New image of K-3!?

tzrenz0 · 09-27-2013, 06:32 AM

Interesting for them to put a silhouette of a camera there. Are they going to reveal a new product?

limpet · 09-27-2013, 06:39 AM

I find this all quite exciting, and I don`t even own a Pentax

IchabodCrane · 09-27-2013, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

All right. Here's the solution.

If you don't use a lens as a measure, but shutter release button and size of the logo, and align one picture above another, the bodies match in width.
So I believe the grip will fit too. But, the K-3 is a bit taller. Just a little. A bit bigger / different pentaprism / magnification? Don't know.

However, as said above, K3 has gained a bit in volume here and there, has more stuff in it.

The front control wheel on the aleged K-3 appears a little bit smaller than the same part on the K-5. I truly doubt the wheel itself is smaller so that suggests these photos are not of identical scale.

Wired · 09-27-2013, 06:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Clavius

Indeed, when I hand my pictures to my customers, they really value them because they instantly see they were made with a camera that has a metal alloy body.

Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC?

Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF?

How does your bank account feel buying a 70-200 f2.8 VRII vs a DA*50-135mm f2.8?

Do you like to use 1/8000" shutter speed or 5 frame exposure bracketing? How about a front IR remote port?

**monochrome** · 09-27-2013, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Wired

Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC?

Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF?

How does your bank account feel buying a 70-200 f2.8 VRII vs a DA*50-135mm f2.8?

Do you like to use 1/8000" shutter speed or 5 frame exposure bracketing? How about a front IR remote port?

Yeah, Ok, but . . . FF!

Clavius · 09-27-2013, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Wired

Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC?

My client that uses my pictures of their products for their webshop, which enlarges the pictures when you hover the mouse over their products... YES they notice the difference in resolution.

Originally posted by Wired

Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF?

As soon as I can justify buying a 645D, I'll cary THAT around everywhere I go.

bxf · 09-27-2013, 07:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Clavius

My client that uses my pictures of their products for their webshop, which enlarges the pictures when you hover the mouse over their products... YES they notice the difference in resolution..

I'd be very, very curious to know what type of product requires screen display that cannot be satisfied by APS-C.

**Belnan** · 09-27-2013, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by limpet

I find this all quite exciting, and I don`t even own a Pentax

Correction, You don't own a Pentax Yet

StrasburgBarry · 09-27-2013, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by richard balonglong

It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C...

When you can get tack sharp 16 X 20s from an APS-C Pentax camera what really is the point of full frame? Sorry, still not sold on it.

Andi Lo · 09-27-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by StrasburgBarry

When you can get tack sharp 16 X 20s from an APS-C Pentax camera what really is the point of full frame? Sorry, still not sold on it.

Why buy a 50mm/1.4 lens that can get a sharp image at f/2 when you can already shoot same tack sharp image with the 1855 kitlens at f/8?

Why buy a DA 50-135 when the DA 50-200 covers more range, and is good enough to take photos of my kids at f/8?

FF is exactly the same thing It's about having options. If you dont need the options that FF provides, great! Save your money and mental stress and be happy with the one you have.

And the IQ of practically all FF bodies are excellent, the DR and the way the image responds to Lightroom highlight / shadow recovery (and all the other sliders really) is unbelievable. High ISO of all currently produced bodies beats any APS-C sensors. K-5 was lauded as a great camera when it was released since the IQ is roughly equal to Canon 5Dii in lab measurements. In fact that's actually a compliment for Canon 5dii, as it is a much older tech

Nacho_tyr · 09-27-2013, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by hopey

If i remember right, Pentax stated back at the time that the Kx lacked focus points because of the prism housing design and that they changed it in the Kr to add them. I think Kr's and Kx's viewfinders were the same size.

AF sensor has behaind of mirror. But the tiny ligth wath see throw the view finder is in the Focusun screen just behsin of the penta mirror/prism

wll · 09-27-2013, 08:30 AM

Does anyone have an idea what the ISO rating will be on the K-3 ?

I'm hoping that it is as good as the K-5 series is in low light, for me that is a big point.

wll

**mattb123** · 09-27-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by wll

Does anyone have an idea what the ISO rating will be on the K-3 ?

I'm hoping that it is as good as the K-5 series is in low light, for me that is a big point.

wll

I don't think we know for sure but if it was only as good as a K-5 people would be disappointed. I'd expect it to be considerably better.

