Something else coming before year end...

robjmitchell · 10-12-2013, 04:34 PM

The way the APS-C birding brigade from canikon are talking about the lack of pro-aps-c bodies the 400ish zoom would be ideal for bringing more people over to the K3.
The limited zoom would seem to be a good choice as a FF lens, so that there is something widish for if/when the FF body comes along.
The 16/17-70/85 (hopefully HD & AW)would be great pairing with the 60-250.

noser · 10-12-2013, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by elpolodiablo

If it's not related to K-3, something on the 645D side?

Could be; most of the 'well sourced' rumours that were circulating in the spring have now happened, except notably the 645D II wasn't announced... yet. But all the other bits that were whispered about are here; a new low end; a new flagship, a WR flash, some glass...

Given the short time between the K-7 (2009) and original 645D (2010), which borrowed a big chunk of electronics and software from the K-7... would it be safe to assume that the 645D-II would have been developed at the same time as the K-3, to share costs? Or developed one phase behind; such that as designs for the subcomponents were frozen for the K3, the 645 team could then take them and see what could be done... given the larger files, etc. I wonder if they'll ever do SR for MF... what would it be +/- 3mm of displacement? That's a whole lot!

Wishful thinking, I guess. I don't even know if a newer sensor exists that would be available, or if the old sensor is still being made post-Kodak. I wonder if the newer Prime + firmware would make the existing sensor feel any snappier?

**ramseybuckeye** · 10-12-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by woodywesty

Or... maybe the telephoto zoom out to 370 or 380 ?? But a teleconvertor would sell like hot cakes!

Hopefully both of those, and that long zoom is WR.

rawr · 10-12-2013, 04:53 PM

A K-300 - the K-3, but with no visible focus points, no WR, and which runs on AA's and costs 40% less?

LamyTax · 10-12-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Lars

Updated 645D perhaps / Lars

Any speculation beyond this post is pointless

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chromo · 10-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Counting the chickens are we ?...lol

p38arover · 10-12-2013, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Studer

We already have snow here in Switzerland.

And I'm sitting here having a cool drink, reading the forum with my iPad, in 31 deg C warmth trying to decide if I should go for a bike ride before it reaches the expected 36 deg C.

**Fontan** · 10-12-2013, 06:49 PM

Me thinks it is full of poop.

penguinsoda · 10-12-2013, 06:56 PM

I'm still wishing for an entry level camera with an articulating LCD screen....

Pheo · 10-12-2013, 07:07 PM

The rep was mentioning that Ricoh have a much different approach to product development, with a single person having responsibility to project manage a product through to production. Apparently a slightly more relaxed approach was taken.

sam-joseph · 10-12-2013, 07:24 PM - **1 Like**

I reckon the next thing out of Ricoh will be a two-fingered salute, for all the whingers who still aren't happy with what's come out in recent months (K500, K50, K3 etc.)
But while we're on the subject, I'd like a few more lenses in the "affordable but good" range. Wide angle, long telephoto etc.

Regards

Shanti · 10-12-2013, 07:49 PM

what wide angel zoom? may have missed something...getting ready to get the 12-24 but maybe a wait is in order???

**rbefly** · 10-12-2013, 07:58 PM - **1 Like**

Since it's almost 2014, how about a lens (size) Pentax hasn't produced in many years, in fact the last one was introduced in 2007. It is one of the most popular Nikon, Canon and 3rd party sizes, useful for a wide range of outdoor events and sure to be a good seller if the price is fair and in line with the competition.
An 80-200mm f/2.8 ED IF HD WR. No power zoom, thank you. I'd guess $1,000-$1,200 range. Silver would be nice, with big 'PENTAX' lettering on the hood.
JMO, YMMV
Ron

6BQ5 · 10-12-2013, 08:02 PM

I'll add some fuel here.

I visited my local camera shop and I was talking with the sales associate about how wonderful the K-3 is on paper. His response?

"Yep, looks like Pentax got their first camera out."

Wait!! Is there a second? The conversation got real quiet and we started talking about M42 lenses.

PePe · 10-13-2013, 01:39 AM

I have no insider information, but I could very well imagine 645D II could be the next body to be introduced. To a great extent the 645D was based on the technologies developed for the K-7 and K-5. Now the competition is catching on the 645D, and Pentax has a new technology platform. In a way it would be logical to build on this, and update the flagship of the brand.

