Firmware Update V1.06 for K-5II/K-5IIs

thibs · 10-03-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Its also to make the camera recognize the lens ID and do appropriate in-camera corrections (of CA, distortion). Sure, if you are not planning on using those lenses and flashes, you might not need it. But! The update might also include silent fixes, things they dont tell us about.

Unless Pentax changed their way of doing, no need for a firmware for CA et all, those are built-in lens (cool huh?).

**monochrome** · 10-03-2013, 03:38 PM

Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have.

JPT · 10-03-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have.

Hmm. Maybe, but I still see differences. Look at yesterday's GR firmware update. They were quite specific about what had been added and what had been improved. In the past, they even produced new pages of the manual as PDFs to explain the new features - not sure if they still do. With the updates to Pentax cameras, we still end up on the forum say "Has anybody noticed any changes?" So I think they still have some way to go to equal the Ricoh approach. But I do appreciate the continuous refinements they've been making to the K-01's AF. That is good practice, if not yet "best practice".

**DDoram** · 10-03-2013, 03:56 PM

FW 1.06 fixed a wonky battery issue caused by FW 1.05 on my K5IIs. What a relief!

Dale

**bjdavey** · 10-03-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by DDoram

FW 1.06 fixed a wonky battery issue caused by FW 1.05 on my K5IIs. What a relief!

Dale

I had no problems with 1.05, and also no issues with today's upgrade to 1.06 - everything is working fine. Just did a quick test, and the tilt flash overexposure issue seems to be fixed. Will run some more extensive tests tomorrow, but this seems hopeful.

Uluru · 10-03-2013, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have.

Hmm, like the update of the MX-1's firmware, which never came, and the year is almost closing.
Are they abandoning that camera?

Or the K-01 firmware update, which came after many months and gave the camera a mere starting point to be a functional piece of photographic equipment, after all. Both cameras came under Ricoh.

The story of their firmware updates across cameras is a colourful one, and really has no embedded pattern of a well designed approach.

Kunzite · 10-03-2013, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by JPT

Hmm. Maybe, but I still see differences. Look at yesterday's GR firmware update. They were quite specific about what had been added and what had been improved. In the past, they even produced new pages of the manual as PDFs to explain the new features - not sure if they still do. With the updates to Pentax cameras, we still end up on the forum say "Has anybody noticed any changes?" So I think they still have some way to go to equal the Ricoh approach. But I do appreciate the continuous refinements they've been making to the K-01's AF. That is good practice, if not yet "best practice".

But the GR update changed functionality, it wasn't just a "make sure no focus shift occurs when using the LED af assist of the new flashes, and add HD Limiteds IDs in the internal database".
Pentax added functionality with new firmwares in the past, and this was explained - for example:
Software Downloads : Support & Service | RICOH IMAGING

Mistral75 · 10-04-2013, 03:19 AM

There is definitely something wrong with HD Limiteds and older versions of firmware, see New HD DA Limited lenses.

**bjdavey** · 10-04-2013, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by bjdavey

I had no problems with 1.05, and also no issues with today's upgrade to 1.06 - everything is working fine. Just did a quick test, and the tilt flash overexposure issue seems to be fixed. Will run some more extensive tests tomorrow, but this seems hopeful.

I spoke too soon, unfortunately. Just did a series of tests, and tilt flash overexposure is still there - in my case about 1 stop overexposed if tilt flash indicator is showing on the flash LCD.

virtualjsk · 10-05-2013, 04:13 AM

Can anyone explain why the Pentax US website recommends v1.04 (Downloads & Literature - RICOH Imaging) while the Japan site offers v1.06 (http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_2_s.html)??

My new K-5 II came with v 1.0, which seemed to work, then I updated to 1.05 as soon as I had the chance, and now I'm using 1.06 and everything seems fine.

Class A · 10-05-2013, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by virtualjsk

Can anyone explain why the Pentax US website recommends v1.04 (Downloads & Literature - RICOH Imaging) while the Japan site offers v1.06 (http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_2_s.html)??

I'm sure they just haven't caught up yet.