**monochrome** · 09-27-2013, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

Why buy a 50mm/1.4 lens that can get a sharp image at f/2 when you can already shoot same tack sharp image with the 1855 kitlens at f/8?

Why buy a DA 50-135 when the DA 50-200 covers more range, and is good enough to take photos of my kids at f/8?

Well, most people never buy another lens, and most people won't buy a FF ILC either.

LFLee · 09-27-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by bossa

The lens is definitely a fake addition. The rings are not concentric and there are real deviations from circular. This camera may well be a FF with the lens added to add confusion for the rumor mill to have fun with. OR It may have been photographed with an as yet unannounced lens (FF?) that is to remain secret.

PS> I'm going against the tide here and predicting it is a FF camera
A 24MP FF camera
or
A 54MP camera with a 24MP APS-C crop mode
or
A 36MP Camera with a 15MP APS-C crop mode

Both later scenarios would be killer solutions in allowing people to use their APS-C glass and gradually add or transition to FF glass as it is released by Pentax/Ricoh.

PS2> The width of the lens is too big in relation to the placement of the buttons around the mount - It covers them way more than it should considering the lens is not tapered or does not have any flared conical sections in it's profile. The body is probably bigger than a K-5 and the extra weight also hints at that (if that's a true spec).

PS3>
The PENTAX decal 'just fits' on the housing now and it does appear the edges of the housing are tapered more hinting that the profile would show a very deep flash reach (like the K-30)
The Pentaprism is also higher too, possibly containing a GPS circuit or just a bigger prism because it may well be a FF camera.

I'm still predicting a FF

I hope you are right.... I hope you are right...

My guess is, if the FF is ever here, will be announce and the earlier arrival date is next year. This K-3, is a APS-C.

.... for me, as long as there is a new K-mount flagship camera from Ricoh (and keep the PENTAX brand on the camera), I am happy, I am happy.

09-27-2013, 07:44 AM	#203
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Yet Originally posted by limpet I find this all quite exciting, and I don`t even own a Pentax Correction, You don't own a Pentax Yet

09-27-2013, 08:01 AM	#205
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	Originally posted by StrasburgBarry When you can get tack sharp 16 X 20s from an APS-C Pentax camera what really is the point of full frame? Sorry, still not sold on it. Why buy a 50mm/1.4 lens that can get a sharp image at f/2 when you can already shoot same tack sharp image with the 1855 kitlens at f/8? Why buy a DA 50-135 when the DA 50-200 covers more range, and is good enough to take photos of my kids at f/8? FF is exactly the same thing It's about having options. If you dont need the options that FF provides, great! Save your money and mental stress and be happy with the one you have. And the IQ of practically all FF bodies are excellent, the DR and the way the image responds to Lightroom highlight / shadow recovery (and all the other sliders really) is unbelievable. High ISO of all currently produced bodies beats any APS-C sensors. K-5 was lauded as a great camera when it was released since the IQ is roughly equal to Canon 5Dii in lab measurements. In fact that's actually a compliment for Canon 5dii, as it is a much older tech Last edited by Andi Lo; 09-27-2013 at 08:07 AM.

09-27-2013, 08:30 AM	#207
wll Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mission Hills, CA Posts: 773	New ISO Rating Question ? Does anyone have an idea what the ISO rating will be on the K-3 ? I'm hoping that it is as good as the K-5 series is in low light, for me that is a big point. wll

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09-27-2013, 06:32 AM	#196
tzrenz0 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gold Coast Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Interesting for them to put a silhouette of a camera there. Are they going to reveal a new product?

09-27-2013, 06:39 AM	#197
limpet Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Nottinghamshire Photos: Albums Posts: 47	I find this all quite exciting, and I don`t even own a Pentax

09-27-2013, 06:42 AM	#198
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Uluru All right. Here's the solution. If you don't use a lens as a measure, but shutter release button and size of the logo, and align one picture above another, the bodies match in width. So I believe the grip will fit too. But, the K-3 is a bit taller. Just a little. A bit bigger / different pentaprism / magnification? Don't know. However, as said above, K3 has gained a bit in volume here and there, has more stuff in it. The front control wheel on the aleged K-3 appears a little bit smaller than the same part on the K-5. I truly doubt the wheel itself is smaller so that suggests these photos are not of identical scale.

09-27-2013, 06:42 AM - 1 Like	#199
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by Clavius Indeed, when I hand my pictures to my customers, they really value them because they instantly see they were made with a camera that has a metal alloy body. Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC? Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF? How does your bank account feel buying a 70-200 f2.8 VRII vs a DA*50-135mm f2.8? Do you like to use 1/8000" shutter speed or 5 frame exposure bracketing? How about a front IR remote port?

