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Kunzite · 09-06-2013, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

We don't even know which manufacturer is making the prime II or Prime M? So why would Pentax use a Fujitsu chip en not one by any of the other ARM licensees?

That would be Fujitsu; PRIME II is a Milbeaut M5, according to Pentax hack info. Prime M could be a Fujitsu MB91696AM, as it supports H264 encoding.
I'd say the MB86S22AA is a good candidate.

mamethot · 09-06-2013, 06:18 AM

"30 percent lower power consumption and roughly twice the processing performance compared to the existing products..." as per Fujitsu.

That's more shots (or power available for wifi/3g/GPS applications) per battery charge.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-06-2013, 10:20 AM

Well an update for the PRIME II would be great, if it is superior to the PRIME M then the next toplevel aps-c camera can do some new tricks.

**monochrome** · 09-06-2013, 10:31 AM

Actually I think we do know the Prime M is Fujitsu-based - unfortunately it is considered very poor form here to link the source of that information.

Hint: A cereal grain that grows at high elevation.

Parallax · 09-06-2013, 10:40 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

Actually I think we do know the Prime M is Fujitsu-based - unfortunately it is considered very poor form here to link the source of that information.

Hint: A cereal grain that grows at high elevation.

(High enough, apparently, to cause hypoxic dementia.)

Kunzite · 09-06-2013, 11:11 AM

I have a better source (in fact I mentioned it before): Welcome to Pentax Hack
They actually worked on decrypting and disassembling Pentax firmware.

D1N0 · 09-06-2013, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I have a better source (in fact I mentioned it before): Welcome to Pentax Hack
They actually worked on decrypting and disassembling Pentax firmware.

I only see info up to the k-7 on that site. Last Blogposting is from april 2010.

Kunzite · 09-06-2013, 12:11 PM

K-7, K-5, K-5 II(s) and the 645D share the Prime II processor.

MouLaG Ôfr · 09-09-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Ayoh

New upcoming Pentax flagship will surely use this chip:

FUJITSU LIMITED : Fujitsu Releases New Milbeaut

24MP @ 12 FPS

The Gen 6 processor is used in the k-5 and Nikon d7000/7100. The Gen 6 can only accommodate 24MP @ 5 FPS (hence the D7100 being crippled with a 2X crop mode at higher frame rates)

The specs otherwise seem a bit conservative, especially compared to Sony and Panasonic who have been doing 1080p 60p for a few years now.

And an image from this chip (image Fujitsu)

jogiba · 09-09-2013, 05:45 PM

Are the K-3 rumors facing a 'Groundhog Day' scenario ?
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198519-so-what-happened-k-3-a.html

Winder · 09-09-2013, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Are the K-3 rumors facing a 'Groundhog Day' scenario ?
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198519-so-what-happened-k-3-a.html

K-3 rumors started before Ricoh ever bought Pentax. Work on the K-5 successor had to have started as soon as the original K-5 was released. My guess is that Ricoh put the brakes on the project and we got the K-5II.

Will Pentax keep the K-5 line going with a K-5III and bring out a higher spec'ed K-3?

ricardoruca · 09-09-2013, 11:22 PM - **1 Like**

Hi everybody!
In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact.
For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014.

Best regards

**Rorschach** · 09-09-2013, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by ricardoruca

Hi everybody!
In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact.
For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014.

Best regards

This is interesting if true. What is your source?

I will wait for the specs on the K3 before deciding between it and a K5iis (keeping one base K5 as a second body anyways).

MouLaG Ôfr · 09-09-2013, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by ricardoruca

Hi everybody!
In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact.
For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014.

Hi, for you it's a fact. Do you have some official informations ?
So, it would be kind of you to share it.

People are waiting and hoping to hear something serious, not this kind of fake "informations".

SyncGuy · 09-09-2013, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by ricardoruca

Hi everybody!
In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact.
For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014.

Best regards

Erm... Clarifications in some of the points:

1) Announcement don't mean s**t until the actual product is shown, especially coming from Pentax. (they can announce 1 gigapixel sensor, no one cares until it materializes)

2) More AF point with dinner plate sized AF area is still retarded

3) I believe you have it wrong here... Coming from Pentax or Ricoh or whatever related to Pentax, they mean year 2041 or it could actually mean you'll have to wait another 2014 years for it to come.

Summarily, just shoot with whatever you have and/or can afford. Be it crop, m4/3, FF or MF.

If you really want FF, it's here already but they have another name for it, Canon/Nikon or CaNikon in short.

