K-3 pictures: front, side and back (aka it definitely is a headphone jack)

Barry Pearson · 10-06-2013, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by NZ_Ross

I can see the headline now "to celebrate their new presence in India, Ricoh/Pentax have dedicated the entire first years production of the K3 to be shipped to India"

Chuckle!

I haven't been to India since the 1980s. I enjoyed the trip. Perhaps it is time to go again - and just happen to bring back a new camera!

wll · 10-06-2013, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by JimmyDranox

For me, what I see for now, is ok. But I'm waiting for a WiFi and thetering, to control the camera from a tablet or smartphone. If there are here, is something close to perfect

The fact of it not having an articulating screen just about kills it for me, but if it does not have tethering, for me it would be a waste of money !

wll

Barry Pearson · 10-06-2013, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by zapp

It will be interesting to know whether there will be two card slots and whether the K5 battery grip will fit. Old design appears to survive so old accessories should survive as well.

..........

The news lens is no revelation looking at the specs... the good news is that there is more space on the roadmap now for interesting lenses.

There is a new battery grip - BG-5.

Why is there more space on the roadmap now? That new lens wasn't even on the roadmap.

Steve7527 · 10-06-2013, 02:00 AM

All this fuss about video yet no articulated screen, which would be an obvious improvement for all. Very strange. Still hoping for a price break on a K-5IIS after these revelations.

TenZ.NL · 10-06-2013, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

There is a new battery grip - BG-5.

You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same.

Sandy Hancock · 10-06-2013, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by Steve7527

All this fuss about video yet no articulated screen, which would be an obvious improvement for all. Very strange.

It is indeed very strange: that you should think this was an obvious improvement *for all*. It would make the screen more prone to failure, more difficult to weather seal and would make the body bigger, which are all fundamentally against Pentax's design philosophy for their flagship DSLR. I also imagine the possibility of tethering in the K-3 would make it redundant for anyone who is serious about video anyway.

What you mean is some people (including you) think it would be neat.

Sandy Hancock · 10-06-2013, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by TenZ.NL

You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same.

Similar, but not the same. Look at the detente pins. On the D-BG4 there are both the same size, but on the D-BG5 one is thinner, and one is thicker than those of the D-BG4. As such they are quite deliberately incompatible.

Barry Pearson · 10-06-2013, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by TenZ.NL

You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same.

I have no source other than the images of the new grip.

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Similar, but not the same. Look at the detente pins. On the D-BG4 there are both the same size, but on the D-BG5 one is thinner, and one is thicker than those of the D-BG4. As such they are quite deliberately incompatible.

I don't know about "deliberately", but I do fear "incompatible".

(For me, the problem isn't so much the price, it is that my main camera and my back-up camera would have different grips, which is more to carry around. This hasn't happened for my last 2 cameras).

**Rondec** · 10-06-2013, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by kenyee

The D7100 has a muchhhhhh better AF module (improved over the one from the D300), and a crop mode that covers the image w/ all the AF points. And I'd bet the D7100 has better video since we already know the K-3's processor can only do 1080/30p

I'd say it's a wash given what we know so far...I'd also agree it'd be stupid to price it above Nikon's D7100...

My question has more to do with buffer size, because the D7100 feels pretty skimpy in that regard.

As to auto focus, it will be fast for a Pentax, which probably won't be as good as a D7100, but probably fast enough for most folks.

Sandy Hancock · 10-06-2013, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Barry Pearson

For me, the problem isn't so much the price, it is that my main camera and my back-up camera would have different grips, which is more to carry around. This hasn't happened for my last 2 cameras

But it did happen for the model before that. The K10D used the D-BG2 because the body had a different footprint from the K-7/K-5, as does the K-3. The button layout is also different, so making the D-BG5 deliberately incompatible makes complete sense.

raider · 10-06-2013, 03:09 AM

I have been holding out upgrading from my K-7 to the K-5 and then K-5II/IIs (I admit we do have the K-01 and K-30 but that's a different story).....and I am excited about the new K-3.

Does anyone have any rumours re. the no. of AF points on this K-3?

D1N0 · 10-06-2013, 03:13 AM

24 or 25 all cross type apparently.

raider · 10-06-2013, 03:18 AM

25 all cross type AF points? I hope that is not a typo.....sounds great!

Cynog Ap Brychan · 10-06-2013, 03:19 AM

I heard 27, but I have nothing to substantiate this.

Sandy Hancock · 10-06-2013, 03:23 AM

Two days people. Shouldn't we just wait?

