New HD DA Limited lenses

Kenntak · 08-27-2013, 08:28 AM

I wonder if this means that the original limited lenses will be sold at a reduced price (maybe in line with the prices before the price increase in the USA).

Caat · 08-27-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Kenntak

I wonder if this means that the original limited lenses will be sold at a reduced price (maybe in line with the prices before the price increase in the USA).

Only to clear old stocks I would think.

jimr-pdx · 08-27-2013, 08:32 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by lesmore49

I agree. Red is Canon L.

I have the 40 and 70 Limited lenses ...I like the green...'Pentax' green in my view.

Oh man - will we re-do the Limited version of the Forum t-shirt? Now my green-stripe shirt tells the world I'm behind the times...

Fogel70 · 08-27-2013, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Caat

Only to clear old stocks I would think.

But I don't think Pentax a large stock on these lenses, so it might be up to the retailer to sell them out or not.

JPT · 08-27-2013, 08:43 AM

Perhaps they removed the Pentax logo to make it look more timeless. Pre-80s lenses didn't have brand logos as far as I know. Companies change their logo fonts more frequently than the period I want to keep using my lenses. My DA21 looks a bit strange with the classic font on the K-01, for example. The different fonts clash.

bdery · 08-27-2013, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

but I don't like that they changed the colour to red on the ring. Reminds me too much of Canon L lenses.

Ditto. I prefer the green, even though it changes nothing to the IQ.

I'm not sure about the "40/2.8" lettering on the top, either.

Originally posted by Asahiflex

After all the WR lenses have a red rubber O-ring around the bayonet.

some are black o-rings.

Originally posted by JPT

Great news! Although I've just bought the 21 and 40, so perhaps I should be annoyed.

Why? Rounded apertures are nice, the new coating is probably nice, but your lenses are just as good as they were last week.

Only the bokeh of the 21 could be significantly affected, but you would probably loose its talent for star effects in low light.

bobell69 · 08-27-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by DeadJohn

Unexpected upgrade to some already very good lenses. I look forward to seeing a direct comparison of the same scene shot with the old and new versions. A round aperture and red paint shouldn't increase manufacturing costs but the modified coating might, and of course there's the new product markup.

I'm surprised that they didn't add WR, but that may have required too much engineering work. There's more to be done for WR than slapping a red gasket on the mount. Focus ring, dof scale, and other moving parts all need to be sealed.

I wonder if the round aperture blades will improve the already great bokeh on these lenses?

tzrenz0 · 08-27-2013, 08:56 AM

Wow, great to see them updated. Now the waiting game commences.

Clavius · 08-27-2013, 08:57 AM - **1 Like**

Updated FA's, now that would be most welcome here.

**monochrome** · 08-27-2013, 08:58 AM

Almost none of my Takumar, K, or M lenses has Pentax on the body - but I understand. I hate change too.

Fogel70 · 08-27-2013, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

"We don't have a reason, but let's complain anyway"

It writes Pentax, just above the aperture ring. There's no doubt about the product brand used.

I'm not complaining, I just show what's been done. Most of the new DA Ltds only have Pentax logo on the front.

ChristianRock · 08-27-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Updated FA's, now that would be most welcome here.

Totally agreed!

clover · 08-27-2013, 09:12 AM

I have the 3 lenses in limited Silver and am trying to "sell" them but this news will make their price drop.

Nevertheless, I am happy, and maybe waiting for the HD for Limited FA, this will confirm FF DSLR

siamthai · 08-27-2013, 09:17 AM

I doubt it's possible to make a WR ltd lens. A ltd lens is a small and compact lens and if it should be made WR it would become to big to be a real Pentax ltd lens. Correct me if I'm wrong

mecrox · 08-27-2013, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by clover

I have the 3 lenses in limited Silver and am trying to "sell" them but this news will make their price drop.

Nevertheless, I am happy, and maybe waiting for the HD for Limited FA, this will confirm FF DSLR

Not necessarily. The new lenses will kindle more interest in the limited series, but if the new ones are priced too highly then demand for the first gen ones and hence prices second-hand could easily increase. Since Pentax seem to be pricing their lenses rather imaginatively these days, such a scenario isn't entirely unlikely - "great lens but at this price the real bargain is buying the older green-band examples second-hand, etc, etc."

