Pentax K-3 highlights

johnmflores · 10-07-2013, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by jonny1986

about raw video output...i don't see nothing about this in spec..anybody can clarify?

Here you go. I wonder if the page is down because some of the specs are wrong. I sure hope that they don't take RAW video off!

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Fototim · 10-07-2013, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by konraDarnok

Well those limitation aren't going to be overcome by 1/250 sync speed That's a third stop, then every brand uses HSS for faster shutter speeds. So what's the problem with 1/180th?

One third stop may seem little, but that's not always the case.

That one third could give you one or two extra meters room to shoot within (people tend to pose better, with a bit of distance from the flash)
It would also give me about a second faster recycle time in many situations.

But more important: It could give you the flash/ambient mix you want.

cream · 10-07-2013, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by Alizarine

everything is awesome!

'cept for the 1/180s flash sync.

I agree! I will buy it! As soon as I can order it

hypervel · 10-07-2013, 06:52 AM

Say, what's that written in the blue line? Can't quite make it out........

Asahiflex · 10-07-2013, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Here you go. I wonder if the page is down because some of the specs are wrong. I sure hope that they don't take RAW video off!

Reading the page I thought it was about the JPEG settings.

Barry Pearson · 10-07-2013, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by txsbluesguy

Does that really saw raw under the video recording quality levels?

What raw format would that be?

CinemaDNG? Or is that too much to hope for?

Ishpuini · 10-07-2013, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Reading the page I thought it was about the JPEG settings.

I tend to agree. There's no mention of a RAW format for video, so I imagine there won't be one, and there's no explicit quality levels mentioned for JPG, so I imagine the quality levels listed are a "general" description not related to video.

Wim

cream · 10-07-2013, 06:58 AM

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238763-k-3-pictures-fr...ml#post2532151 here are the specs from another thread... ^^

johnmflores · 10-07-2013, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

I tend to agree. There's no mention of a RAW format for video, so I imagine there won't be one, and there's no explicit quality levels mentioned for JPG, so I imagine the quality levels listed are a "general" description not related to video.

Wim

I thought so too but there is a comma between each of the quality settings and one between Good and RAW.

Barry Pearson · 10-07-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Tanzer

Looks like they've brought back support for PEF, in addition to DNG.

The top of the range K-series cameras have always had PEF.

Q-series don't, and I think some less than top of the range cameras don't.

cream · 10-07-2013, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

I thought so too but there is a comma between each of the quality settings and one between Good and RAW.

I'm curious about this... RAW would be good, no compression. I think MotionJPG is less compression than x264/h.264 which is heavily compressed... I prefer a 5 minute video that takes 1.5 GB... than a 200MB video that is full of compression artefacts...

jonny1986 · 10-07-2013, 07:06 AM

raw output in video seems an error ...in my opinion....maybe it would be noce to have an active hdmi out port to register externally.

awaldram · 10-07-2013, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by Fototim

One third stop may seem little, but that's not always the case.

That one third could give you one or two extra meters room to shoot within (people tend to pose better, with a bit of distance from the flash)
It would also give me about a second faster recycle time in many situations.

Since when in the real world has shutter speed had any effect on flash recycle time ?

Flash exposure is controlled via Aperture/ISO and is not related to shutter speed.
If you had a flash set to Xsync at 1/1000 it would still use the same power as the same flash exposed @1/60 without ambient light th exposures would also be identical.

Originally posted by Fototim

But more important: It could give you the flash/ambient mix you want.

Again nothing to do with 1/180 Vs 1/250, Flash/ambient is affected flash exposure settings not shutter .

jonny1986 · 10-07-2013, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by cream

I'm curious about this... RAW would be good, no compression. I think MotionJPG is less compression than x264/h.264 which is heavily compressed... I prefer a 5 minute video that takes 1.5 GB... than a 200MB video that is full of compression artefacts...

agree i cannot believe they just left us with h264...avi is much better. raw would be amazing and would really create a wow in the cinema world.
is great also we can disabled age and manual control audio. no more need for external recorder it seems.

Fototim · 10-07-2013, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by jonny1986

to kill ambient light especially sun you need at least 8 speedflash...that's why people use profoto or battery powered strobe...because even at 1/250 sync speed you will end up at f 16 and so you need a lot of power no less than 400 watt....i mean to kill seriously...

Correct :-)

I should have used the term over power. My only excuse is that I'm not a native English speaker.

