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10-06-2013, 01:08 PM   #481
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QuoteOriginally posted by repaap Quote
So, there is again this baffle with variangle LCD.. For me it is whole lot better to have it like this.

Edit: and I still do wonder, why anyone makes commersial act like that, from Caanon, to K-3 specs tread?
I can think of a couple of reasons that you might like one...

Are you shooting something that makes getting your eye to the viewfinder difficult (macro shots come to mind)? If so, an articulating LCD and live view helps quite a bit.

Is your camera somewhere that the LCD might get roughed up or scratched, such as in my camera bag at the end of a long day? No problem - turn the LCD around and forget about it

10-06-2013, 01:09 PM   #482
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
"They have eyes, but do not see" (Psalm 135:16)

See also the two pins, one on the front right, the other one on the back left: they have the same diameter on D-BG4

whilst on D-BG5 the front one is thicker and the back one thinner:
I wonder if we'd be able to somehow "tweak" the D-BG4 to fit this K3 ?
They are seemingly so very close in size.

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10-06-2013, 01:10 PM   #483
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Ok, better AF, better IQ, actually usable user modes, dual card slots... What's not to like?

Sure, I don't want or need any video functions, but so what? Nobody's forcing me to use them. I don't need the jpeg engine either, but I don't cry over it being there.

I great camera made better. And the specs are yet not confirmed.

That said, I'll stick to my K-5.

I think...
10-06-2013, 01:15 PM   #484
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QuoteOriginally posted by jbratch Quote
I can think of a couple of reasons that you might like one...

Are you shooting something that makes getting your eye to the viewfinder difficult (macro shots come to mind)? If so, an articulating LCD and live view helps quite a bit.

Is your camera somewhere that the LCD might get roughed up or scratched, such as in my camera bag at the end of a long day? No problem - turn the LCD around and forget about it
Thanks!

Yea, These circumstanses are quite rare for me, and when I need to get down with cam. I actually like it. I have been playing around with camera which has this kind a screen. It has it's perks, but I prefer fixed one. Makes me feel confident.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Samsungian Quote
I agree, I'm surprised Ricoh left out vari angle lcd on Pentax K-3.
Canon did it with 60D & again with the newly launched $1,199 Canon 70D:

Canon EOS 70D DSLR Camera (Body Only) 8469B002 B&H Photo Video

Still wished this Ricoh/Pentax bi-logo'd crop body was full frame, then I'd consider buying K-3.
For less coin I'm considering 70D just to have one dslr with vari angle lcd.
Seems like Pentax will not fit your bill !
1. Not full frame
2. no vari-angle screen
3. Canon has it ....
Suggestion: buy a Canon.

... forgot to ask: which Pentax camera are you presently using?

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10-06-2013, 01:23 PM   #486
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well, i really do like the specs so far, and even as i said i wouldnt buy Pentax atm these specs might teach me lies.
One think i really would like to have would be full tethering. I might have a job on my hands which will be much more easy with remote control, so i really hope that the K-3 will provide..
10-06-2013, 01:23 PM   #487
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QuoteOriginally posted by fuent104 Quote
Video features will probably determine whether I buy this camera, to. Ultimately, I would like to see pentax institute features as good as the Magic Lantern software provides. Considering that Magic Lantern was written on an amateur basis, without a professional R&d budget, and works with 2008 technology, I don't think this is too much too ask.

The black magic pocket cinema camera is not an m/43 camera. At least the sensor is not. The sensor is Super 16 sized.
I'm in the same boat - I need another video camera no later than late February. If the K-3 fits the bill, I will not hesitate to pick one up. Otherwise, it's probably going to be the BMPCC.

I realize that it has a S16 sized sensor, but the mount is MFT. I still have a couple of MFT lenses that would work well on this camera though, so I'm not opposed to picking one up. I would rather have a simpler 1 or 2 body solution though (less chargers to haul around, less batteries, less lenses, etc), and I just can't bring myself to buy Canon DSLRs
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There are times when a tilt screen would be very handy, such as low shots, with the camera close to the ground. I find the refconverter good for some of these, but not all, and there are also times when a tilt screen wouldn't help either (eg bright overhead sun). I bought a small LCD monitor with a hood for those occasions, but if, as has been indicated here, the K-3 comes with smart phone capability built in, that would be even better.

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I've been firmly in the anti-swivel LCD screen camp. Not for any particular reason, just because. But after a lot of reflection and a recent shoot where I did a lot of close to the ground macro I have changed my mind. I'm fine without it but I do think it would have uses for my photography. But if the same thing can be achieved via a smartphone app, that sounds like the best of both worlds.

Hoping this flucard thing really works and isn't just a dead-end gimmick.

Now we need a smartphone holder that mounts on the flash shoe......
10-06-2013, 02:05 PM   #490
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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
Yet another complaint about the "missing" articulated screen ... ...
Rumours are still rumours until official news come out and, if this is so important to you, go and buy into another brand.

JP
The second time my post has suggested I go to another product for daring to mention an articulated screen. You do realise that this is a Camera forum specific to Pentax?

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All upper level cameras, except Olympus E-# series and EM-# have no variangle.

Many members have found that it is useful and I certainly would (wideangle shooting from overhead makes for great pictures). If Pentax can do it it will be great, however not a dealbreaker if not. Get the Canon or Olympus EM for that.
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Fingers crossed for wifi to phone liveview. That for me is far better than any tilt-vari-angle screen. Think this might be one of the more outlandish hopes though!
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So Ricoh puts in a headphone jack but still leaves the k-mount crippled!?

How much would a 'stop-down coupler' add to the costs? 1 -2 $$
10-06-2013, 02:49 PM   #494
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QuoteOriginally posted by Slice Of Light Quote
So Ricoh puts in a headphone jack but still leaves the k-mount crippled!?

How much would a 'stop-down coupler' add to the costs? 1 -2 $$
It cost them sales of lenses that would otherwise sell because people buy the M variants

QuoteOriginally posted by Paul the Sunman Quote
Neither Nikon nor Canon build a "full-frame" digital camera "the size of the 35mm film cameras they USED to build WAY back in the day to go with their old 35mm lenses". Modern full frame cameras are huge, many times larger than my old Olympus OM1 35mm film camera. Every electronic device these days is tiny compared to the size of the 1960s equivalent ... except for SLR full-frame cameras. Why is everyone so keen to lug around those monsters? APS-C still has a major role, and will for some years, at least till someone (Pentax?) can shrink FF to a more practical size. And the lenses ....; I love my tiny (APS-C only) DA Limiteds.
I do agree that we really need a digital ME super / Olympus OM... ME Super is by far my favourite camera body.

But in digital, APSC has a size advantage only when one of these is true:
lower end bodies are used
pancake lenses are used (pentax speciality)
moderate telephoto is used (50-150mm / 70-200 range) and DOF equivalency is not important
you use a MILC

Otherwise the size of 6D / d600 is very manageable. imo 1.5cm extra each side is a non issue if you use a good strap / holster
Compare camera dimensions side by side
Compare camera dimensions side by side
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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote

... forgot to ask: which Pentax camera are you presently using?

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