K-3 Specs leaked - 24MP APS-C

Vylen · 09-24-2013, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by Merts

Fair point.
It would have to be a weakness as far as potential damage and water ingress go though?

Of course - any moving part is inherently weak, but, this is where smart engineering can at least mitigate potential failure.

Adam · 09-24-2013, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Merts

Fair point.
It would have to be a weakness as far as potential damage and water ingress go though?

Probably, as I don't believe any weather-sealed camera has an articulating screen.

Caat · 09-24-2013, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Merts

Fair point.
It would have to be a weakness as far as potential damage and water ingress go though?

Theoretically yes but Olympus E-3 and E-5 both had swivel screens and full weather-sealing which apparently worked very well.

Obviously any part of a camera that sticks out could be accidentally knocked and therefore damaged but then you could as easily knock the whole camera onto the floor.

bhairavp · 09-24-2013, 01:08 AM

The Olympus OM-D series are weather sealed and have an articulating screen.

Caat · 09-24-2013, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Probably, as I don't believe any weather-sealed camera has an articulating screen.

Several of Olympus's cameras have

MouLaG Ôfr · 09-24-2013, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Caat

Several of Olympus's cameras have

Yes indeed and for years !
OM-D but also Olympus E-3 and E-5 and the WR is certainly as good if not beter than the Pentax's one.

Uluru · 09-24-2013, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

How does this stack up against your previous unicorn predictions?

Hmm, I risked, and first revealed the upcoming 18-70/2.8 lens. Now that lens has been confirmed from several sources weeks after.

That lens is realistic feat, and somewhat confirmed with an official roadmap. Realistic is also K-3 in described / leaked / rumoured specs.

However, things like the all new A-mount, and quirky, SF solutions that suddenly enable Pentax to leapfrog competition, well, those are unicorns.

Uluru · 09-24-2013, 01:57 AM

Re tilting screen; I expect a mid-range camera, in between K-3 and K-50, to come with a tilting screen. Keeping the K-3 well rugged, pro-level, robust, no-nonsense APS-C flagship (packed with power and still kept at the smallest size possible) is important, and other bodies slimmer in profile and lighter in weight can host a tilting LCD — for those who like that.

Clavius · 09-24-2013, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

Re tilting screen; I expect a mid-range camera, in between K-3 and K-50, to come with a tilting screen. Keeping the K-3 well rugged, pro-level, robust, no-nonsense APS-C flagship (packed with power and still kept at the smallest size possible) is important, and other bodies slimmer in profile and lighter in weight can host a tilting LCD — for those who like that.

Wouldn't a body with a tilting / articulating screen require a much higher level of WR then one with a static screen? And couldn't that be the reason for the ridiclous pricing of some of the Olympus bodies? I never missed such a screen on Pentax anyway.

Barry Pearson · 09-24-2013, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Probably, as I don't believe any weather-sealed camera has an articulating screen.

But Ricoh/Pentax have launched WR flashguns with articulated and rotating heads!

Uluru · 09-24-2013, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Wouldn't a body with a tilting / articulating screen require a much higher level of WR then one with a static screen? And couldn't that be the reason for the ridiclous pricing of some of the Olympus bodies? I never missed such a screen on Pentax anyway.

That's hard to say. The above conclusion of mine — that we'll probably see tilting scree in a smaller body — is based on words of Kawauchi san and Wakashiro san, from the CP+ 2013 interview.

Clavius · 09-24-2013, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

But Ricoh/Pentax have launched WR flashguns with articulated and rotating heads!

Correct... And look at their prices and the prices of other flashes from other manufacturers with the same guide numbers. There's a BIG difference.

Clavius · 09-24-2013, 03:27 AM

I think there is more future in wireless communication / tethering between devices. Just a little bit of innovation and the user would be able to just download a Pentax app to their phone, tablet or laptop and use THAT as a screen. No need for tilting / articulating screens that push the limits of WR and pricing.

Mistral75 · 09-24-2013, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

I think there is more future in wireless communication / tethering between devices. Just a little bit of innovation and the user would be able to just download a Pentax app to their phone, tablet or laptop and use THAT as a screen. No need for tilting / articulating screens that push the limits of WR and pricing.

Like the Sony QX-10 and QX-100?

