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repaap · 09-27-2013, 04:35 AM

Heh,

Originally posted by Vylen

The Awesome Mode.

Yes, I did not mean that just Mode dial would be thicker, but whole camera...

snake · 09-27-2013, 04:45 AM

SRS seems to be offering some sort of presentation that might be the K-3.

richard balonglong · 09-27-2013, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by StrasburgBarry

Not holding my breath.

I think full frame is largely overrated. Like everything else in photography one advantage always has its disadvantages. One will be depth of field. Unless you like "bokeh" in every photo, a larger format at the same f-stop ALWAYS has less depth of field.

The camera has to be at least a little heavier too.

Just got done paying off my Pentax K-5 II. Love THAT camera.

Buying a K-3 will not automatically make you a better photographer, just a photographer who now has less money.

Strasburgbarry

It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...

PBandJ · 09-27-2013, 04:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by richard balonglong

It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...

In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

Clavius · 09-27-2013, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by PBandJ

In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

+1

And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C.

Uluru · 09-27-2013, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by PBandJ

In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price.
But my garage decided for me. And common sense.

snake · 09-27-2013, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

+1

And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C.

Personally, I love the abysmal resale because I rarely buy equipment when it first comes out. Whether cams or cell phones or otherwise. I love buying smartphones, 4 months after purchase, for 50% or more off with the balance of the 2 year warranty, for example.

I'm going to enjoy cashing in on people getting rid of their K-5IIs models.

awaldram · 09-27-2013, 05:33 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by PBandJ

In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them.

It's not really the same price at all.

Clavius · 09-27-2013, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by awaldram

Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them.

Indeed, when I hand my pictures to my customers, they really value them because they instantly see they were made with a camera that has a metal alloy body.

PBandJ · 09-27-2013, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price.
But my garage decided for me. And common sense.

I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model?

Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny..

snake · 09-27-2013, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by PBandJ

I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model?

Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny..

You mean an "I4". There are very, very, very few examples of non-inline 4 cylinders, outside of a flat configuration.

**c.a.m** · 09-27-2013, 06:10 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by PBandJ

why skimp and get the lower model?

Better fuel efficiency, perhaps, which provides lower operating costs. Comparing cameras (and automobiles) involves many factors, not just sensor dimensions, pixel count, or viewfinder characteristics for example. As we see in these extended forum discussions, the 'options space' is multi-dimensional.

**robbiec** · 09-27-2013, 06:22 AM

My Pentax supplier in the UK (SRS Microsystems) have announced a Pentax open day on Oct 9th. They suggest that they will have something new and very interesting to show.

UK First at SRS | Pentax Open Day

mee · 09-27-2013, 06:30 AM

I'm still stupified why they would spend resources aligning their products with the number '5' and then turn around immediately and launch a camera with a '3' in the name.

What now for the lower tiers? K-30 already there..

mamethot · 09-27-2013, 06:32 AM

In the meantime one can get a K-5II with grip for 799$...

Lozeau | Pentax K-5 II Body

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09-27-2013, 04:35 AM	#181
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,222	Heh, Originally posted by Vylen The Awesome Mode. Yes, I did not mean that just Mode dial would be thicker, but whole camera...

09-27-2013, 04:45 AM	#182
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	SRS seems to be offering some sort of presentation that might be the K-3.

09-27-2013, 04:48 AM	#183
richard balonglong Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Baguio City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 350	Originally posted by StrasburgBarry Not holding my breath. I think full frame is largely overrated. Like everything else in photography one advantage always has its disadvantages. One will be depth of field. Unless you like "bokeh" in every photo, a larger format at the same f-stop ALWAYS has less depth of field. The camera has to be at least a little heavier too. Just got done paying off my Pentax K-5 II. Love THAT camera. Buying a K-3 will not automatically make you a better photographer, just a photographer who now has less money. Strasburgbarry It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...

09-27-2013, 04:50 AM - 1 Like	#184
PBandJ Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC metro area Photos: Gallery Posts: 480	Originally posted by richard balonglong It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C... In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'.

09-27-2013, 04:57 AM	#185
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,147	Originally posted by PBandJ In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'. +1 And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C.

09-27-2013, 05:02 AM	#186
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by PBandJ In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'. I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price. But my garage decided for me. And common sense.

09-27-2013, 05:17 AM	#187
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	Originally posted by Clavius +1 And then consider the future resale value of that competitor's FF, and compare that to the abismal resale value of Pentax APS-C. Personally, I love the abysmal resale because I rarely buy equipment when it first comes out. Whether cams or cell phones or otherwise. I love buying smartphones, 4 months after purchase, for 50% or more off with the balance of the 2 year warranty, for example. I'm going to enjoy cashing in on people getting rid of their K-5IIs models.

09-27-2013, 05:33 AM - 2 Likes	#188
awaldram Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 732	Originally posted by PBandJ In my mind, the question is not, 'do I need a FF' but 'why shouldn't I buy a competitor's FF when it's essentially the same price as Pentax APS-C'. Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them. It's not really the same price at all.

09-27-2013, 05:41 AM	#189
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,147	Originally posted by awaldram Don't understand the draw of a plastic fantastic lucky bag slow FF Vs metal alloy weather resistant quick aps-c whoever makes them. Indeed, when I hand my pictures to my customers, they really value them because they instantly see they were made with a camera that has a metal alloy body.

09-27-2013, 05:49 AM	#190
PBandJ Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC metro area Photos: Gallery Posts: 480	Originally posted by Uluru I had the same dilemma; whether to but a nice family car, or a small secondhand truck. Same price. But my garage decided for me. And common sense. I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model? Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny..

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09-27-2013, 05:58 AM	#191
snake Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: NY/Germany Posts: 1,183	Originally posted by PBandJ I think a better comparison is v6 or v8 engine in the same car category [eg compact sedans]. If the same price [give or take a couple hundred dollars] why skimp and get the lower model? Edit- must be dreaming... I meant v4 or v6... A v8 Honda civic would be funny.. You mean an "I4". There are very, very, very few examples of non-inline 4 cylinders, outside of a flat configuration.

09-27-2013, 06:10 AM - 1 Like	#192
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,982	Originally posted by PBandJ why skimp and get the lower model? Better fuel efficiency, perhaps, which provides lower operating costs. Comparing cameras (and automobiles) involves many factors, not just sensor dimensions, pixel count, or viewfinder characteristics for example. As we see in these extended forum discussions, the 'options space' is multi-dimensional.

09-27-2013, 06:22 AM	#193
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,875	My Pentax supplier in the UK (SRS Microsystems) have announced a Pentax open day on Oct 9th. They suggest that they will have something new and very interesting to show. UK First at SRS \| Pentax Open Day

09-27-2013, 06:30 AM	#194
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	I'm still stupified why they would spend resources aligning their products with the number '5' and then turn around immediately and launch a camera with a '3' in the name. What now for the lower tiers? K-30 already there..

09-27-2013, 06:32 AM	#195
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	In the meantime one can get a K-5II with grip for 799$... Lozeau \| Pentax K-5 II Body

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