New flash: AF360FGZ II AW

johnmflores · 08-31-2013, 01:14 PM - **1 Like**

I'm gonna photobomb all the pissing contests in the forum. It's outta control

jonny1986 · 08-31-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by bxf

Are you sure? The fact that there are counter-arguments to what he's saying would imply that "we don't get it".

From my perspective, I think it's difficult to argue with the sentiment that these new Pentax flashes are still no match for some others, at a price that exceeds the (better) others. Sounds to me like reasonable grounds for disenchantment.

and the most disappointment is tha the ratio group flash is probably easiy fixable with software not hardware related. in additicion considering pentax change flash evey 7 years, we won't see this feature before 2020.

hoanpham · 08-31-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

I'm gonna photobomb all the pissing contests in the forum. It's outta control

+100

I love your bike man

repaap · 08-31-2013, 01:29 PM

Well there you have it. Seems like there is no problem then.
I bet you that you can find what you ask for and even more, good luck.!

Originally posted by jonny1986

the bigger light the better....a led light so small is useless apart some macro of cheap grab video...a youngnuo led light cost 40 euro and is a much better solution. so good to have the led light but i would have preferred a new wireless system, a more powerful and fast flash than a led light that in practice is of tiny use.

thibs · 08-31-2013, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by bxf

Are you sure?

Yes we are.

thibs · 08-31-2013, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Wow. Six Hidden messages in a row. That has GOT to be an all-time record.

Funny, got the same number of hidden posts in a row. How's that?

**monochrome** · 08-31-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by bxf

Hang on, I'll ask Digitalis

Yeah, well then maybe.

But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

hoanpham · 08-31-2013, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

+100

I believe this

jonny1986 · 08-31-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by dcshooter

Actually, I was already in this thread BEFORE you came in to REPEATEDLY post the same complaint. Like I said, we heard all of your complaints the first time you levied them. the first time, and you are acting like a pompous jerk, belittling "typical Pentax users" as only taking pictures of bugs and flowers.

You can't seem to get it through your skull that there are users out there for whom weather-sealing, LED, etc. might be useful because you don't understand that there are people with needs in a flash (and photographic system) other than your own. If you think another system fits your needs better, then by all means go purchase it. But as others have said, there are those here who would like to discuss things about these flashes other than how much they suck and about how overpriced they are without having even seen what the actual street prices are, what additional features there might be, or how well they handle in a real life shoot.

And no one cares how much you have spent on Pentax gear if all you have to add to the conversation is condescension and tiresome, repetitive complaints.

so i hope to see a review by you when you buy this flash..because you wlll buy it?

street price?
the problem is that you don't even know what you are talking about.
bh have already listed the flash are pre order at the price listed in dpreview. the feature are already available in imaging resource pentax website.

Pentax AF540FGZ II Flash for Pentax DSLR Cameras 30439 B&H Photo

Pentax AF360FGZ II Flash for Pentax DSLR Cameras 30457 B&H Photo

seems they are real price. Pentax finally has first place in something...most expensive by a large margin hot shoe flash in the market. 2013 price with 2000 technology, well done....anyway i wait for the review of these flash cause i'm sure you will pull the trigger at this price..

jpette · 08-31-2013, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Kozlok

The KX doesn't support an internal AF assist light, so I'm sure it's an insurmountable problem. The camera probably lacks the basic ability to send a request to the AF assist light since it's not in the hardware to start with.

@Kozlok:
Hello, why you said this ?
For internal AF, It's true ( Kx has not Assis Led Include into K-x)
BUT, when i connect my Fgz 360 v1, you select SB Mode in your Kx
After you turn the selector go mode "Av"
And after you push EDGE in the shutter button, and you see the big led Red lighting (and no the flash) and Af runs ok
The average is 6 to 8Metres for this led red

You must be in low light for see this of your eyes, try (in Firmware 1.03)

And i waiting so the extended firmware update for K-x

Best regards

**Ex Finn.** · 08-31-2013, 05:47 PM - **1 Like**

Hot and heavy on this thread... time to sit on a cooler full of ICE and chill your balls down a bit, give your brain a chance to catch up. Just saying

bxf · 08-31-2013, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Yeah, well then maybe.

But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

**Digitalis** · 08-31-2013, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

yep it's true - I have so many different sized filters a stacked them all together and painted PENTAX FA*600mm f/5.6 ED IF on the side to impress my clients.

Originally posted by monochrome

From the Wikipedia discussion of trolls in Scandinavian mythology (Norse mythology). A Scandinavian folk belief that lightning frightens away trolls and jötnar appears in numerous Scandinavian folktales, and may be a late reflection of the god Thor's role in fighting such beings. Interesting, given this thread is about strobe flash.

**Digitalis** · 08-31-2013, 07:22 PM

johnmflores - nice bike, here is one of mine:

All done with wireless pentax flash too...

since you cannot say anything positive about the pentax flash system, or the people who use it well in spite of your complaints: you are going to have a visit to my otherwise empty blocked list jonny1986.

Kunzite · 08-31-2013, 11:56 PM

Nice!

By the way, did anyone notice the AF540FGZ II has the same MSRP as the EX600RT had at launch?