RobG · 09-24-2013, 03:57 AM

FWIW, a rumour on a Japanese site:
?????? K-3 (K-5???) ????????????????????

and translation thanks to google:

Definitive almost DSLR successor to the K-5 in the K-3 is announced
Rather than the 35mm full size sensor, the sensor is equipped with an APS-C sensor
Moveable LCD monitor is adopted, body size is slightly larger
Details of sensors would guess, but it is going to be a sensor of 20 million pixels or more Sony-less low-pass specification
1.0 times magnification with 100% field of view viewfinder
In the announcement soon, to be released at the end of October
Body alone is about 120,000 yen
Color (released by Silver later?) Only black
New lens to expand in the future, shift to HD coating from the SP coating

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Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by Merts Fair point. It would have to be a weakness as far as potential damage and water ingress go though? Of course - any moving part is inherently weak, but, this is where smart engineering can at least mitigate potential failure.

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Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Merts Fair point. It would have to be a weakness as far as potential damage and water ingress go though? Theoretically yes but Olympus E-3 and E-5 both had swivel screens and full weather-sealing which apparently worked very well. Obviously any part of a camera that sticks out could be accidentally knocked and therefore damaged but then you could as easily knock the whole camera onto the floor.

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bhairavp Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 399	The Olympus OM-D series are weather sealed and have an articulating screen.

09-24-2013, 01:11 AM	#95
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by Adam Probably, as I don't believe any weather-sealed camera has an articulating screen. Several of Olympus's cameras have

09-24-2013, 01:18 AM	#96
MouLaG Ôfr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brussels Posts: 103	Originally posted by Caat Several of Olympus's cameras have Yes indeed and for years ! OM-D but also Olympus E-3 and E-5 and the WR is certainly as good if not beter than the Pentax's one.

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by RobA_Oz How does this stack up against your previous unicorn predictions? Hmm, I risked, and first revealed the upcoming 18-70/2.8 lens. Now that lens has been confirmed from several sources weeks after. That lens is realistic feat, and somewhat confirmed with an official roadmap. Realistic is also K-3 in described / leaked / rumoured specs. However, things like the all new A-mount, and quirky, SF solutions that suddenly enable Pentax to leapfrog competition, well, those are unicorns.

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Re tilting screen; I expect a mid-range camera, in between K-3 and K-50, to come with a tilting screen. Keeping the K-3 well rugged, pro-level, robust, no-nonsense APS-C flagship (packed with power and still kept at the smallest size possible) is important, and other bodies slimmer in profile and lighter in weight can host a tilting LCD — for those who like that.

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Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Uluru Re tilting screen; I expect a mid-range camera, in between K-3 and K-50, to come with a tilting screen. Keeping the K-3 well rugged, pro-level, robust, no-nonsense APS-C flagship (packed with power and still kept at the smallest size possible) is important, and other bodies slimmer in profile and lighter in weight can host a tilting LCD — for those who like that. Wouldn't a body with a tilting / articulating screen require a much higher level of WR then one with a static screen? And couldn't that be the reason for the ridiclous pricing of some of the Olympus bodies? I never missed such a screen on Pentax anyway.

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Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Adam Probably, as I don't believe any weather-sealed camera has an articulating screen. But Ricoh/Pentax have launched WR flashguns with articulated and rotating heads!

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Clavius Wouldn't a body with a tilting / articulating screen require a much higher level of WR then one with a static screen? And couldn't that be the reason for the ridiclous pricing of some of the Olympus bodies? I never missed such a screen on Pentax anyway. That's hard to say. The above conclusion of mine — that we'll probably see tilting scree in a smaller body — is based on words of Kawauchi san and Wakashiro san, from the CP+ 2013 interview.

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09-24-2013, 02:57 AM	#102
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Barry Pearson But Ricoh/Pentax have launched WR flashguns with articulated and rotating heads! Correct... And look at their prices and the prices of other flashes from other manufacturers with the same guide numbers. There's a BIG difference.

09-24-2013, 03:27 AM	#103
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	I think there is more future in wireless communication / tethering between devices. Just a little bit of innovation and the user would be able to just download a Pentax app to their phone, tablet or laptop and use THAT as a screen. No need for tilting / articulating screens that push the limits of WR and pricing.

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,526	Originally posted by Clavius I think there is more future in wireless communication / tethering between devices. Just a little bit of innovation and the user would be able to just download a Pentax app to their phone, tablet or laptop and use THAT as a screen. No need for tilting / articulating screens that push the limits of WR and pricing. Like the Sony QX-10 and QX-100?