another new image of K-3!?

Mistral75 · 10-04-2013, 05:25 AM

The Ricoh GR's suggested retail price was €749 at launch in France whilst the Nikon Coolpix A's was €999.

Clicker · 10-04-2013, 05:51 AM

or someone formerly from Minolta is onboard

**RuiC** · 10-04-2013, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

LOL, If I add up each and every K-3 rumor up untill now, then Oct 8th is going to be known as "the big letdown". Rumor has it that the K-3 has:
- Full Frame sensor,
- 40mp through sensor shift,
- a big amount of AF points,
- all cross AF points,
- 5 axis SR,
- both OVF and EVF,
- an FF VF on an APS-C camera, (wait what?)
- and what not...

What if Pentax "only" markets just a very good upgrade to the K-5: A small APS-C DSLR with lots of muscle? That's going to be so boring!

[/sarc]

Seriously, if the K-3 improves as much as the K-5 did from the K-7, then it's going to rock, even without all the extraordinary powers. Ok, it does need some cool feature to set itself apart from the rest, but all the rumors that are currently going are just out of this world.

For sure it is not a FF sensor, but I believe that the hump on the left side is to accommodate the step-motor to drive the mechanism for the EVF. On the patent it is shown on the bottom right side, but as there is already the mirror motor drive and being the other hump on the right side for the diaphragm motor drive it is the only possible place to go such step-motor.

Zygonyx · 10-04-2013, 06:35 AM

Hi,
please could you explain us what is the utility of this "step motor" ?
In live view mode, no other SLR seems to have it ?

**monochrome** · 10-04-2013, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Hi,
please could you explain us what is the utility of this "step motor" ?
In live view mode, no other SLR seems to have it ?

You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder.

Clavius · 10-04-2013, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder.

I don't get that part either... My technical knowledge isn't that good, so I thought it was only and kept quiet.

Asahiflex · 10-04-2013, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder.

Maybe it mechanically replaces the ground glass screen with a LCD screen? Although to me that seems to be a little stupid and overengineered...

D1N0 · 10-04-2013, 06:55 AM - **1 Like**

I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland.

Asahiflex · 10-04-2013, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland.

I would like to suggest you to not expect anything other than a jump in megapixels (and not a significant jump at that). That way you will never be disappointed!

derekkite · 10-04-2013, 07:00 AM - **1 Like**

It almost looks like #21 swings or slides out of the way by the gear mechanism. OVF in normal shooting mode, evf for movie mode. Neat idea. As much as live view and articulating screens are nice, stability of the body against the eye held with two hands would be an advantage. I'm surprised no one has come up with a view screen on the top so you can hold the body against your chest, hanging on the straps around your neck. Another stable holding position.

thibs · 10-04-2013, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

I'm surprised no one has come up with a view screen on the top so you can hold the body against your chest, hanging on the straps around your neck. Another stable holding position.

Somehow like old (p)Z1 but with an EVF in place of the LCD ?
Yeah that be TLR/Rolleiflex-like VF. I'd probably buy that if implementation allright, although a stinking EVF (I pulling my own legs, huh).

derekkite · 10-04-2013, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Somehow like old (p)Z1 but with an EVF in place of the LCD ?
Yeah that be TLR/Rolleiflex-like VF. I'd probably buy that if implementation allright, although a stinking EVF (I pulling my own legs, huh).

I don't quite understand why the 'hold the camera at arm's length and squint at a small screen and hope nothing moves too much' style has taken off. Yes and lcd, but if it is articulated make it possible to swing it up over the top of the body.

As I write this I see signs that I'm getting old.

thibs · 10-04-2013, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

I don't quite understand why the 'hold the camera at arm's length and squint at a small screen and hope nothing moves too much' style has taken off. Yes and lcd, but if it is articulated make it possible to swing it up over the top of the body.

As I write this I see signs that I'm getting old.

Nope, a fixed top (or interchangeable one LX-like) EVF can get you (just as with 6x6 cameras) sunshades easily (or easier) so you can actually see something on the screen.
On a moving screen in immediately gets in the way. But your solution is better than not having at all a way of framing from the top, that's true.
Oh, and make it configurable: I want it to be inverted left/right and square.

derekkite · 10-04-2013, 07:19 AM

Ah yes, the sunscreen. I'm liking this more and more.

konraDarnok · 10-04-2013, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland.

You're probably right, however Ricoh has money. So they could offer a loss leader if they wanted to. I have no doubt Nikon and Canon are losing money on the 6D and D600. Selling cameras is all about selling glass that is profitable.