10-12-2013, 07:58 PM - 1 Like	#28
rbefly Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Photos: Albums Posts: 2,030	Maybe.... Since it's almost 2014, how about a lens (size) Pentax hasn't produced in many years, in fact the last one was introduced in 2007. It is one of the most popular Nikon, Canon and 3rd party sizes, useful for a wide range of outdoor events and sure to be a good seller if the price is fair and in line with the competition. An 80-200mm f/2.8 ED IF HD WR. No power zoom, thank you. I'd guess $1,000-$1,200 range. Silver would be nice, with big 'PENTAX' lettering on the hood. JMO, YMMV Ron

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10-12-2013, 04:34 PM	#16
robjmitchell Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Aus Posts: 1,776	The way the APS-C birding brigade from canikon are talking about the lack of pro-aps-c bodies the 400ish zoom would be ideal for bringing more people over to the K3. The limited zoom would seem to be a good choice as a FF lens, so that there is something widish for if/when the FF body comes along. The 16/17-70/85 (hopefully HD & AW)would be great pairing with the 60-250.

10-12-2013, 04:50 PM	#17
noser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Calgary, AB CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 292	Originally posted by elpolodiablo If it's not related to K-3, something on the 645D side? Could be; most of the 'well sourced' rumours that were circulating in the spring have now happened, except notably the 645D II wasn't announced... yet. But all the other bits that were whispered about are here; a new low end; a new flagship, a WR flash, some glass... Given the short time between the K-7 (2009) and original 645D (2010), which borrowed a big chunk of electronics and software from the K-7... would it be safe to assume that the 645D-II would have been developed at the same time as the K-3, to share costs? Or developed one phase behind; such that as designs for the subcomponents were frozen for the K3, the 645 team could then take them and see what could be done... given the larger files, etc. I wonder if they'll ever do SR for MF... what would it be +/- 3mm of displacement? That's a whole lot! Wishful thinking, I guess. I don't even know if a newer sensor exists that would be available, or if the old sensor is still being made post-Kodak. I wonder if the newer Prime + firmware would make the existing sensor feel any snappier?

10-12-2013, 04:52 PM	#18
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,295	Originally posted by woodywesty Or... maybe the telephoto zoom out to 370 or 380 ?? But a teleconvertor would sell like hot cakes! Hopefully both of those, and that long zoom is WR.

10-12-2013, 04:53 PM	#19
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A K-300 - the K-3, but with no visible focus points, no WR, and which runs on AA's and costs 40% less?

10-12-2013, 04:55 PM	#20
LamyTax Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 376	Originally posted by Lars Updated 645D perhaps / Lars Any speculation beyond this post is pointless .

10-12-2013, 05:02 PM	#21
chromo Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: North Coast NSW Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 581	Counting the chickens are we ?...lol

10-12-2013, 05:09 PM	#22
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Originally posted by Studer We already have snow here in Switzerland. And I'm sitting here having a cool drink, reading the forum with my iPad, in 31 deg C warmth trying to decide if I should go for a bike ride before it reaches the expected 36 deg C.

10-12-2013, 06:49 PM	#23
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Me thinks it is full of poop.

10-12-2013, 06:56 PM	#24
penguinsoda Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: So Cal Desert Posts: 124	I'm still wishing for an entry level camera with an articulating LCD screen....

10-12-2013, 07:07 PM	#25
Pheo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brighton, United Kingdom Photos: Gallery Posts: 311 Original Poster	The rep was mentioning that Ricoh have a much different approach to product development, with a single person having responsibility to project manage a product through to production. Apparently a slightly more relaxed approach was taken.

10-12-2013, 07:24 PM - 1 Like	#26
sam-joseph Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newcastle, NSW, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,086	I reckon the next thing out of Ricoh will be a two-fingered salute, for all the whingers who still aren't happy with what's come out in recent months (K500, K50, K3 etc.) But while we're on the subject, I'd like a few more lenses in the "affordable but good" range. Wide angle, long telephoto etc. Regards

10-12-2013, 07:49 PM	#27
Shanti Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Western Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 927	what wide angel zoom? may have missed something...getting ready to get the 12-24 but maybe a wait is in order???

10-12-2013, 08:02 PM	#29
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	I'll add some fuel here. I visited my local camera shop and I was talking with the sales associate about how wonderful the K-3 is on paper. His response? "Yep, looks like Pentax got their first camera out." Wait!! Is there a second? The conversation got real quiet and we started talking about M42 lenses.

10-13-2013, 01:39 AM	#30
PePe Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 597	I have no insider information, but I could very well imagine 645D II could be the next body to be introduced. To a great extent the 645D was based on the technologies developed for the K-7 and K-5. Now the competition is catching on the 645D, and Pentax has a new technology platform. In a way it would be logical to build on this, and update the flagship of the brand.