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**filoxophy** · 11-01-2013, 09:52 AM

Was hoping for something more the size of the 35 Ltd than the 31 Ltd, but hey I guess there's no free lunch.

C'mon, Ricoh, let's get some more images from different angles!

I really can't see a retractable hood in the pics...someone said the red ring is the tip, but I think it just looks like a red ring. Also, we need a shot of the front and back to see if the DC WR rumors are true or not. Neither are "must-have" for me, but I think it would be a good call for Ricoh to add these features to help justify the price they want to sell it for!

causey · 11-01-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

I sure hope not, but fear that you are right.

For that money you can buy a roundtrip to many places in Asia where you'll probably get more interesting images than if you buy this lens and stay at home (just talking about where I live though)

Yeah, I know... I have been waiting for this, and I'll wait for the release, but something is telling me I'm going to end up buying the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 instead. Sure, a different (and heavier) animal, but which yields much more utility for the buck; not to mention 17-50/2.8 is probably better for my zoom needs.

If Ricoh sold this new sexy ltd. zoom for about $800, I'd go for it, but given that the HD version of the DA 21mm (which has neither DC motor nor WR) is priced at $700, I think any price below $1000 would be a kind of miracle.

Andi Lo · 11-01-2013, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by causey

Yeah, I know... I have been waiting for this, and I'll wait for the release, but something is telling me I'm going to end up buying the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 instead. Sure, a different (and heavier) animal, but which yields much more utility for the buck; not to mention 17-50/2.8 is probably better for my zoom needs.

If Ricoh sold this new sexy ltd. zoom for about $800, I'd go for it, but given that the HD version of the DA 21mm (which has neither DC motor nor WR) is priced at $700, I think any price below $1000 would be a kind of miracle.

I was in a similar position and ended up getting the Tammy 28-75. I think if you haven't got one 2.8 zoom, and think it might be useful for you, you should have one in your kit in some form after purchasing the most necessary primes.

**Rorschach** · 11-01-2013, 10:53 AM

Well, if it's not weather resistant, it might as well not exist: not interested. But let's wait and see.

VisualDarkness · 11-01-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Rorschach

Well, if it's not weather resistant, it might as well not exist: not interested. But let's wait and see.

Yeah, WR makes it a nice hiking/adventure lens but without WR it won't bring much more compared to other lenses.

**grahame** · 11-01-2013, 12:39 PM

It really looks like a Takumar on a M42-NEX adapter. Not bad, pretty good actually.

Apapukas · 11-01-2013, 02:05 PM

The design is absolutely fantastic, looks better than any other Ltd.

DC and WR is really cool too (I wonder why they didn't put them in the HD Ltd's).

I believe it should be a good buy for 700-800$.

Transit · 11-01-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by repaap

Well, no I'm not sure. But I could almost swear

.

For me any FF thingy is irrevelant and it is unlikely to be like that IMO. I like this range in APS-C mm.

come on...that's crazy talk

Transit · 11-01-2013, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by grahame

It really looks like a Takumar on a M42-NEX adapter. Not bad, pretty good actually.

oh yes the Takumar wave in the ring...sweeet...I wonder who Ricoh re-employed ?
I wonder if it is more er linear than the DA21

RonHendriks1966 · 11-01-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by filoxophy

Was hoping for something more the size of the 35 Ltd than the 31 Ltd, but hey I guess there's no free lunch.

C'mon, Ricoh, let's get some more images from different angles!

I really can't see a retractable hood in the pics...someone said the red ring is the tip, but I think it just looks like a red ring. Also, we need a shot of the front and back to see if the DC WR rumors are true or not. Neither are "must-have" for me, but I think it would be a good call for Ricoh to add these features to help justify the price they want to sell it for!

Maybe it says Ricoh on the front!

Uluru · 11-01-2013, 03:17 PM

A theoretical question:
Imagine the same characteristics of this lens, but for an APS-C mirrorless, collapsible zoom camera. Would that be possible to make?
So, an APS-C, GR-style, short register mirrorless, collapsible zoom, 20-40 f/2.8-4.
Any thoughts?

Paul the Sunman · 11-01-2013, 03:20 PM

An interesting side issue with this lens is how it appeared on the lens roadmap. Planned zooms are indicated by green bands with fuzzy ends. Judging by the most recent roadmap, I would have expected this DA Ltd to be something like 22-38, but it's turned out to be a full 20-40. How does that bode for the planned DA Wide Zoom; 10-30? That would be remarkable. Very interested to see the final specifications of the DA Zoom (16-85?) and DA Tele Zoom (120-380?) as well.

**K6-III** · 11-01-2013, 03:30 PM

That is one sexy lens!

twitch · 11-01-2013, 03:37 PM

Even though it's a very nice looking lens I don't think its desirable at all, not to me anyway. Neither fast nor flexible.

nomadkng · 11-01-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by mattb123

I've always thought a 15-40 wr Ltd would be nice because I carry just the 15 and 40 quite a bit. This would be fairly similar. Carrying this and the 15 as a compact kit might be pretty sweet.

I have the DA15 and Sigma 20-40, it's a great combo for landscape

I hope the DA* 20-40 isn't too awesome, I love my Sigma. Would hate for LBA to kick in again, I've finally beat it into remission....