10-04-2013, 06:11 AM	#378
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by Clavius LOL, If I add up each and every K-3 rumor up untill now, then Oct 8th is going to be known as "the big letdown". Rumor has it that the K-3 has: - Full Frame sensor, - 40mp through sensor shift, - a big amount of AF points, - all cross AF points, - 5 axis SR, - both OVF and EVF, - an FF VF on an APS-C camera, (wait what?) - and what not... What if Pentax "only" markets just a very good upgrade to the K-5: A small APS-C DSLR with lots of muscle? That's going to be so boring! [/sarc] Seriously, if the K-3 improves as much as the K-5 did from the K-7, then it's going to rock, even without all the extraordinary powers. Ok, it does need some cool feature to set itself apart from the rest, but all the rumors that are currently going are just out of this world. For sure it is not a FF sensor, but I believe that the hump on the left side is to accommodate the step-motor to drive the mechanism for the EVF. On the patent it is shown on the bottom right side, but as there is already the mirror motor drive and being the other hump on the right side for the diaphragm motor drive it is the only possible place to go such step-motor. Attached Images

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10-04-2013, 05:25 AM	#376
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	The Ricoh GR's suggested retail price was €749 at launch in France whilst the Nikon Coolpix A's was €999.

10-04-2013, 05:51 AM	#377
Clicker Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,241	or someone formerly from Minolta is onboard

10-04-2013, 06:35 AM	#379
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Hi, please could you explain us what is the utility of this "step motor" ? In live view mode, no other SLR seems to have it ?

10-04-2013, 06:48 AM	#380
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Zygonyx Hi, please could you explain us what is the utility of this "step motor" ? In live view mode, no other SLR seems to have it ? You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder.

10-04-2013, 06:52 AM	#381
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by monochrome You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder. I don't get that part either... My technical knowledge isn't that good, so I thought it was only and kept quiet.

10-04-2013, 06:52 AM	#382
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by monochrome You are one step ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what a motor has to do with and electronic viewfinder. Maybe it mechanically replaces the ground glass screen with a LCD screen? Although to me that seems to be a little stupid and overengineered...

10-04-2013, 06:55 AM - 1 Like	#383
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland.

10-04-2013, 07:00 AM	#384
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by D1N0 I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland. I would like to suggest you to not expect anything other than a jump in megapixels (and not a significant jump at that). That way you will never be disappointed!

10-04-2013, 07:00 AM - 1 Like	#385
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	It almost looks like #21 swings or slides out of the way by the gear mechanism. OVF in normal shooting mode, evf for movie mode. Neat idea. As much as live view and articulating screens are nice, stability of the body against the eye held with two hands would be an advantage. I'm surprised no one has come up with a view screen on the top so you can hold the body against your chest, hanging on the straps around your neck. Another stable holding position.

10-04-2013, 07:03 AM	#386
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by derekkite I'm surprised no one has come up with a view screen on the top so you can hold the body against your chest, hanging on the straps around your neck. Another stable holding position. Somehow like old (p)Z1 but with an EVF in place of the LCD ? Yeah that be TLR/Rolleiflex-like VF. I'd probably buy that if implementation allright, although a stinking EVF (I pulling my own legs, huh).

10-04-2013, 07:13 AM	#387
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by thibs Somehow like old (p)Z1 but with an EVF in place of the LCD ? Yeah that be TLR/Rolleiflex-like VF. I'd probably buy that if implementation allright, although a stinking EVF (I pulling my own legs, huh). I don't quite understand why the 'hold the camera at arm's length and squint at a small screen and hope nothing moves too much' style has taken off. Yes and lcd, but if it is articulated make it possible to swing it up over the top of the body. As I write this I see signs that I'm getting old.

10-04-2013, 07:16 AM	#388
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by derekkite I don't quite understand why the 'hold the camera at arm's length and squint at a small screen and hope nothing moves too much' style has taken off. Yes and lcd, but if it is articulated make it possible to swing it up over the top of the body. As I write this I see signs that I'm getting old. Nope, a fixed top (or interchangeable one LX-like) EVF can get you (just as with 6x6 cameras) sunshades easily (or easier) so you can actually see something on the screen. On a moving screen in immediately gets in the way. But your solution is better than not having at all a way of framing from the top, that's true. Oh, and make it configurable: I want it to be inverted left/right and square.

10-04-2013, 07:19 AM	#389
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Ah yes, the sunscreen. I'm liking this more and more.

10-04-2013, 07:21 AM	#390
konraDarnok Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Albums Posts: 969	Originally posted by D1N0 I'll just wait another two days. I don't think the Ricoh Pentax K-3 is going to run ahead on features like hybrid viewfinders in dslrs. This camera is getting specced up beyond belief all for a mere $1300 it can outperform everything in dslrland. You're probably right, however Ricoh has money. So they could offer a loss leader if they wanted to. I have no doubt Nikon and Canon are losing money on the 6D and D600. Selling cameras is all about selling glass that is profitable.