Pentax K-3 Officially Announced (See our detailed preview here!)

Vylen · 10-15-2013, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

What do you know; if only they were writing "Pentax" they could ignore the changes (e.g. Ricoh's ownership) and pretend it's the same Asahi Optical who made the first Pentax camera.
Or they would find other reasons for complaining, like serial numbers or something.

It's not the right shade of black.

zmohie · 10-15-2013, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Adam

I like your thinking

Thanks Adam

Kunzite · 10-15-2013, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Vylen

It's not the right shade of black.

I wouldn't be surprised.
By the way, the thing with the serials is real, a certain blogger complained that it completely ruined the Limiteds.

arne.oestlund · 10-15-2013, 09:36 AM

This is what we have waited for, for a long time.
Nice!
Cheers
Arne

Dr_who · 10-15-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Vylen

It's not the right shade of black.

The silver edition is also too silver!

Paul the Sunman · 10-20-2013, 02:56 AM

I apologize if this has been discussed in the forms elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. I am trying to understand what causes the 25% reduction in battery life of the K3 compared to the K5II. The batteries are identical, so the K3 must simply draw more power. Possible power hogs include: the new larger LCD screen, the new Sony 24mp CMOS itself (how does power consumption compare with other cameras with this sensor?), the new shutter mechanism (it's rated for twice as many clicks, so it's clearly much changed), the anti-aliasing sensor shift (I can't believe that; it's a tiny fraction of the usual SR), the dual SD card slots, the hugely expanded exposure meter, the Prime III vs Prime II processing engine; ... any other ideas? Since it draws more power, does it run hotter?

RockvilleBob · 10-20-2013, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I apologize if this has been discussed in the forms elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. I am trying to understand what causes the 25% reduction in battery life of the K3 compared to the K5II. The batteries are identical, so the K3 must simply draw more power. Possible power hogs include: the new larger LCD screen, the new Sony 24mp CMOS itself (how does power consumption compare with other cameras with this sensor?), the new shutter mechanism (it's rated for twice as many clicks, so it's clearly much changed), the anti-aliasing sensor shift (I can't believe that; it's a tiny fraction of the usual SR), the dual SD card slots, the hugely expanded exposure meter, the Prime III vs Prime II processing engine; ... any other ideas? Since it draws more power, does it run hotter?

With the battery grip you get over 1000 pictures, take along two extra batteries and you can take 2000 pictures.

D1N0 · 10-20-2013, 04:09 AM

More megapixels mean you need more processing power to develop the pictures. It's not the sensor itself drawing more power, but the prime III. 50% more pixels and 25% reduction in batterylive means the K-3 can shoot more pixels on one charge than the K-5.

Paul the Sunman · 10-20-2013, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

More megapixels mean you need more processing power to develop the pictures. It's not the sensor itself drawing more power, but the prime III. 50% more pixels and 25% reduction in batterylive means the K-3 can shoot more pixels on one charge than the K-5.

Thanks. That seems plausible ... if the processing is the main contributor to power usage. It was never obvious to me whether power usage in a camera is dominated by electrical (e.g. picture processing, LCD illumination) or mechanical (e.g. lens focusing, aperture stop down, mirror raising) processes. The K5/K3 battery life difference suggests the former if you are right.

D1N0 · 10-20-2013, 05:57 AM

It all depends on how you use the camera of course. When you predominantly shoot with liveview the back lcd will be a major power drawer. When you review each pic you take in detail, you will use more power. AF lenses, draw power. I don't know about the difference between screw-drive or in lens AF.

**Clinton** · 10-20-2013, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Dr_who

The silver edition is also too silver!

Pink is the new blue....

**Clinton** · 10-20-2013, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by dcshooter

Talk about cognitive dissonance!

So everything was hunky dory under Hoya who starved the Pentax SLR line of resources and fired its best engineers, but a new parent company that is clearly devoting a lot of money and effort to re-energizing the brand (and is releasing what looks to be the best Pentax camera ever) but has the temerity to put their company name on the bottom rear of the camera is the bad guy?

Heh, Talk about cognitive dissonance? Sounds more like: Talk about wet blankets!

**Clinton** · 10-20-2013, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by Tesla

New accessory: "Pentax" labels to cover up "Ricoh" under the lcd display.

That's not nearly good enough. I'm going to bust out the engraver to remove all brands and then cover up the removal with a nice spray of flat black paint. I will debadge it, making my hunk of awesome look like trailer trash! In fact, I'm going to buy a silver model just to do this with.

If it's good enough for this Canon shooter, maybe it's good enough for you: Why I Mark Off the Canon Logos on My Camera Gear

Den · 10-20-2013, 11:44 AM - **1 Like**

Not sure I would do this on my camera gear but I always remove the car dealer frame on my license plates and replace them with a plain one for the same reasons.

D1N0 · 10-20-2013, 12:43 PM

What did Pentax (or fill in appropriate brand name) ever do for me? Well that's obvious isn't it. Can you make a dslr and lenses?

