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10-01-2013, 04:45 PM   #271
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
A more apt comparison:
Compare camera dimensions side by side

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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
Well, you guys must be way more sensitive than me when it comes to size/weight. I put practically all DSLRs in one bucket. It doesn't matter to me if one is 10-20% larger/smaller in volume or weight than another. I place higher priority on camera responsiveness (eg no shutter lag) than to touchy-feely things. Different strokes, different folks and all...
Of course one person uses a different set of criteria than another person for deciding which camera they like the best. Because people are like that. If we weren't like that, we would all drive Camrys (shudder) and eat Big Macs (shudder).

While the linear dimension differences between a K-5 and a D600 are not huge, the D600 is about 40% larger in volume than the K-5. You don't carry just the length, depth, or height of your camera on a hike, all 3 dimensions have to fit in your backpack. The 40% difference is significant. Consider also that for typical K-5 / D600 lenses, the camera/lens volume difference is even larger.

Would the difference be enough to diswade me from using a D600 over a K-5? I don't know; I don't have either one, But I'm willing to do the test if anyone wants to donate.
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Promises, promises K3 24mp New tracking AF

The Camry is a no frills car that gets the job done. Pentax cameras don't have the frills, but above what Camrys do for motoring, Pentax offers the photographer ease of use of advanced features with ergonomics that are second to none, whether heavy (K-5) or light (K-r). That is also important, and is noticed more when going from a Pentax dSLR to a beast like the D800 or 5D, both of which are great cameras, but have UI nuances that frustrate me.
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The Camry is a no frills car that gets the job done. Pentax cameras don't have the frills, but above what Camrys do for motoring, Pentax offers the photographer ease of use of advanced features with ergonomics that are second to none, whether heavy (K-5) or light (K-r). That is also important, and is noticed more when going from a Pentax dSLR to a beast like the D800 or 5D, both of which are great cameras, but have UI nuances that frustrate me.
sounds more like a Volkswagen.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ash Quote
The Camry is a no frills car that gets the job done. Pentax cameras don't have the frills, but above what Camrys do for motoring, Pentax offers the photographer ease of use of advanced features with ergonomics that are second to none, whether heavy (K-5) or light (K-r). That is also important, and is noticed more when going from a Pentax dSLR to a beast like the D800 or 5D, both of which are great cameras, but have UI nuances that frustrate me.
I used to own an Echo, a Camry seemed like a luxury car.
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By the camera size comparison site, I was interested to see the comparison between the K-5 (APS-C dSLR) and Sony a77 (APS-C translucent mirror):
Pentax K-5 IIs is 8% (11.6 mm) narrower and 7% (7 mm) shorter than Sony SLT-A77.
Pentax K-5 IIs is 10% (8.4 mm) thinner than Sony SLT-A77.
Pentax K-5 IIs [760 g] weights 4% (28 grams) more than Sony SLT-A77 [732 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).

Pentax K-5 IIs dimensions: 131x97x72.5 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion)
Sony SLT-A77 dimensions: 142.6x104x80.9 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion)

I can understand the big differences in their FF line (the a99 is bulkier but not much weightier than the K-5), but why Sony couldn't make their APS-Cs less weighty and less bulky is beyond me...
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I used to own an Echo, a Camry seemed like a luxury car.

Must be thinking of this rather than this
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less weighty and less bulky is beyond me...
I think it's a status thing. "look at my giant professional camera." Probably cheaper to engineer too.

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QuoteOriginally posted by cfraz Quote
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While the linear dimension differences between a K-5 and a D600 are not huge, the D600 is about 40% larger in volume than the K-5. You don't carry just the length, depth, or height of your camera on a hike, all 3 dimensions have to fit in your backpack. The 40% difference is significant. Consider also that for typical K-5 / D600 lenses, the camera/lens volume difference is even larger.
I owned a D600 for a while before upgrading it to a D800. I have a K-7. That 40% in volume difference may sound large but, again, it was all the same size to me. I come from a time of hauling a Pentax 6x7 up Mount Rainier and on week-long backpacking trips in the wilderness. All DSLRs are a piece of cake after that.

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I think it's a status thing. "look at my giant professional camera." Probably cheaper to engineer too.
When I saw a D800 on a store shelf, beside all the other Nikon, the Pentax, Canon and Oly stuff, I got the impression that it was designed to say 'mine is bigger than yours'.
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Saw a guy (amateur) at an event last weekend (1500 people) hauling around a d800, 24~120 and a Stroboframe/Speedlight from 5:00pm Friday to 5:00pm Saturday. He said he made 5000 clicks, batch-processed and speed-selected 400 for a 30 minute slide show at 9:00pm.

Kinda thought that was overkill.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
I owned a D600 for a while before upgrading it to a D800. I have a K-7. That 40% in volume difference may sound large but, again, it was all the same size to me. It is picking the fly sh*t out of the pepper from my perspective. I come from a time of hauling a Pentax 6x7 up Mount Rainier and on week-long backpacking trips in the wilderness. All DSLRs are a piece of cake after that.
Yep, it's all about perspective, and I'd say yours is a lot broader than mine. To someone who's come from Olympus and Pentax film SLR's, and now a K200D, the 600D looks like a *big* camera.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
I owned a D600 for a while before upgrading it to a D800. I have a K-7. That 40% in volume difference may sound large but, again, it was all the same size to me. It is picking the fly sh*t out of the pepper from my perspective. I come from a time of hauling a Pentax 6x7 up Mount Rainier and on week-long backpacking trips in the wilderness. All DSLRs are a piece of cake after that.
Yikes. I thought the D7000/D7100 and 60D were way too much. The K-5 is already a tad too heavy. I sometimes walk around all day with all my camera gear hanging on one shoulder (backpacks are better, but accessing them is hard, and I don't feel comfortable having the access to my gear where I can't see it), so it needs to be small and light. I once borrowed some small Sony, and it was a joy to use. Image quality wasn't good, and whoever thought exposure rows should be in 0.3EV steps should be shot, but other than that had fun with it. The lack of weight (while feeling solid) is nice. It is nimble.
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Yikes. I thought the D7000/D7100 and 60D were way too much. The K-5 is already a tad too heavy.
I have a mirrorless too. When I want it light-n-easy or don't need the speed or resolution of the DSLR, I shoot it instead which is to say easily over 50% of my digital shooting time. I like adapting my Super Taks to it on occasion. I also still try to devote some of my available shooting time to BW film on my medium format cameras.
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I have taken my Contax 645 on several multi-day backpacking trips. If you stick with LTD glass you can save some weight, but I really don't think the size is that much of an issue. I sent the day with an A99 a few weeks ago, and I actually liked it a lot. The taller grip allowed me to get ALL of my fingers on it with out the accessory grip.

I would like to see Pentax release a taller FF body with a VF like the A900.
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