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08-27-2013, 08:28 AM	#61
Kenntak Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 198	I wonder if this means that the original limited lenses will be sold at a reduced price (maybe in line with the prices before the price increase in the USA).

08-27-2013, 08:31 AM	#62
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Kenntak I wonder if this means that the original limited lenses will be sold at a reduced price (maybe in line with the prices before the price increase in the USA). Only to clear old stocks I would think.

08-27-2013, 08:32 AM - 2 Likes	#63
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	Originally posted by lesmore49 I agree. Red is Canon L. I have the 40 and 70 Limited lenses ...I like the green...'Pentax' green in my view. Oh man - will we re-do the Limited version of the Forum t-shirt? Now my green-stripe shirt tells the world I'm behind the times...

08-27-2013, 08:39 AM	#64
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by Caat Only to clear old stocks I would think. But I don't think Pentax a large stock on these lenses, so it might be up to the retailer to sell them out or not.

08-27-2013, 08:43 AM	#65
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Perhaps they removed the Pentax logo to make it look more timeless. Pre-80s lenses didn't have brand logos as far as I know. Companies change their logo fonts more frequently than the period I want to keep using my lenses. My DA21 looks a bit strange with the classic font on the K-01, for example. The different fonts clash.

08-27-2013, 08:49 AM	#66
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by Fogel70 but I don't like that they changed the colour to red on the ring. Reminds me too much of Canon L lenses. Ditto. I prefer the green, even though it changes nothing to the IQ. I'm not sure about the "40/2.8" lettering on the top, either. Originally posted by Asahiflex After all the WR lenses have a red rubber O-ring around the bayonet. some are black o-rings. Originally posted by JPT Great news! Although I've just bought the 21 and 40, so perhaps I should be annoyed. Why? Rounded apertures are nice, the new coating is probably nice, but your lenses are just as good as they were last week. Only the bokeh of the 21 could be significantly affected, but you would probably loose its talent for star effects in low light.

08-27-2013, 08:55 AM	#67
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	Originally posted by DeadJohn Unexpected upgrade to some already very good lenses. I look forward to seeing a direct comparison of the same scene shot with the old and new versions. A round aperture and red paint shouldn't increase manufacturing costs but the modified coating might, and of course there's the new product markup. I'm surprised that they didn't add WR, but that may have required too much engineering work. There's more to be done for WR than slapping a red gasket on the mount. Focus ring, dof scale, and other moving parts all need to be sealed. I wonder if the round aperture blades will improve the already great bokeh on these lenses?

08-27-2013, 08:56 AM	#68
tzrenz0 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gold Coast Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Wow, great to see them updated. Now the waiting game commences.

08-27-2013, 08:57 AM - 1 Like	#69
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Updated FA's, now that would be most welcome here.

08-27-2013, 08:58 AM	#70
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Almost none of my Takumar, K, or M lenses has Pentax on the body - but I understand. I hate change too.

08-27-2013, 09:03 AM	#71
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by Kunzite "We don't have a reason, but let's complain anyway" It writes Pentax, just above the aperture ring. There's no doubt about the product brand used. I'm not complaining, I just show what's been done. Most of the new DA Ltds only have Pentax logo on the front.

08-27-2013, 09:11 AM	#72
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by Clavius Updated FA's, now that would be most welcome here. Totally agreed!

08-27-2013, 09:12 AM	#73
clover Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Near Paris Posts: 141	I have the 3 lenses in limited Silver and am trying to "sell" them but this news will make their price drop. Nevertheless, I am happy, and maybe waiting for the HD for Limited FA, this will confirm FF DSLR

08-27-2013, 09:17 AM	#74
siamthai Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Svealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 172	I doubt it's possible to make a WR ltd lens. A ltd lens is a small and compact lens and if it should be made WR it would become to big to be a real Pentax ltd lens. Correct me if I'm wrong

08-27-2013, 09:18 AM	#75
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by clover I have the 3 lenses in limited Silver and am trying to "sell" them but this news will make their price drop. Nevertheless, I am happy, and maybe waiting for the HD for Limited FA, this will confirm FF DSLR Not necessarily. The new lenses will kindle more interest in the limited series, but if the new ones are priced too highly then demand for the first gen ones and hence prices second-hand could easily increase. Since Pentax seem to be pricing their lenses rather imaginatively these days, such a scenario isn't entirely unlikely - "great lens but at this price the real bargain is buying the older green-band examples second-hand, etc, etc."