Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
10-02-2013, 08:23 AM   #301
Veteran Member




Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Greater Montreal Area
Posts: 736
QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
I am in the market to buy a good quality, but economical car.
Since this seems to be the right place to ask, do you people have a fair idea of the cost of a automatic, four doors, electrical group K3 ?

JP
The K-3 Prius, hybrid?

I wonder if they will ever come with a mirrorless car? ;-)

10-02-2013, 08:43 AM   #302
Emperor and Senpai
Loyal Site Supporter
VoiceOfReason's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mishawaka IN area
Photos: Albums
Posts: 6,124
Seems like all you people have much mroe expensive cars than my lowly Chevrolet HHR, but hey, my K5, K-01, tripods, and lenses barely take up any room in it!
10-02-2013, 08:47 AM   #303
Senior Member




Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Newcastle, AU!
Posts: 276
Having a '67 Holden means I had to get a Pentax 67 eventually. My rugged, weather proof, ready for anything k30 gets paired with!....an Astra
10-02-2013, 08:47 AM   #304
Pentaxian
Zygonyx's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ile de France
Posts: 4,032
It seems American Dream is adressing more cars, than photography systems ...

10-02-2013, 09:17 AM   #305
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Working From Home
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 26,276
How do I square a Subaru Outback, a Honda Accord and a Club Car (golf cart) with my Pentax outfit?
10-02-2013, 10:34 AM   #306
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area)
Posts: 1,519
I think Subaru and Pentax go together like chocolate & hazelnuts, pizza & beer, Martin & Lewis, ...

Never mind, scratch that last one. Jerry Lewis is terrible.
10-02-2013, 10:36 AM   #307
Veteran Member
konraDarnok's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2007
Photos: Albums
Posts: 969
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How do I square a Subaru Outback, a Honda Accord and a Club Car (golf cart) with my Pentax outfit?
K-01 shoots squares.

10-02-2013, 11:01 AM   #308
Veteran Member
TenZ.NL's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Below sealevel
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 1,100
QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
I am in the market to buy a good quality, but economical car.
Since this seems to be the right place to ask, do you people have a fair idea of the cost of a automatic, four doors, electrical group K3 ?

JP
I used to have an Audi S3 but that was far from economical. Real good quality car, even petrol-usage was oke but it was all those fines for speeding that killed my wallet...
10-02-2013, 11:35 AM   #309
Pentaxian
redrockcoulee's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Medicine Hat
Posts: 2,306
QuoteOriginally posted by mamethot Quote
The K-3 Prius, hybrid?

I wonder if they will ever come with a mirrorless car? ;-)
Most cars built today are mirrorless as well they come without signal lights
10-02-2013, 12:25 PM   #310
Veteran Member




Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Greater Montreal Area
Posts: 736
QuoteOriginally posted by redrockcoulee Quote
Most cars built today are mirrorless as well they come without signal lights
Oh I thought it was new drivers that now come without good manners ;-)
10-02-2013, 12:29 PM   #311
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
troenaas's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Norway
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 668
Caravelle 187S

Since this thread has drifted from cameras to cars, why not discuss boats?
10-02-2013, 12:30 PM   #312
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Working From Home
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 26,276
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
How do I square a Subaru Outback, a Honda Accord and a Club Car (golf cart) with my Pentax outfit?
QuoteOriginally posted by konraDarnok Quote
K-01 shoots squares.
I fear the day I brick it with a failed Firware update.
10-02-2013, 12:53 PM - 1 Like   #313
Senior Member




Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lévis, Canada (Québec)
Posts: 144
Here's my two cents on the K-3 AF system rumor. BTW, I don't care about the K-3 being APS-C or FF, or being 16, 20 or 24 Mpix.

As long as the AF tracking can finally match that of a Nikon or Canon DSLR with similar price, I'll be fine. The possible, rumored new 36-point AF system seen on RiceHigh (yeah, I know, it's RH, so anything coming from there has to be taken with a grain of salt, but I'm sure Ricoh wants to improve this as much as we do) could give us just that: quicker AF-S and much more accurate AF-C with more options on where you want to focus, and with accurate, dynamic AFpoint-to-AFpoint tracking on top of that!

Add in an improved flash system with a much more accurate metering and a faster X-sync speed (1/180th can cause problem with freezing a moving subject when shooting in ambient light, so moving to 1/250th of a second would be meaningful improvement for me), and I'll be more than satisfied.

All this will be great news, provided it works as advertised, which has been Pentax's main issue in the past. I'm tired of the "workaround" solutions to Pentax's mirror slap issues on the K-7 (so many shots lost because of this), poor AF-C tracking and AF-S back focusing, and inaccurate flash metering when using the flash in a bounced position. They're just lame excuses to justify why the camera is not doing its job as it should.