08-31-2013, 07:20 PM	#163
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by monochrome Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size. yep it's true - I have so many different sized filters a stacked them all together and painted PENTAX FA600mm f/5.6 ED IF on the side to impress my clients. Originally posted by monochrome From the Wikipedia discussion of trolls in Scandinavian mythology (Norse mythology). A Scandinavian folk belief that lightning frightens away trolls and jötnar appears in numerous Scandinavian folktales, and may be a late reflection of the god Thor's role in fighting such beings. Interesting, given this thread is about strobe flash. Last edited by Digitalis; 09-01-2013 at 12:32 AM.*

08-31-2013, 07:22 PM	#164
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	johnmflores - nice bike, here is one of mine: All done with wireless pentax flash too... since you cannot say anything positive about the pentax flash system, or the people who use it well in spite of your complaints: you are going to have a visit to my otherwise empty blocked list jonny1986. Last edited by Digitalis; 08-31-2013 at 07:32 PM.

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08-31-2013, 01:14 PM - 1 Like	#151
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	I'm gonna photobomb all the pissing contests in the forum. It's outta control

08-31-2013, 01:14 PM	#152
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by bxf Are you sure? The fact that there are counter-arguments to what he's saying would imply that "we don't get it". From my perspective, I think it's difficult to argue with the sentiment that these new Pentax flashes are still no match for some others, at a price that exceeds the (better) others. Sounds to me like reasonable grounds for disenchantment. and the most disappointment is tha the ratio group flash is probably easiy fixable with software not hardware related. in additicion considering pentax change flash evey 7 years, we won't see this feature before 2020.

08-31-2013, 01:22 PM	#153
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by johnmflores I'm gonna photobomb all the pissing contests in the forum. It's outta control +100 I love your bike man

08-31-2013, 01:29 PM	#154
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Well there you have it. Seems like there is no problem then. I bet you that you can find what you ask for and even more, good luck.! Originally posted by jonny1986 the bigger light the better....a led light so small is useless apart some macro of cheap grab video...a youngnuo led light cost 40 euro and is a much better solution. so good to have the led light but i would have preferred a new wireless system, a more powerful and fast flash than a led light that in practice is of tiny use.

08-31-2013, 01:49 PM	#155
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by bxf Are you sure? Yes we are.

08-31-2013, 01:50 PM	#156
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by monochrome Wow. Six Hidden messages in a row. That has GOT to be an all-time record. Funny, got the same number of hidden posts in a row. How's that?

08-31-2013, 02:56 PM	#157
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by bxf Hang on, I'll ask Digitalis Yeah, well then maybe. But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

08-31-2013, 03:17 PM	#158
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by monochrome But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size. +100 I believe this

08-31-2013, 03:32 PM	#159
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by dcshooter Actually, I was already in this thread BEFORE you came in to REPEATEDLY post the same complaint. Like I said, we heard all of your complaints the first time you levied them. the first time, and you are acting like a pompous jerk, belittling "typical Pentax users" as only taking pictures of bugs and flowers. You can't seem to get it through your skull that there are users out there for whom weather-sealing, LED, etc. might be useful because you don't understand that there are people with needs in a flash (and photographic system) other than your own. If you think another system fits your needs better, then by all means go purchase it. But as others have said, there are those here who would like to discuss things about these flashes other than how much they suck and about how overpriced they are without having even seen what the actual street prices are, what additional features there might be, or how well they handle in a real life shoot. And no one cares how much you have spent on Pentax gear if all you have to add to the conversation is condescension and tiresome, repetitive complaints. so i hope to see a review by you when you buy this flash..because you wlll buy it? street price? the problem is that you don't even know what you are talking about. bh have already listed the flash are pre order at the price listed in dpreview. the feature are already available in imaging resource pentax website. Pentax AF540FGZ II Flash for Pentax DSLR Cameras 30439 B&H Photo Pentax AF360FGZ II Flash for Pentax DSLR Cameras 30457 B&H Photo seems they are real price. Pentax finally has first place in something...most expensive by a large margin hot shoe flash in the market. 2013 price with 2000 technology, well done....anyway i wait for the review of these flash cause i'm sure you will pull the trigger at this price..

08-31-2013, 03:54 PM	#160
jpette Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 62	Originally posted by Kozlok The KX doesn't support an internal AF assist light, so I'm sure it's an insurmountable problem. The camera probably lacks the basic ability to send a request to the AF assist light since it's not in the hardware to start with. @Kozlok: Hello, why you said this ? For internal AF, It's true ( Kx has not Assis Led Include into K-x) BUT, when i connect my Fgz 360 v1, you select SB Mode in your Kx After you turn the selector go mode "Av" And after you push EDGE in the shutter button, and you see the big led Red lighting (and no the flash) and Af runs ok The average is 6 to 8Metres for this led red You must be in low light for see this of your eyes, try (in Firmware 1.03) And i waiting so the extended firmware update for K-x Best regards

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08-31-2013, 05:47 PM - 1 Like	#161
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Hot and heavy on this thread... time to sit on a cooler full of ICE and chill your balls down a bit, give your brain a chance to catch up. Just saying

08-31-2013, 06:02 PM	#162
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by monochrome Yeah, well then maybe. But Digitalis could have 50K worth of filters. In one thread size.

08-31-2013, 11:56 PM	#165
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Nice! By the way, did anyone notice the AF540FGZ II has the same MSRP as the EX600RT had at launch?