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10-06-2013, 01:32 AM	#406
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by NZ_Ross I can see the headline now "to celebrate their new presence in India, Ricoh/Pentax have dedicated the entire first years production of the K3 to be shipped to India" Chuckle! I haven't been to India since the 1980s. I enjoyed the trip. Perhaps it is time to go again - and just happen to bring back a new camera!

10-06-2013, 01:36 AM	#407
wll Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mission Hills, CA Posts: 773	Originally posted by JimmyDranox For me, what I see for now, is ok. But I'm waiting for a WiFi and thetering, to control the camera from a tablet or smartphone. If there are here, is something close to perfect The fact of it not having an articulating screen just about kills it for me, but if it does not have tethering, for me it would be a waste of money ! wll

10-06-2013, 01:42 AM	#408
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by zapp It will be interesting to know whether there will be two card slots and whether the K5 battery grip will fit. Old design appears to survive so old accessories should survive as well. .......... The news lens is no revelation looking at the specs... the good news is that there is more space on the roadmap now for interesting lenses. There is a new battery grip - BG-5. Why is there more space on the roadmap now? That new lens wasn't even on the roadmap.

10-06-2013, 02:00 AM	#409
Steve7527 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 21	All this fuss about video yet no articulated screen, which would be an obvious improvement for all. Very strange. Still hoping for a price break on a K-5IIS after these revelations.

10-06-2013, 02:26 AM	#410
TenZ.NL Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Below sealevel Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,100	Originally posted by Barry Pearson There is a new battery grip - BG-5. You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same.

10-06-2013, 02:32 AM	#411
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by Steve7527 All this fuss about video yet no articulated screen, which would be an obvious improvement for all. Very strange. It is indeed very strange: that you should think this was an obvious improvement for all. It would make the screen more prone to failure, more difficult to weather seal and would make the body bigger, which are all fundamentally against Pentax's design philosophy for their flagship DSLR. I also imagine the possibility of tethering in the K-3 would make it redundant for anyone who is serious about video anyway. What you mean is some people (including you) think it would be neat.

10-06-2013, 02:35 AM	#412
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by TenZ.NL You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same. Similar, but not the same. Look at the detente pins. On the D-BG4 there are both the same size, but on the D-BG5 one is thinner, and one is thicker than those of the D-BG4. As such they are quite deliberately incompatible.

10-06-2013, 02:45 AM	#413
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by TenZ.NL You have a source on this, Barry? AFAIC judging by the pics I`ve seen D-BG4 and D-BG5 look pretty much the same. I have no source other than the images of the new grip. Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Similar, but not the same. Look at the detente pins. On the D-BG4 there are both the same size, but on the D-BG5 one is thinner, and one is thicker than those of the D-BG4. As such they are quite deliberately incompatible. I don't know about "deliberately", but I do fear "incompatible". (For me, the problem isn't so much the price, it is that my main camera and my back-up camera would have different grips, which is more to carry around. This hasn't happened for my last 2 cameras).

10-06-2013, 02:55 AM	#414
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by kenyee The D7100 has a muchhhhhh better AF module (improved over the one from the D300), and a crop mode that covers the image w/ all the AF points. And I'd bet the D7100 has better video since we already know the K-3's processor can only do 1080/30p I'd say it's a wash given what we know so far...I'd also agree it'd be stupid to price it above Nikon's D7100... My question has more to do with buffer size, because the D7100 feels pretty skimpy in that regard. As to auto focus, it will be fast for a Pentax, which probably won't be as good as a D7100, but probably fast enough for most folks.

10-06-2013, 02:57 AM	#415
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Originally posted by Barry Pearson For me, the problem isn't so much the price, it is that my main camera and my back-up camera would have different grips, which is more to carry around. This hasn't happened for my last 2 cameras But it did happen for the model before that. The K10D used the D-BG2 because the body had a different footprint from the K-7/K-5, as does the K-3. The button layout is also different, so making the D-BG5 deliberately incompatible makes complete sense.

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10-06-2013, 03:09 AM	#416
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	I have been holding out upgrading from my K-7 to the K-5 and then K-5II/IIs (I admit we do have the K-01 and K-30 but that's a different story).....and I am excited about the new K-3. Does anyone have any rumours re. the no. of AF points on this K-3?

10-06-2013, 03:13 AM	#417
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	24 or 25 all cross type apparently.

10-06-2013, 03:18 AM	#418
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	25 all cross type AF points? I hope that is not a typo.....sounds great!

10-06-2013, 03:19 AM	#419
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	I heard 27, but I have nothing to substantiate this.

10-06-2013, 03:23 AM	#420
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,267	Two days people. Shouldn't we just wait?