be as large as some people seem to think. If you really want weather resistance, Pentax has it covered from 16mm to 300mm in its DA* range.
Point taken, they do - with pricey lenses, but in line with the competition. As others mention, I would think there is a gap for the mid range lenses to be WR/ with DC motors. I would buy both the 17-70 and 55-300 if offered like this, at full retail.

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I think the Limited Zoom on the roadmap isn't Limited any more, which might mean it is Weather Resistant instead.
I'm hoping it is a rework of the 17-70 with a smaller front element, and completion of the WR (since the current 17-70 has the rear ring), together with the DC motor. And yes, I will buy one, if the optical quality is better than the 18-135mm at equivalent focal lengths.


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09-24-2013, 02:55 PM   #587
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Don't forget that Pentax really pushes the primes more than most companies, to the point that this is a reason to get into Pentax over other companies. Yet they don't have a truly fast 35 (the 2.4 is ok, but not fast), and the FA35 is pretty insanely priced, if you can get one (1,000+ Euros now in Germany). The 31 could fit that bill, to some extent.

The bigger thing is that Pentax has a confused line up; there is no WR fast 35. They are dedicated to APSc, or so we think and see, but they only made a 55 as a fast, WR lens. Few are using that as their "normal" lens.

Pentax needs to produce a WR, fast 35 for "normal" FL shooters. And finally produce a fast 24, one of the "classic" focal lengths that has resurged in popularity in the last few years. Preferably WR, to compete with the street shooting cams, like the X100, RX1, X2, and so on.

If Pentax had any vision to do so, it can make itself the choice of streetshooters, war shooters, correspondents, desert, etc. With sealed versions of those lenses. The hipsters would buy in like crazy if they found out they could shoot in the rain.
The 31 is the 600 pound gorilla in the room. Why would they want to offer a (potentially better) option than a revered (and expensive) lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I think the Limited Zoom on the roadmap isn't Limited any more, which might mean it is Weather Resistant instead.
The most recent roadmap I saw (linked on OP of the "new roadmap" thread) still says DA Zoom Limited, with an approximate range of 20-40mm.

Others have said this I think, but I would like to see this lens be the spiritual successor to the F35-70. How about a 20-50/3.5 the size of, say, the 35 Ltd for $800? :-) Any takers?
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QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
The most recent roadmap I saw (linked on OP of the "new roadmap" thread) still says DA Zoom Limited, with an approximate range of 20-40mm.

Others have said this I think, but I would like to see this lens be the spiritual successor to the F35-70. How about a 20-50/3.5 the size of, say, the 35 Ltd for $800? :-) Any takers?
[EDIT: The DA (approx.) 17~70 was originally DA*, not DA Limited. I was incorrect in this post]

The 17-70-ish (rumored to be f/2.8 constant) is no longer Limited, only the 20-40 zoom..


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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I hope Pentax will consider this WR
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It never was; it was labelled as DA*.
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QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
The most recent roadmap I saw (linked on OP of the "new roadmap" thread) still says DA Zoom Limited, with an approximate range of 20-40mm.
QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
It never was; it was labelled as DA*.
It appears that two different lenses on the roadmap are being mixed up.

As filoxophy says, there is a "DA Zoom Limited"; I think it is more like 22-38mm at most than 20-40mm. This hasn't changed on the roadmap for a year and a half at least.

As Mistral75 says, there is a "DA Zoom", which used to be a "DA* Zoom"; I had thought this was about 18-85mm at most, but it is now being talked of as a 17-70mm f/2.8. This "DA* to DA" is a change in the latest roadmap.
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Maybe nice in the spirit of this topic: most (if not all) lens roadmaps since 2005. Collected by a fellow Dutch forum member (Frederik9111). Don't know if such a collection already exists on this forum.

From new to old:

11. August 28, 2013



10. September 25, 2012



9. February 2, 2012



8. March 24, 2009



7. March 3, 2009



6. September 22, 2008



5. March 18, 2008



4. October, 2007



3. Fall 2006



2. Spring 2006



1. Fall 2005




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I'm hoping the FA line is updated with coatings that are more digital friendly as a reasonable next step if they aren't going to do a major overhaul.
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Love the roadmapsss.
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WoW! Thanks, Asahiflex! That makes interesting reading.
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So from this we can conclude that the 1.4x TC is five years late!
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Thanks for posting that, Asahiflex.

Now I can see how the Pentax lens roadmap has evolved every now and then.. guess I better just wait for the lenses to really be announced lol
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The roadmapsss should be saved in a sticky thread...
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By the looks of it, no more primes aside from the DA 560 but equally sought after zooms. I hope Pentax release them all ASAP.

Thank you Asahiflex for remindingus all.
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