Ricoh/Pentax patent 16-70/4, 18-70/4-6, 25-350/3.5-6 APS-C lenses

northcoastgreg · 10-11-2013, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras

I'm not so sure about the 25-350, but the 18-70 definitely has fixed lens all over it. Perhaps Ricoh plans to fully modularize the GXR lines and this will be one of the lenses.

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

If they make the 16-70 WR I'm all for it, it's missing!

I agree. I would still like to see a 16-~70ish f4 DA* zoom, as was originally projected on earlier lens roadmaps. But a slightly wider WR replacement of the 17-70 would be fine as well.

D1N0 · 10-11-2013, 09:04 AM

I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html

hongzhibin1987 · 10-11-2013, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html

so a super DA* zoom.....hummm

NickLarsson · 10-11-2013, 09:14 AM

One of them could be a pancake zoom like the sony 16-50 ?

Or indeed for a cheaper Leica X Vario alternative.

JinDesu · 10-11-2013, 09:14 AM

MAYBE IT'S AN XS ZOOM!

*gasp* I'm a genius

froeschle · 10-11-2013, 09:27 AM

Quote:

I tried to searched in Japanese and no Japanese pages pops out. Google translate might help you guys a little bit.

→ Industrial Property Digital Library Home Page
→ Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB (upper left, under Patent & Utility Model)
Insert Kind code: A and Number: 2013-205532
→ Search (bottom)
→ 1. JP,2013-205532,A (left)
→ DETAILED DESCRIPTION (top)

hongzhibin1987 · 10-11-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by froeschle

→ Industrial Property Digital Library Home Page
→ Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB (upper left, under Patent & Utility Model)
Insert Kind code: A and Number: 2013-205532
→ Search (bottom)
→ 1. JP,2013-205532,A (left)
→ DETAILED DESCRIPTION (top)

Jesus are you a spy....
but anyway thanks for providing this!!

philbaum · 10-11-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html

And i think Tamron still sells a 18-270 lens for apsc. I like the new Ricoh/Pentax - new flash, new coating, new lenses, new patents, new camera - activity!

nixcamic · 10-11-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too.

DA Limited Zoom?

D1N0 · 10-11-2013, 10:50 AM

Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens).

nixcamic · 10-11-2013, 11:48 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by D1N0

Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens).

Too bad, 15-45 f/2.8 would have been really interesting as the limited zoom, assuming it would have been really small. It fits the range shown on the roadmap and everything.

On a completely unrelated subject, I finally saw a Q in the flesh; some Japanese tourists had one in my friends coffee shop. Seriously tiny, and felt really well built, it makes sense to me now. Anyone who's hatin' on it needs to actually hold one first.

causey · 10-11-2013, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by nixcamic

Too bad, 15-45 f/2.8 would have been really interesting as the limited zoom, assuming it would have been really small. It fits the range shown on the roadmap and everything.
.

The ltd. zoom in the roadmap appears to be a 20-35mm zoom.

JinDesu · 10-11-2013, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens).

Er, then it must be the 06 lens, since that's the 15-45 F2.8.

**RuiC** · 10-11-2013, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by hongzhibin1987

So the link is here
??16-70/4?18-70/4-6?25-350/3.5-6???????? - ???
I tried to searched in Japanese and no Japanese pages pops out. Google translate might help you guys a little bit.
All of the lenses are APS-C.

Well...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/101629-new-high-ratio-...ml#post1045164

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100033838.pdf

cbope · 10-11-2013, 01:10 PM

I'd be very interested in a 16-70 f/4 that's WR with a DC focus motor.

The old DA 17-70 f/4 is in dire need of an upgrade.