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09-06-2013, 05:06 AM	#61
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by D1N0 We don't even know which manufacturer is making the prime II or Prime M? So why would Pentax use a Fujitsu chip en not one by any of the other ARM licensees? That would be Fujitsu; PRIME II is a Milbeaut M5, according to Pentax hack info. Prime M could be a Fujitsu MB91696AM, as it supports H264 encoding. I'd say the MB86S22AA is a good candidate.

09-06-2013, 06:18 AM	#62
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	"30 percent lower power consumption and roughly twice the processing performance compared to the existing products..." as per Fujitsu. That's more shots (or power available for wifi/3g/GPS applications) per battery charge.

09-06-2013, 10:20 AM	#63
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Well an update for the PRIME II would be great, if it is superior to the PRIME M then the next toplevel aps-c camera can do some new tricks.

09-06-2013, 10:31 AM	#64
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Actually I think we do know the Prime M is Fujitsu-based - unfortunately it is considered very poor form here to link the source of that information. Hint: A cereal grain that grows at high elevation.

09-06-2013, 10:40 AM - 1 Like	#65
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by monochrome Actually I think we do know the Prime M is Fujitsu-based - unfortunately it is considered very poor form here to link the source of that information. Hint: A cereal grain that grows at high elevation. (High enough, apparently, to cause hypoxic dementia.)

09-06-2013, 11:11 AM	#66
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I have a better source (in fact I mentioned it before): Welcome to Pentax Hack They actually worked on decrypting and disassembling Pentax firmware.

09-06-2013, 11:46 AM	#67
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Originally posted by Kunzite I have a better source (in fact I mentioned it before): Welcome to Pentax Hack They actually worked on decrypting and disassembling Pentax firmware. I only see info up to the k-7 on that site. Last Blogposting is from april 2010.

09-06-2013, 12:11 PM	#68
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	K-7, K-5, K-5 II(s) and the 645D share the Prime II processor.

09-09-2013, 01:37 PM	#69
MouLaG Ôfr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brussels Posts: 103	Originally posted by Ayoh New upcoming Pentax flagship will surely use this chip: FUJITSU LIMITED : Fujitsu Releases New Milbeaut 24MP @ 12 FPS The Gen 6 processor is used in the k-5 and Nikon d7000/7100. The Gen 6 can only accommodate 24MP @ 5 FPS (hence the D7100 being crippled with a 2X crop mode at higher frame rates) The specs otherwise seem a bit conservative, especially compared to Sony and Panasonic who have been doing 1080p 60p for a few years now. And an image from this chip (image Fujitsu)

09-09-2013, 05:45 PM	#70
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Are the K-3 rumors facing a 'Groundhog Day' scenario ? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198519-so-what-happened-k-3-a.html

09-09-2013, 08:12 PM	#71
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by jogiba Are the K-3 rumors facing a 'Groundhog Day' scenario ? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/198519-so-what-happened-k-3-a.html K-3 rumors started before Ricoh ever bought Pentax. Work on the K-5 successor had to have started as soon as the original K-5 was released. My guess is that Ricoh put the brakes on the project and we got the K-5II. Will Pentax keep the K-5 line going with a K-5III and bring out a higher spec'ed K-3?

09-09-2013, 11:22 PM - 1 Like	#72
ricardoruca Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 64	Hi everybody! In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact. For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014. Best regards

09-09-2013, 11:34 PM	#73
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Originally posted by ricardoruca Hi everybody! In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact. For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014. Best regards This is interesting if true. What is your source? I will wait for the specs on the K3 before deciding between it and a K5iis (keeping one base K5 as a second body anyways).

09-09-2013, 11:36 PM	#74
MouLaG Ôfr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brussels Posts: 103	Originally posted by ricardoruca Hi everybody! In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact. For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014. Hi, for you it's a fact. Do you have some official informations ? So, it would be kind of you to share it. People are waiting and hoping to hear something serious, not this kind of fake "informations".

09-09-2013, 11:37 PM	#75
SyncGuy Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 821	Originally posted by ricardoruca Hi everybody! In one month the k3 24 Mpx will be announced. New AF with more focusing points. It's a fact. For all you need a Full Frame camera, you'll have to wait to mid 2014. Best regards Erm... Clarifications in some of the points: 1) Announcement don't mean s**t until the actual product is shown, especially coming from Pentax. (they can announce 1 gigapixel sensor, no one cares until it materializes) 2) More AF point with dinner plate sized AF area is still retarded 3) I believe you have it wrong here... Coming from Pentax or Ricoh or whatever related to Pentax, they mean year 2041 or it could actually mean you'll have to wait another 2014 years for it to come. Summarily, just shoot with whatever you have and/or can afford. Be it crop, m4/3, FF or MF. If you really want FF, it's here already but they have another name for it, Canon/Nikon or CaNikon in short.

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