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10-07-2013, 06:51 AM	#121
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by jonny1986 about raw video output...i don't see nothing about this in spec..anybody can clarify? Here you go. I wonder if the page is down because some of the specs are wrong. I sure hope that they don't take RAW video off! Attached Images

10-07-2013, 06:51 AM	#122
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	Originally posted by konraDarnok Well those limitation aren't going to be overcome by 1/250 sync speed That's a third stop, then every brand uses HSS for faster shutter speeds. So what's the problem with 1/180th? One third stop may seem little, but that's not always the case. That one third could give you one or two extra meters room to shoot within (people tend to pose better, with a bit of distance from the flash) It would also give me about a second faster recycle time in many situations. But more important: It could give you the flash/ambient mix you want.

10-07-2013, 06:52 AM	#123
cream Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 91	Originally posted by Alizarine everything is awesome! 'cept for the 1/180s flash sync. I agree! I will buy it! As soon as I can order it

10-07-2013, 06:52 AM	#124
hypervel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 27	Say, what's that written in the blue line? Can't quite make it out........

10-07-2013, 06:53 AM	#125
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by johnmflores Here you go. I wonder if the page is down because some of the specs are wrong. I sure hope that they don't take RAW video off! Reading the page I thought it was about the JPEG settings.

10-07-2013, 06:55 AM	#126
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by txsbluesguy Does that really saw raw under the video recording quality levels? What raw format would that be? CinemaDNG? Or is that too much to hope for?

10-07-2013, 06:58 AM	#127
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Asahiflex Reading the page I thought it was about the JPEG settings. I tend to agree. There's no mention of a RAW format for video, so I imagine there won't be one, and there's no explicit quality levels mentioned for JPG, so I imagine the quality levels listed are a "general" description not related to video. Wim

10-07-2013, 06:58 AM	#128
cream Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 91	https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/238763-k-3-pictures-fr...ml#post2532151 here are the specs from another thread... ^^

10-07-2013, 07:00 AM	#129
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Ishpuini I tend to agree. There's no mention of a RAW format for video, so I imagine there won't be one, and there's no explicit quality levels mentioned for JPG, so I imagine the quality levels listed are a "general" description not related to video. Wim I thought so too but there is a comma between each of the quality settings and one between Good and RAW.

10-07-2013, 07:02 AM	#130
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by Tanzer Looks like they've brought back support for PEF, in addition to DNG. The top of the range K-series cameras have always had PEF. Q-series don't, and I think some less than top of the range cameras don't.

10-07-2013, 07:05 AM	#131
cream Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 91	Originally posted by johnmflores I thought so too but there is a comma between each of the quality settings and one between Good and RAW. I'm curious about this... RAW would be good, no compression. I think MotionJPG is less compression than x264/h.264 which is heavily compressed... I prefer a 5 minute video that takes 1.5 GB... than a 200MB video that is full of compression artefacts...

10-07-2013, 07:06 AM	#132
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	raw output in video seems an error ...in my opinion....maybe it would be noce to have an active hdmi out port to register externally.

10-07-2013, 07:06 AM	#133
awaldram Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 732	Originally posted by Fototim One third stop may seem little, but that's not always the case. That one third could give you one or two extra meters room to shoot within (people tend to pose better, with a bit of distance from the flash) It would also give me about a second faster recycle time in many situations. Since when in the real world has shutter speed had any effect on flash recycle time ? Flash exposure is controlled via Aperture/ISO and is not related to shutter speed. If you had a flash set to Xsync at 1/1000 it would still use the same power as the same flash exposed @1/60 without ambient light th exposures would also be identical. Originally posted by Fototim But more important: It could give you the flash/ambient mix you want. Again nothing to do with 1/180 Vs 1/250, Flash/ambient is affected flash exposure settings not shutter .

10-07-2013, 07:07 AM	#134
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	Originally posted by cream I'm curious about this... RAW would be good, no compression. I think MotionJPG is less compression than x264/h.264 which is heavily compressed... I prefer a 5 minute video that takes 1.5 GB... than a 200MB video that is full of compression artefacts... agree i cannot believe they just left us with h264...avi is much better. raw would be amazing and would really create a wow in the cinema world. is great also we can disabled age and manual control audio. no more need for external recorder it seems.

10-07-2013, 07:08 AM	#135
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	Originally posted by jonny1986 to kill ambient light especially sun you need at least 8 speedflash...that's why people use profoto or battery powered strobe...because even at 1/250 sync speed you will end up at f 16 and so you need a lot of power no less than 400 watt....i mean to kill seriously... Correct :-) I should have used the term over power. My only excuse is that I'm not a native English speaker.