Would be good to hear back from V1.06 upgraders after they had a chance to experience the firmware for a bit longer. Perhaps there are some unannounced but nevertheless useful improvements as well?

virtualjsk · 10-05-2013, 01:23 PM - **1 Like**

Using the camera today with v 1.06, and after powering down and changing lenses when I switched power back on rear display did not come on. I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues.

Class A · 10-05-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by virtualjsk

I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues.

Thanks a lot for sharing.

It shouldn't be the case, but it is possible that the camera ideally needs a hard reset once after a firmware update.

So if this remains a single occurrence then I'd chalk it up to inconsistencies between firmware expectations and actual camera values, and wouldn't regard that as a problem.

Let's hope your problem was a one-off issue.

**Mikesul** · 10-06-2013, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by virtualjsk

Using the camera today with v 1.06, and after powering down and changing lenses when I switched power back on rear display did not come on. I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues.

Sorry to hear about your problem. I used my K5IIS yesterday for several hours and about a hundred shots with both the 50-135 and 16-50 with no problems at all. Hopefully yours was a one shot deal.

Waratah · 10-14-2013, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by Mikesul

Sorry to hear about your problem. I used my K5IIS yesterday for several hours and about a hundred shots with both the 50-135 and 16-50 with no problems at all. Hopefully yours was a one shot deal.

Have done two shoots with 1.06 - camera is reliable. But (and no real science to this) i wasn't over the moon about focus in first shoot post upgrading firmware. Not disasterous but probably worst in terms of focus. Have only considered fine adjustment of one out four lens was necessary in past. I spent some solid time adjust all four lens and all now need adjustment between +3 and +5. Most recent shot was crisp again.

I say un scientific because i hadn't spent serious effort (or felt the need to) with v 1.0, 1.04, and 1.05.

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10-03-2013, 01:59 PM	#16
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Na Horuk Its also to make the camera recognize the lens ID and do appropriate in-camera corrections (of CA, distortion). Sure, if you are not planning on using those lenses and flashes, you might not need it. But! The update might also include silent fixes, things they dont tell us about. Unless Pentax changed their way of doing, no need for a firmware for CA et all, those are built-in lens (cool huh?).

10-03-2013, 03:38 PM	#17
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have.

10-03-2013, 03:53 PM	#18
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Originally posted by monochrome Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have. Hmm. Maybe, but I still see differences. Look at yesterday's GR firmware update. They were quite specific about what had been added and what had been improved. In the past, they even produced new pages of the manual as PDFs to explain the new features - not sure if they still do. With the updates to Pentax cameras, we still end up on the forum say "Has anybody noticed any changes?" So I think they still have some way to go to equal the Ricoh approach. But I do appreciate the continuous refinements they've been making to the K-01's AF. That is good practice, if not yet "best practice".

10-03-2013, 03:56 PM	#19
DDoram Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 632	FW 1.06 fixed a wonky battery issue caused by FW 1.05 on my K5IIs. What a relief! Dale

10-03-2013, 04:53 PM	#20
bjdavey Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alexandria, VA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 162	Originally posted by DDoram FW 1.06 fixed a wonky battery issue caused by FW 1.05 on my K5IIs. What a relief! Dale I had no problems with 1.05, and also no issues with today's upgrade to 1.06 - everything is working fine. Just did a quick test, and the tilt flash overexposure issue seems to be fixed. Will run some more extensive tests tomorrow, but this seems hopeful.

10-03-2013, 06:26 PM	#21
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by monochrome Don't forget Pentax has adopted Ricoh's Firmware update policy - regular updates to Firmware for all models that have the necessary hardware to accept the update. Support for all older models as new updates can add capability. We will see more frequent Firmware updates on many more cameras - as shown by continued support for the K-01, which I don't think Pentax would have. Hmm, like the update of the MX-1's firmware, which never came, and the year is almost closing. Are they abandoning that camera? Or the K-01 firmware update, which came after many months and gave the camera a mere starting point to be a functional piece of photographic equipment, after all. Both cameras came under Ricoh. The story of their firmware updates across cameras is a colourful one, and really has no embedded pattern of a well designed approach.