10-11-2013, 09:27 AM	#21
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Quote: I tried to searched in Japanese and no Japanese pages pops out. Google translate might help you guys a little bit. → Industrial Property Digital Library Home Page → Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB (upper left, under Patent & Utility Model) Insert Kind code: A and Number: 2013-205532 → Search (bottom) → 1. JP,2013-205532,A (left) → DETAILED DESCRIPTION (top)

10-11-2013, 10:10 AM	#22
hongzhibin1987 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 464 Original Poster	Originally posted by froeschle → Industrial Property Digital Library Home Page → Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB (upper left, under Patent & Utility Model) Insert Kind code: A and Number: 2013-205532 → Search (bottom) → 1. JP,2013-205532,A (left) → DETAILED DESCRIPTION (top) Jesus are you a spy.... but anyway thanks for providing this!!

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10-11-2013, 09:03 AM	#16
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by VisualDarkness Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras I'm not so sure about the 25-350, but the 18-70 definitely has fixed lens all over it. Perhaps Ricoh plans to fully modularize the GXR lines and this will be one of the lenses. Originally posted by VisualDarkness If they make the 16-70 WR I'm all for it, it's missing! I agree. I would still like to see a 16-~70ish f4 DA* zoom, as was originally projected on earlier lens roadmaps. But a slightly wider WR replacement of the 17-70 would be fine as well.

10-11-2013, 09:04 AM	#17
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html

10-11-2013, 09:08 AM	#18
hongzhibin1987 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 464 Original Poster	Originally posted by D1N0 I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html so a super DA* zoom.....hummm

10-11-2013, 09:14 AM	#19
NickLarsson Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,390	One of them could be a pancake zoom like the sony 16-50 ? Or indeed for a cheaper Leica X Vario alternative.

10-11-2013, 09:14 AM	#20
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	MAYBE IT'S AN XS ZOOM! gasp I'm a genius

10-11-2013, 10:26 AM	#23
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by D1N0 I think the 18-70 is a new kitlens, we've seen the 25-350 before: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/129284-pentax-files-pa...ocus-lens.html And i think Tamron still sells a 18-270 lens for apsc. I like the new Ricoh/Pentax - new flash, new coating, new lenses, new patents, new camera - activity!

10-11-2013, 10:39 AM	#24
nixcamic Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Guatemala Posts: 354	Originally posted by Fogel70 I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too. DA Limited Zoom?

10-11-2013, 10:50 AM	#25
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens).

10-11-2013, 11:48 AM - 1 Like	#26
nixcamic Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Guatemala Posts: 354	Originally posted by D1N0 Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens). Too bad, 15-45 f/2.8 would have been really interesting as the limited zoom, assuming it would have been really small. It fits the range shown on the roadmap and everything. On a completely unrelated subject, I finally saw a Q in the flesh; some Japanese tourists had one in my friends coffee shop. Seriously tiny, and felt really well built, it makes sense to me now. Anyone who's hatin' on it needs to actually hold one first.

10-11-2013, 12:01 PM	#27
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by nixcamic Too bad, 15-45 f/2.8 would have been really interesting as the limited zoom, assuming it would have been really small. It fits the range shown on the roadmap and everything. . The ltd. zoom in the roadmap appears to be a 20-35mm zoom.

10-11-2013, 12:25 PM	#28
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by D1N0 Google Translate another source for four lenses. the 15-45 has a 1/1.7" image circle, so probably for the q (too bad because now it is a 2.8 fixed aperture lens). Er, then it must be the 06 lens, since that's the 15-45 F2.8.

10-11-2013, 12:42 PM	#29
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by hongzhibin1987 So the link is here ??16-70/4?18-70/4-6?25-350/3.5-6???????? - ??? I tried to searched in Japanese and no Japanese pages pops out. Google translate might help you guys a little bit. All of the lenses are APS-C. Well... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/101629-new-high-ratio-...ml#post1045164 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100033838.pdf

10-11-2013, 01:10 PM	#30
cbope Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Helsinki Posts: 664	I'd be very interested in a 16-70 f/4 that's WR with a DC focus motor. The old DA 17-70 f/4 is in dire need of an upgrade.