10-20-2013, 02:56 AM	#141
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,842	K3 battery life I apologize if this has been discussed in the forms elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. I am trying to understand what causes the 25% reduction in battery life of the K3 compared to the K5II. The batteries are identical, so the K3 must simply draw more power. Possible power hogs include: the new larger LCD screen, the new Sony 24mp CMOS itself (how does power consumption compare with other cameras with this sensor?), the new shutter mechanism (it's rated for twice as many clicks, so it's clearly much changed), the anti-aliasing sensor shift (I can't believe that; it's a tiny fraction of the usual SR), the dual SD card slots, the hugely expanded exposure meter, the Prime III vs Prime II processing engine; ... any other ideas? Since it draws more power, does it run hotter?

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10-15-2013, 04:14 AM	#136
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by Kunzite What do you know; if only they were writing "Pentax" they could ignore the changes (e.g. Ricoh's ownership) and pretend it's the same Asahi Optical who made the first Pentax camera. Or they would find other reasons for complaining, like serial numbers or something. It's not the right shade of black.

10-15-2013, 06:14 AM	#137
zmohie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: egypt Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 435	Originally posted by Adam I like your thinking Thanks Adam

10-15-2013, 07:15 AM	#138
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Vylen It's not the right shade of black. I wouldn't be surprised. By the way, the thing with the serials is real, a certain blogger complained that it completely ruined the Limiteds.

10-15-2013, 09:36 AM	#139
arne.oestlund Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Eskilstuna Photos: Albums Posts: 67	This is what we have waited for, for a long time. Nice! Cheers Arne

10-15-2013, 09:50 AM	#140
Dr_who Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 777	Originally posted by Vylen It's not the right shade of black. The silver edition is also too silver!

10-20-2013, 03:12 AM	#142
RockvilleBob Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Lewes DE USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,780	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I apologize if this has been discussed in the forms elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. I am trying to understand what causes the 25% reduction in battery life of the K3 compared to the K5II. The batteries are identical, so the K3 must simply draw more power. Possible power hogs include: the new larger LCD screen, the new Sony 24mp CMOS itself (how does power consumption compare with other cameras with this sensor?), the new shutter mechanism (it's rated for twice as many clicks, so it's clearly much changed), the anti-aliasing sensor shift (I can't believe that; it's a tiny fraction of the usual SR), the dual SD card slots, the hugely expanded exposure meter, the Prime III vs Prime II processing engine; ... any other ideas? Since it draws more power, does it run hotter? With the battery grip you get over 1000 pictures, take along two extra batteries and you can take 2000 pictures.

10-20-2013, 04:09 AM	#143
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	More megapixels mean you need more processing power to develop the pictures. It's not the sensor itself drawing more power, but the prime III. 50% more pixels and 25% reduction in batterylive means the K-3 can shoot more pixels on one charge than the K-5.

10-20-2013, 04:27 AM	#144
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,842	Originally posted by D1N0 More megapixels mean you need more processing power to develop the pictures. It's not the sensor itself drawing more power, but the prime III. 50% more pixels and 25% reduction in batterylive means the K-3 can shoot more pixels on one charge than the K-5. Thanks. That seems plausible ... if the processing is the main contributor to power usage. It was never obvious to me whether power usage in a camera is dominated by electrical (e.g. picture processing, LCD illumination) or mechanical (e.g. lens focusing, aperture stop down, mirror raising) processes. The K5/K3 battery life difference suggests the former if you are right.

10-20-2013, 05:57 AM	#145
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	It all depends on how you use the camera of course. When you predominantly shoot with liveview the back lcd will be a major power drawer. When you review each pic you take in detail, you will use more power. AF lenses, draw power. I don't know about the difference between screw-drive or in lens AF.

10-20-2013, 07:27 AM	#146
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by Dr_who The silver edition is also too silver! Pink is the new blue....

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10-20-2013, 07:28 AM	#147
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by dcshooter Talk about cognitive dissonance! So everything was hunky dory under Hoya who starved the Pentax SLR line of resources and fired its best engineers, but a new parent company that is clearly devoting a lot of money and effort to re-energizing the brand (and is releasing what looks to be the best Pentax camera ever) but has the temerity to put their company name on the bottom rear of the camera is the bad guy? Heh, Talk about cognitive dissonance? Sounds more like: Talk about wet blankets!

10-20-2013, 07:36 AM	#148
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by Tesla New accessory: "Pentax" labels to cover up "Ricoh" under the lcd display. That's not nearly good enough. I'm going to bust out the engraver to remove all brands and then cover up the removal with a nice spray of flat black paint. I will debadge it, making my hunk of awesome look like trailer trash! In fact, I'm going to buy a silver model just to do this with. If it's good enough for this Canon shooter, maybe it's good enough for you: Why I Mark Off the Canon Logos on My Camera Gear

10-20-2013, 11:44 AM - 1 Like	#149
Den Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Washington (State) Posts: 929	Not sure I would do this on my camera gear but I always remove the car dealer frame on my license plates and replace them with a plain one for the same reasons.

10-20-2013, 12:43 PM	#150
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	What did Pentax (or fill in appropriate brand name) ever do for me? Well that's obvious isn't it. Can you make a dslr and lenses?