10-03-2013, 11:25 PM	#22
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by JPT Hmm. Maybe, but I still see differences. Look at yesterday's GR firmware update. They were quite specific about what had been added and what had been improved. In the past, they even produced new pages of the manual as PDFs to explain the new features - not sure if they still do. With the updates to Pentax cameras, we still end up on the forum say "Has anybody noticed any changes?" So I think they still have some way to go to equal the Ricoh approach. But I do appreciate the continuous refinements they've been making to the K-01's AF. That is good practice, if not yet "best practice". But the GR update changed functionality, it wasn't just a "make sure no focus shift occurs when using the LED af assist of the new flashes, and add HD Limiteds IDs in the internal database". Pentax added functionality with new firmwares in the past, and this was explained - for example: Software Downloads : Support & Service \| RICOH IMAGING

10-04-2013, 03:19 AM	#23
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	There is definitely something wrong with HD Limiteds and older versions of firmware, see New HD DA Limited lenses.

10-04-2013, 09:51 AM	#24
bjdavey Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alexandria, VA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 162	Originally posted by bjdavey I had no problems with 1.05, and also no issues with today's upgrade to 1.06 - everything is working fine. Just did a quick test, and the tilt flash overexposure issue seems to be fixed. Will run some more extensive tests tomorrow, but this seems hopeful. I spoke too soon, unfortunately. Just did a series of tests, and tilt flash overexposure is still there - in my case about 1 stop overexposed if tilt flash indicator is showing on the flash LCD.

10-05-2013, 04:13 AM	#25
virtualjsk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New England Photos: Gallery Posts: 46	Can anyone explain why the Pentax US website recommends v1.04 (Downloads & Literature - RICOH Imaging) while the Japan site offers v1.06 (http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_2_s.html)?? My new K-5 II came with v 1.0, which seemed to work, then I updated to 1.05 as soon as I had the chance, and now I'm using 1.06 and everything seems fine.

10-05-2013, 04:47 AM	#26
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by virtualjsk Can anyone explain why the Pentax US website recommends v1.04 (Downloads & Literature - RICOH Imaging) while the Japan site offers v1.06 (http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/k-5_2_s.html)?? I'm sure they just haven't caught up yet. Would be good to hear back from V1.06 upgraders after they had a chance to experience the firmware for a bit longer. Perhaps there are some unannounced but nevertheless useful improvements as well?

10-05-2013, 01:23 PM - 1 Like	#27
virtualjsk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New England Photos: Gallery Posts: 46	Using the camera today with v 1.06, and after powering down and changing lenses when I switched power back on rear display did not come on. I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues.

10-05-2013, 06:58 PM	#28
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by virtualjsk I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues. Thanks a lot for sharing. It shouldn't be the case, but it is possible that the camera ideally needs a hard reset once after a firmware update. So if this remains a single occurrence then I'd chalk it up to inconsistencies between firmware expectations and actual camera values, and wouldn't regard that as a problem. Let's hope your problem was a one-off issue.

10-06-2013, 06:54 AM	#29
Mikesul Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,594	Originally posted by virtualjsk Using the camera today with v 1.06, and after powering down and changing lenses when I switched power back on rear display did not come on. I had to remove battery and then it seemed to fix itself. Seems like there might still be some stability issues. Sorry to hear about your problem. I used my K5IIS yesterday for several hours and about a hundred shots with both the 50-135 and 16-50 with no problems at all. Hopefully yours was a one shot deal.

10-14-2013, 04:00 AM	#30
Waratah Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 81	Originally posted by Mikesul Sorry to hear about your problem. I used my K5IIS yesterday for several hours and about a hundred shots with both the 50-135 and 16-50 with no problems at all. Hopefully yours was a one shot deal. Have done two shoots with 1.06 - camera is reliable. But (and no real science to this) i wasn't over the moon about focus in first shoot post upgrading firmware. Not disasterous but probably worst in terms of focus. Have only considered fine adjustment of one out four lens was necessary in past. I spent some solid time adjust all four lens and all now need adjustment between +3 and +5. Most recent shot was crisp again. I say un scientific because i hadn't spent serious effort (or felt the need to) with v 1.0, 1.04, and 1.05.