da 18-70 f/2.8

Kunzite · 09-24-2013, 01:55 AM

I like the red one better...

Caat · 09-24-2013, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I like the red one better...

I prefer the red one as well - it works better with black and silver colours than green

Kunzite · 09-24-2013, 02:04 AM

Precisely; and having seen it on the D FA645 90mm and the HD DA 560mm, it's actually a nice shade of red - dark, metallic.

fsge · 09-25-2013, 06:37 AM

Why do we speak about a 18-70 here? I thought it was going to be a 16-85 f2.8 as DA* label was suggesting first but then a DA 16-85 f3.5 or f2.8-4 sounds more realistic after roadmap changes
I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70 ...

bobell69 · 09-25-2013, 06:48 AM

I would like to see it wider at the short end, to 16 mm, then it would be a nice replacement to the now discontinued 16-45

lytrytyr · 09-25-2013, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by fsge

I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70.

It's what it would *not* bring that would make it attractive
to those of us who are wary of the early-design in-lens motors.

**woodywesty** · 09-25-2013, 07:29 AM

"I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70" ...

From PentaxForums.com: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/237677-da-18-70-f-2-8-...#ixzz2ful6ICT8

I don't know about "nicely reviewed"... here's the recommendation from our own review and comparison of the 18-70..

"Because of the Pentax lens’s hunting problems, we feel the Sigma lenses are a better choice. It must be stressed that we have tested only one sample of the Pentax lens, and it is possible that we have been given an imperfect lens. Nonetheless, we feel the Sigmas' more varied perks still make them better “walk-around” lenses, capable of facing a larger range of shooting situations."

More Pentax news at: Pentax 17-70mm Lens Comparison - Introduction - PentaxForums.com

I really want to buy a Pentax lens but when our own list recommends another brand I need to stop and think about it.

Alizarine · 09-25-2013, 07:22 PM

as far as this lens is concerned (16/18 to 70/80 range), it most probably won't be a constant 2.8, or maybe not even WR for that matter... (because the 18-135 is already there for that purpose)

cali92rs · 09-25-2013, 07:57 PM

I really hope it starts at 16mm, those 2mm mean a lot to me

zeitlos · 09-26-2013, 12:49 PM

To me, too. But no, it won't start at 16mm...

audiobomber · 09-26-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by fsge

Why do we speak about a 18-70 here? I thought it was going to be a 16-85 f2.8 as DA* label was suggesting first

In your wildest dreams. It was never going to be 16-85 f2.8. That lens would be too large and expensive to ever exist.

It is disappointing that it is downgraded to DA though, whatever it turns out to be.

**Pål Jensen** · 09-30-2013, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by audiobomber

It is disappointing that it is downgraded to DA though, whatever it turns out to be.

I think they just dropped the * naming and replacing it with HD. Remember the 560mm was also a DA non-star lens on the roadmap. I'm sure it would have been labeled DA* if it had been released, say, five years ago...

fsge · 10-01-2013, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

I think they just dropped the * naming and replacing it with HD. Remember the 560mm was also a DA non-star lens on the roadmap. I'm sure it would have been labeled DA* if it had been released, say, five years ago...

That could be a DA HD indeed, maybe unveiled as kit lens at the same time as this upcoming K3 ...

**woodywesty** · 10-06-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by fsge

That could be a DA HD indeed, maybe unveiled as kit lens at the same time as this upcoming K3 ...

I sure hope that the just leaked 55-300mm lens isn't a replacement for the hoped for 25-70mm (or whatever the roadmap is hinting at), lens. The revised 50-300mm lens has a place but it isn't a new walk around higher quality zoom.

liukaitc · 10-06-2013, 10:24 AM

I would think it will cost around 800.

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09-24-2013, 01:55 AM	#46
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I like the red one better...

09-24-2013, 01:59 AM	#47
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Kunzite I like the red one better... I prefer the red one as well - it works better with black and silver colours than green

09-24-2013, 02:04 AM	#48
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Precisely; and having seen it on the D FA645 90mm and the HD DA 560mm, it's actually a nice shade of red - dark, metallic.

09-25-2013, 06:37 AM	#49
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Why do we speak about a 18-70 here? I thought it was going to be a 16-85 f2.8 as DA* label was suggesting first but then a DA 16-85 f3.5 or f2.8-4 sounds more realistic after roadmap changes I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70 ...

09-25-2013, 06:48 AM	#50
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	I would like to see it wider at the short end, to 16 mm, then it would be a nice replacement to the now discontinued 16-45

09-25-2013, 06:54 AM	#51
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by fsge I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70. It's what it would not bring that would make it attractive to those of us who are wary of the early-design in-lens motors.

09-25-2013, 07:29 AM	#52
woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	"I do not really see what a 18-70 would bring on top of existing and nicely reviewed DA 17-70" ... From PentaxForums.com: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/237677-da-18-70-f-2-8-...#ixzz2ful6ICT8 I don't know about "nicely reviewed"... here's the recommendation from our own review and comparison of the 18-70.. "Because of the Pentax lens’s hunting problems, we feel the Sigma lenses are a better choice. It must be stressed that we have tested only one sample of the Pentax lens, and it is possible that we have been given an imperfect lens. Nonetheless, we feel the Sigmas' more varied perks still make them better “walk-around” lenses, capable of facing a larger range of shooting situations." More Pentax news at: Pentax 17-70mm Lens Comparison - Introduction - PentaxForums.com I really want to buy a Pentax lens but when our own list recommends another brand I need to stop and think about it.

09-25-2013, 07:22 PM	#53
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	as far as this lens is concerned (16/18 to 70/80 range), it most probably won't be a constant 2.8, or maybe not even WR for that matter... (because the 18-135 is already there for that purpose)

09-25-2013, 07:57 PM	#54
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	I really hope it starts at 16mm, those 2mm mean a lot to me

09-26-2013, 12:49 PM	#55
zeitlos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the middle of Bavaria - Germany Posts: 282	To me, too. But no, it won't start at 16mm...

09-26-2013, 01:35 PM	#56
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by fsge Why do we speak about a 18-70 here? I thought it was going to be a 16-85 f2.8 as DA* label was suggesting first In your wildest dreams. It was never going to be 16-85 f2.8. That lens would be too large and expensive to ever exist. It is disappointing that it is downgraded to DA though, whatever it turns out to be.

09-30-2013, 06:29 PM	#57
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by audiobomber It is disappointing that it is downgraded to DA though, whatever it turns out to be. I think they just dropped the * naming and replacing it with HD. Remember the 560mm was also a DA non-star lens on the roadmap. I'm sure it would have been labeled DA* if it had been released, say, five years ago...

10-01-2013, 07:06 AM	#58
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by Pål Jensen I think they just dropped the * naming and replacing it with HD. Remember the 560mm was also a DA non-star lens on the roadmap. I'm sure it would have been labeled DA* if it had been released, say, five years ago... That could be a DA HD indeed, maybe unveiled as kit lens at the same time as this upcoming K3 ...

10-06-2013, 08:59 AM	#59
woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	Originally posted by fsge That could be a DA HD indeed, maybe unveiled as kit lens at the same time as this upcoming K3 ... I sure hope that the just leaked 55-300mm lens isn't a replacement for the hoped for 25-70mm (or whatever the roadmap is hinting at), lens. The revised 50-300mm lens has a place but it isn't a new walk around higher quality zoom.

10-06-2013, 10:24 AM	#60
liukaitc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,008	I would think it will cost around 800.