I used the D300, D700, D800, D3X, D3, EOS 7D, EOS 5D Mk II and EOS 5D Mk III on various pro shootings (as a 2nd photographer, you have to use the material the 1st photog wants you to use, so the workflow stays the same). And with the exception of the lame AF on the 5D II when not using the center AF point, all these cameras worked as advertised, without the need for a "workaround solution". Nikon's recent troubles with the D600 (and pretty much its denial of the problem) has proven Pentax is not the only one to suffer from such problems. Nikon's "solution" to the D600 was to have the sensor cleaned, which doesn't solve the problem, as the dust and oil come from within the camera (the mirror box, actually), not outside.

So far, only Canon has always acknowledge such issues and worked to solve them. The only time they dropped the ball was with the 1D Mk III, and they learned their lesson from this (the hard way, for people switched to Nikon and its D3 mainly because of the AF issues with the 1D3).

Canon may not be very innovative (they're actually very conservative), but they understand how important recalling faulty products is for their business. Nikon used to think like that, but now, they will release some SB-910s instead of replacing or recalling faulty SB-900s. Seems the D600 will have a successor, the D610, which will "solve" the issue of dust on the sensor. You just need to buy a $2000 DSLR. Go tell that to the guys who paid the same amount of money for their D600 cameras, LoL. Yet they were able to recall the D800 DSLRs which had fault AF points to correct the problem. Hopefully, Ricoh will act more like Canon and less like Nikon (or the old Pentax) when such issues are discovered. I'm sure Ricoh wants to be taken seriously, and they will if they do their homeworks.

In the past, the only thing that kept me from moving to another brand were financial issues (I had to sell the D700 and 16-35mm F/4 I had bought to cover for major house repairs which wouldn't be covered by the insurance, as they still had some good value, something my old K-7 didn't).

Since then, I have been more into teaching photography then making shootings for a living, so the switch wasn't as important as it was before, especially since I bought an used K-5 for $500 (so much DR and so much improvement over the K-7 in low light).

But if the K-3 lives up to the expectations, I can frankly say I won't have any reason left to switch, and I'll stay with Pentax for good. If they don't come up with an AF system that can at least stand the comparison with Canon (fast, accurate) and Nikon (best tracking ever), I'll have to reconsider again, depending on how I'm making my living as a photographer (mainly teaching or shooting?)

But to be honest, I'd be more happy to see a fast (F/4 or F/2.8) DA* or WR ultra-wide lens announced.

Right now, we can only choose between the overpriced DA*16-50mm (overpriced regarding its optical quality, not its build quality), the good but slow (F/3.5-5.6) 18-55mm WR and the convenient but average and slow 18-135mm WR. None of these lenses are ultra-wides anyway, so it leaves me with few options when shooting wide in harsh weather: stick to the DA*50-135mm or use an ultra-wide lens with a plastic cover on the camera, which collects humidity that eventually can make it into the camera through the lens...

I want a DA12-24mm F/4 WR much more than I want a new K-3, I have to say.

Last edited by tigrebleu; 10-02-2013 at 01:04 PM.
10-02-2013, 12:58 PM   #314
Pentaxian
g026r's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 2,074
QuoteOriginally posted by troenaas Quote
Since this thread has drifted from cameras to cars, why not discuss boats?
Why limit ourselves? Let's discuss screw-drive vehicles, so we can cover both land and water.
10-02-2013, 01:05 PM   #315
Pentaxian
normhead's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Near Algonquin Park
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 40,442
Even for me, the AF thing is huge... I have many great landscapes and macros, I really have to concentrate on wildlife. Currently, partly because I grew up with MF lenses, I find MF more useful than AF for wildlife.. I would really like that to change. It's not true for the guys shooting Nikon although I have to say, the last images I compared with a Canon guy, my A-400 5.6 APS-c images were way better than his 70-200 2.8 with TC images.. he used the burst approach, which didn't seem to work as well as the line up, anticipate and fire at the right time approach, that while tedious, can produce razor sharp results. Up until now it hasn't been important.. but the next year and beyond it's going to be very important. That's the trouble with life, things always change.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
af, pentax, pentax news, pentax rumors, pre-production, ricoh, sensor, sensors, system
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ricoh Imaging promises new hi-end rumours, possible another company name change Uluru Photographic Industry and Professionals 21 08-27-2013 04:40 AM
Phase Detect AF Tracking Test Pheo Pentax K-30 & K-50 3 07-15-2012 12:58 AM
Ricoh promises some very high-end Ricoh products this year... JohnBee Pentax News and Rumors 33 06-28-2012 04:50 AM
Warren Buffett Promises to Pay Off the National Debt–If Republicans Help stevewig General Talk 6 02-15-2012 10:00 AM
BBC: Cameron promises powers to limit executives' pay jolepp General Talk 2 01-08-2012 04:54 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:15 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top