Ricoh/Pentax patent 16-70/4, 18-70/4-6, 25-350/3.5-6 APS-C lenses

**hongzhibin1987** · 10-11-2013, 07:53 AM - **1 Like**

So the link is here
??16-70/4?18-70/4-6?25-350/3.5-6???????? - ???
I tried to searched in Japanese and no Japanese pages pops out. Google translate might help you guys a little bit.
All of the lenses are APS-C.

Well...

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rawr · 10-11-2013, 08:20 AM

I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe.

JinDesu · 10-11-2013, 08:25 AM

Er 25-350? That's quite the odd number.

VisualDarkness · 10-11-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe.

If they make the 16-70 WR I'm all for it, it's missing! 18-70 F4-6 sounds really weird and the only thing I can think of is some kind of smallish limitedish setup.

Caat · 10-11-2013, 08:28 AM

I have a feeling that I've seen the 25-350 on these forums before

Asahiflex · 10-11-2013, 08:29 AM - **1 Like**

Please bear in mind that those numbers are usually "modified" for marketing purposes. So suddenly 25mm becomes 24mm and f/6 becomes f/5.6.

VisualDarkness · 10-11-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Er 25-350? That's quite the odd number.

Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras, then they make some kind of sense.

JinDesu · 10-11-2013, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras, then they make some kind of sense.

Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera...

Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well.

Fogel70 · 10-11-2013, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe.

16-70/4 is probably a replacement for DA 17-70/4, and might be WR and use DC motor.
18-70/4-6 sound like a new kit lens with WR and hopefully with DC motor too.

I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too.

Agree, 25-350 seems odd for a APS-C lens, and would make more sense for FF.

VisualDarkness · 10-11-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera...

Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well.

Well, it would make a nice safari bridge camera or a good way to provide proof for birdwatchers.

thibs · 10-11-2013, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera...

Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well.

Mmm indeed but Canon still did sold (still sells? I dunno) an EF 35-350 which was popular (but soft if I remember well).

**hongzhibin1987** · 10-11-2013, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe.

None of them covers FF sensor.

**hongzhibin1987** · 10-11-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Please bear in mind that those numbers are usually "modified" for marketing purposes. So suddenly 25mm becomes 24mm and f/6 becomes f/5.6.

thanks for mentioning it.

**hongzhibin1987** · 10-11-2013, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by JinDesu

Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera...

Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well.

From my understanding this can be an alternative to Siggy's 50-500. Not exactly the similar, but probably same ieda?

**hongzhibin1987** · 10-11-2013, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Fogel70

16-70/4 is probably a replacement for DA 17-70/4, and might be WR and use DC motor.
18-70/4-6 sound like a new kit lens with WR and hopefully with DC motor too.

I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too.

Agree, 25-350 seems odd for a APS-C lens, and would make more sense for FF.

The problem is that, the focus height of 25-350 is about 14mm, which couldn't cover FF's 21mm. So it is still a APSC lens.

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Asahiflex Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,754	Please bear in mind that those numbers are usually "modified" for marketing purposes. So suddenly 25mm becomes 24mm and f/6 becomes f/5.6.

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VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,441	Originally posted by JinDesu Er 25-350? That's quite the odd number. Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras, then they make some kind of sense.

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JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,632	Originally posted by VisualDarkness Well, both that lens and the 18-70 could be lenses for fixed lens cameras, then they make some kind of sense. Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera... Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well.

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Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 2,133	Originally posted by rawr I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe. 16-70/4 is probably a replacement for DA 17-70/4, and might be WR and use DC motor. 18-70/4-6 sound like a new kit lens with WR and hopefully with DC motor too. I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too. Agree, 25-350 seems odd for a APS-C lens, and would make more sense for FF.

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hongzhibin1987 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 450 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr I don't see the logic in either a 16-70/4 or 18-70/4-6 in APS-C, since there is already a decent APS-C 17-70 f4 in the catalogue. If they were FF lenses, maybe. None of them covers FF sensor.

10-11-2013, 09:01 AM	#13
hongzhibin1987 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 450 Original Poster	Originally posted by Asahiflex Please bear in mind that those numbers are usually "modified" for marketing purposes. So suddenly 25mm becomes 24mm and f/6 becomes f/5.6. thanks for mentioning it.

10-11-2013, 09:02 AM	#14
hongzhibin1987 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 450 Original Poster	Originally posted by JinDesu Very good point, but APS-C for the 25-350? 25mm (or even 24) is a bit too long for an APS-C camera as a walk-around fixed lens camera... Not that I'm complaining if Pentax is coming out with a 24-350mm superzoom that performs well. From my understanding this can be an alternative to Siggy's 50-500. Not exactly the similar, but probably same ieda?

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hongzhibin1987 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 450 Original Poster	Originally posted by Fogel70 16-70/4 is probably a replacement for DA 17-70/4, and might be WR and use DC motor. 18-70/4-6 sound like a new kit lens with WR and hopefully with DC motor too. I see a diagram for 15-45/2.8-3.5 lens too. Agree, 25-350 seems odd for a APS-C lens, and would make more sense for FF. The problem is that, the focus height of 25-350 is about 14mm, which couldn't cover FF's 21mm. So it is still a APSC lens.