11-01-2013, 03:20 PM	#177
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,847	Aperture range on Lens Roadmap An interesting side issue with this lens is how it appeared on the lens roadmap. Planned zooms are indicated by green bands with fuzzy ends. Judging by the most recent roadmap, I would have expected this DA Ltd to be something like 22-38, but it's turned out to be a full 20-40. How does that bode for the planned DA Wide Zoom; 10-30? That would be remarkable. Very interested to see the final specifications of the DA Zoom (16-85?) and DA Tele Zoom (120-380?) as well.

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11-01-2013, 09:52 AM	#166
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133	Was hoping for something more the size of the 35 Ltd than the 31 Ltd, but hey I guess there's no free lunch. C'mon, Ricoh, let's get some more images from different angles! I really can't see a retractable hood in the pics...someone said the red ring is the tip, but I think it just looks like a red ring. Also, we need a shot of the front and back to see if the DC WR rumors are true or not. Neither are "must-have" for me, but I think it would be a good call for Ricoh to add these features to help justify the price they want to sell it for!

11-01-2013, 10:27 AM	#167
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by Andi Lo I sure hope not, but fear that you are right. For that money you can buy a roundtrip to many places in Asia where you'll probably get more interesting images than if you buy this lens and stay at home (just talking about where I live though) Yeah, I know... I have been waiting for this, and I'll wait for the release, but something is telling me I'm going to end up buying the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 instead. Sure, a different (and heavier) animal, but which yields much more utility for the buck; not to mention 17-50/2.8 is probably better for my zoom needs. If Ricoh sold this new sexy ltd. zoom for about $800, I'd go for it, but given that the HD version of the DA 21mm (which has neither DC motor nor WR) is priced at $700, I think any price below $1000 would be a kind of miracle.

11-01-2013, 10:49 AM	#168
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	Originally posted by causey Yeah, I know... I have been waiting for this, and I'll wait for the release, but something is telling me I'm going to end up buying the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 instead. Sure, a different (and heavier) animal, but which yields much more utility for the buck; not to mention 17-50/2.8 is probably better for my zoom needs. If Ricoh sold this new sexy ltd. zoom for about $800, I'd go for it, but given that the HD version of the DA 21mm (which has neither DC motor nor WR) is priced at $700, I think any price below $1000 would be a kind of miracle. I was in a similar position and ended up getting the Tammy 28-75. I think if you haven't got one 2.8 zoom, and think it might be useful for you, you should have one in your kit in some form after purchasing the most necessary primes.

11-01-2013, 10:53 AM	#169
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Well, if it's not weather resistant, it might as well not exist: not interested. But let's wait and see.

11-01-2013, 10:57 AM	#170
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by Rorschach Well, if it's not weather resistant, it might as well not exist: not interested. But let's wait and see. Yeah, WR makes it a nice hiking/adventure lens but without WR it won't bring much more compared to other lenses.

11-01-2013, 12:39 PM	#171
grahame Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,041	It really looks like a Takumar on a M42-NEX adapter. Not bad, pretty good actually.

11-01-2013, 02:05 PM	#172
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	The design is absolutely fantastic, looks better than any other Ltd. DC and WR is really cool too (I wonder why they didn't put them in the HD Ltd's). I believe it should be a good buy for 700-800$.

11-01-2013, 02:09 PM	#173
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by repaap Well, no I'm not sure. But I could almost swear . For me any FF thingy is irrevelant and it is unlikely to be like that IMO. I like this range in APS-C mm. come on...that's crazy talk

11-01-2013, 02:12 PM	#174
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by grahame It really looks like a Takumar on a M42-NEX adapter. Not bad, pretty good actually. oh yes the Takumar wave in the ring...sweeet...I wonder who Ricoh re-employed ? I wonder if it is more er linear than the DA21

11-01-2013, 03:16 PM	#175
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by filoxophy Was hoping for something more the size of the 35 Ltd than the 31 Ltd, but hey I guess there's no free lunch. C'mon, Ricoh, let's get some more images from different angles! I really can't see a retractable hood in the pics...someone said the red ring is the tip, but I think it just looks like a red ring. Also, we need a shot of the front and back to see if the DC WR rumors are true or not. Neither are "must-have" for me, but I think it would be a good call for Ricoh to add these features to help justify the price they want to sell it for! Maybe it says Ricoh on the front!

11-01-2013, 03:17 PM	#176
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	A theoretical question: Imagine the same characteristics of this lens, but for an APS-C mirrorless, collapsible zoom camera. Would that be possible to make? So, an APS-C, GR-style, short register mirrorless, collapsible zoom, 20-40 f/2.8-4. Any thoughts?

11-01-2013, 03:30 PM	#178
K6-III Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Montreal Posts: 222	That is one sexy lens!

11-01-2013, 03:37 PM	#179
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Even though it's a very nice looking lens I don't think its desirable at all, not to me anyway. Neither fast nor flexible.

11-01-2013, 03:58 PM	#180
nomadkng Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,448	Originally posted by mattb123 I've always thought a 15-40 wr Ltd would be nice because I carry just the 15 and 40 quite a bit. This would be fairly similar. Carrying this and the 15 as a compact kit might be pretty sweet. I have the DA15 and Sigma 20-40, it's a great combo for landscape I hope the DA* 20-40 isn't too awesome, I love my Sigma. Would hate for LBA to kick in again, I've finally beat it into remission....

The DA limited is 20-40? and WR?!

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