09-27-2013, 06:51 AM	#200
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Wired Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC? Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF? How does your bank account feel buying a 70-200 f2.8 VRII vs a DA*50-135mm f2.8? Do you like to use 1/8000" shutter speed or 5 frame exposure bracketing? How about a front IR remote port? Yeah, Ok, but . . . FF!

09-27-2013, 06:56 AM	#201
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Wired Do they see the difference between an image shot full frame and APSC? My client that uses my pictures of their products for their webshop, which enlarges the pictures when you hover the mouse over their products... YES they notice the difference in resolution. Originally posted by Wired Does your back thank you because your carrying nearly half the weight...or does it scream at you because your hauling a FF? As soon as I can justify buying a 645D, I'll cary THAT around everywhere I go.

09-27-2013, 07:06 AM - 1 Like	#202
bxf Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lisbon area Posts: 1,660	Originally posted by Clavius My client that uses my pictures of their products for their webshop, which enlarges the pictures when you hover the mouse over their products... YES they notice the difference in resolution.. I'd be very, very curious to know what type of product requires screen display that cannot be satisfied by APS-C.

09-27-2013, 07:51 AM	#204
StrasburgBarry Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Strasburg, Ohio, USA Posts: 48	Originally posted by richard balonglong It may be overrated, but still a usefull format for many photographers especially for those who have specific purpose, it may be for shallower dof or a better low light performance or for photgraphers that are in demand for better larger prints. FF is not for all, also for APS-C. And if you point out the 645D, it may be too much for those who want o step up from APS-C... When you can get tack sharp 16 X 20s from an APS-C Pentax camera what really is the point of full frame? Sorry, still not sold on it.

09-27-2013, 08:02 AM	#206
Nacho_tyr Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 41	Originally posted by hopey If i remember right, Pentax stated back at the time that the Kx lacked focus points because of the prism housing design and that they changed it in the Kr to add them. I think Kr's and Kx's viewfinders were the same size. AF sensor has behaind of mirror. But the tiny ligth wath see throw the view finder is in the Focusun screen just behsin of the penta mirror/prism

09-27-2013, 08:31 AM	#208
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,873	Originally posted by wll Does anyone have an idea what the ISO rating will be on the K-3 ? I'm hoping that it is as good as the K-5 series is in low light, for me that is a big point. wll I don't think we know for sure but if it was only as good as a K-5 people would be disappointed. I'd expect it to be considerably better.

09-27-2013, 08:32 AM	#209
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Andi Lo Why buy a 50mm/1.4 lens that can get a sharp image at f/2 when you can already shoot same tack sharp image with the 1855 kitlens at f/8? Why buy a DA 50-135 when the DA 50-200 covers more range, and is good enough to take photos of my kids at f/8? Well, most people never buy another lens, and most people won't buy a FF ILC either.

09-27-2013, 08:45 AM	#210
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Originally posted by bossa The lens is definitely a fake addition. The rings are not concentric and there are real deviations from circular. This camera may well be a FF with the lens added to add confusion for the rumor mill to have fun with. OR It may have been photographed with an as yet unannounced lens (FF?) that is to remain secret. PS> I'm going against the tide here and predicting it is a FF camera A 24MP FF camera or A 54MP camera with a 24MP APS-C crop mode or A 36MP Camera with a 15MP APS-C crop mode Both later scenarios would be killer solutions in allowing people to use their APS-C glass and gradually add or transition to FF glass as it is released by Pentax/Ricoh. PS2> The width of the lens is too big in relation to the placement of the buttons around the mount - It covers them way more than it should considering the lens is not tapered or does not have any flared conical sections in it's profile. The body is probably bigger than a K-5 and the extra weight also hints at that (if that's a true spec). PS3> The PENTAX decal 'just fits' on the housing now and it does appear the edges of the housing are tapered more hinting that the profile would show a very deep flash reach (like the K-30) The Pentaprism is also higher too, possibly containing a GPS circuit or just a bigger prism because it may well be a FF camera. I'm still predicting a FF I hope you are right.... I hope you are right... My guess is, if the FF is ever here, will be announce and the earlier arrival date is next year. This K-3, is a APS-C. .... for me, as long as there is a new K-mount flagship camera from Ricoh (and keep the PENTAX brand on the camera), I am happy, I am happy.