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09-27-2013, 04:35 AM   #181
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Heh,
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The Awesome Mode.

Yes, I did not mean that just Mode dial would be thicker, but whole camera...

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SRS seems to be offering some sort of presentation that might be the K-3.
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Not holding my breath.

I think full frame is largely overrated. Like everything else in photography one advantage always has its disadvantages. One will be depth of field. Unless you like "bokeh" in every photo, a larger format at the same f-stop ALWAYS has less depth of field.

The camera has to be at least a little heavier too.

Just got done paying off my Pentax K-5 II. Love THAT camera.

Buying a K-3 will not automatically make you a better photographer, just a photographer who now has less money.

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It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...
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QuoteOriginally posted by richard balonglong Quote
It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...
In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

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In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.
+1

And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C.
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In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.
I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price.
But my garage decided for me. And common sense.
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+1

And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C.
Personally, I love the abysmal resale because I rarely buy equipment when it first comes out. Whether cams or cell phones or otherwise. I love buying smartphones, 4 months after purchase, for 50% or more off with the balance of the 2 year warranty, for example.

I'm going to enjoy cashing in on people getting rid of their K-5IIs models.
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In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.
Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them.

It's not really the same price at all.

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Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them.
Indeed, when I hand my pictures to my customers, they really value them because they instantly see they were made with a camera that has a metal alloy body.
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I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price.
But my garage decided for me. And common sense.
I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model?

Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny..
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QuoteOriginally posted by PBandJ Quote
I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model?

Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny..
You mean an "I4". There are very, very, very few examples of non-inline 4 cylinders, outside of a flat configuration.
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why skimp and get the lower model?
Better fuel efficiency, perhaps, which provides lower operating costs. Comparing cameras (and automobiles) involves many factors, not just sensor dimensions, pixel count, or viewfinder characteristics for example. As we see in these extended forum discussions, the 'options space' is multi-dimensional.
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My Pentax supplier in the UK (SRS Microsystems) have announced a Pentax open day on Oct 9th. They suggest that they will have something new and very interesting to show.

UK First at SRS | Pentax Open Day
09-27-2013, 06:30 AM   #194
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I'm still stupified why they would spend resources aligning their products with the number '5' and then turn around immediately and launch a camera with a '3' in the name.

What now for the lower tiers? K-30 already there..
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In the meantime one can get a K-5II with grip for 799$...

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