The DA limited is 20-40? and WR?!

gazonk · 01-20-2014, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by ogl

All m4/3 lenses have huge distortion in RAW.

Many, but not all. The nice Olympus 45mm/1.8, for instance (a lens which IMHO gives tremendous "bang for the buck") is one of the exceptions: Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 45mm f/1.8 - Review / Lens Test - Analysis

ogl · 01-20-2014, 06:28 AM

It's not pancake. But even 45 mm has pincushion distortion 1.02%

gazonk · 01-20-2014, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by ogl

It's not pancake. But even 45 mm has pincushion distortion 1.02%

That's not exactly "huge", but of course it's worse than e.g. the DA70 (which I guess is the closest Pentax lens, it's equivalent to a 53mm/1.8 on m4/3) at 0.5%.

Uluru · 01-20-2014, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by ogl

All m4/3 lenses have huge distortion in RAW.

Now you know why Olympus engineers try their best to deliver perfect in camera JPEGs.
Which is then praised by everyone, of course, despite sub-optimal lens quality.

By that remark, Pentax lenses should cost twice as much as they are optically of higher quality.

Iberia · 01-21-2014, 02:26 AM

Geometric distortion isn't the only parameter that defines optical quality…

By the way, here's another contender for the "between Leica and Nikon" niche, Fuji's response to the OM-D E-M1:

34,5mm f1,4…

R

Sinister · 01-21-2014, 02:40 AM

nope, 23mm attached

Iberia · 01-21-2014, 02:52 AM

35mm FOV in FF, something that unfortunately I cannot buy for my Pentax DSLRs…

R

Sinister · 01-21-2014, 03:45 AM

okay, that's true

Whish they'd develop a comparable lens. In general Fuji is developing a pretty interesting lineup (14mm, 23mm, 56mm, the two F2.8 Zooms).

Ishpuini · 01-21-2014, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Iberia

35mm FOV in FF, something that unfortunately I cannot buy for my Pentax DSLRs…

R

Samyang does make a 24mm f/1.4 which is available for Pentax. That's close isn't it?

Wim

Sinister · 01-21-2014, 05:28 AM

Well, i've heard that the aperture is optimistically adjusted.... it is really a pity that the lens list on camerasize.com is rather limited for comparison pursoses.

**Zygonyx** · 01-21-2014, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Iberia

Geometric distortion isn't the only parameter that defines optical quality…

By the way, here's another contender for the "between Leica and Nikon" niche, Fuji's response to the OM-D E-M1:

34,5mm f1,4…

R

Fuji's last joke :
- ridiculously unergonomic,
- one WR lens to be available,
- K-3 price....

Kunzite · 01-21-2014, 06:01 AM

And people are ecstatic about that

Iberia · 01-21-2014, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Fuji's last joke :
- ridiculously unergonomic,

Possibly, I have yet to hold one…but the back dials and buttons position is similar to that of my K-5.

Originally posted by Zygonyx

- one WR lens to be available

I would rather have a set of lenses with the right FOV than WR in a set of lenses that are of no use to me.

But then I don't have any emotional feelings about my camera, my lenses or their manufacturer/brand name.
They're tools for a certain task, just as a pencil or a screwdriver…

R

**Zygonyx** · 01-21-2014, 07:29 AM

Sorry, but did you figure out how you would use all these Fuji wheels and buttons ?
Blocked control wheels for sensitivity and speed ?
Video shooting, unless having delicate piano-fingers ?
Impossible to reach exposure matrix control lever?

=> Spending more time to look and search and manipulate, than to shoot through the EVF, doesn't appear to be of any photographical efficiency... but that's mho.

cali92rs · 01-21-2014, 08:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

And people are ecstatic about that

So...lets not give the people what they want?

01-21-2014, 02:26 AM	#1190
Iberia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 135	Geometric distortion isn't the only parameter that defines optical quality… By the way, here's another contender for the "between Leica and Nikon" niche, Fuji's response to the OM-D E-M1: 34,5mm f1,4… R Last edited by Iberia; 01-21-2014 at 02:26 AM. Reason: typo

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01-20-2014, 05:32 AM	#1186
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,660	Originally posted by ogl All m4/3 lenses have huge distortion in RAW. Many, but not all. The nice Olympus 45mm/1.8, for instance (a lens which IMHO gives tremendous "bang for the buck") is one of the exceptions: Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 45mm f/1.8 - Review / Lens Test - Analysis

01-20-2014, 06:28 AM	#1187
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,385	It's not pancake. But even 45 mm has pincushion distortion 1.02%

01-20-2014, 08:16 AM	#1188
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,660	Originally posted by ogl It's not pancake. But even 45 mm has pincushion distortion 1.02% That's not exactly "huge", but of course it's worse than e.g. the DA70 (which I guess is the closest Pentax lens, it's equivalent to a 53mm/1.8 on m4/3) at 0.5%.

01-20-2014, 05:02 PM	#1189
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by ogl All m4/3 lenses have huge distortion in RAW. Now you know why Olympus engineers try their best to deliver perfect in camera JPEGs. Which is then praised by everyone, of course, despite sub-optimal lens quality. By that remark, Pentax lenses should cost twice as much as they are optically of higher quality.

01-21-2014, 02:40 AM	#1191
Sinister Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,028	nope, 23mm attached

01-21-2014, 02:52 AM	#1192
Iberia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 135	35mm FOV in FF, something that unfortunately I cannot buy for my Pentax DSLRs… R

01-21-2014, 03:45 AM	#1193
Sinister Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,028	okay, that's true Whish they'd develop a comparable lens. In general Fuji is developing a pretty interesting lineup (14mm, 23mm, 56mm, the two F2.8 Zooms).

01-21-2014, 05:09 AM	#1194
Ishpuini Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,200	Originally posted by Iberia 35mm FOV in FF, something that unfortunately I cannot buy for my Pentax DSLRs… R Samyang does make a 24mm f/1.4 which is available for Pentax. That's close isn't it? Wim

01-21-2014, 05:28 AM	#1195
Sinister Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,028	Well, i've heard that the aperture is optimistically adjusted.... it is really a pity that the lens list on camerasize.com is rather limited for comparison pursoses.

01-21-2014, 05:46 AM	#1196
Zygonyx Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 3,808	Originally posted by Iberia Geometric distortion isn't the only parameter that defines optical quality… By the way, here's another contender for the "between Leica and Nikon" niche, Fuji's response to the OM-D E-M1: 34,5mm f1,4… R Fuji's last joke : - ridiculously unergonomic, - one WR lens to be available, - K-3 price....

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01-21-2014, 06:01 AM	#1197
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 13,677	And people are ecstatic about that

01-21-2014, 06:10 AM	#1198
Iberia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 135	Originally posted by Zygonyx Fuji's last joke : - ridiculously unergonomic, Possibly, I have yet to hold one…but the back dials and buttons position is similar to that of my K-5. Originally posted by Zygonyx - one WR lens to be available I would rather have a set of lenses with the right FOV than WR in a set of lenses that are of no use to me. But then I don't have any emotional feelings about my camera, my lenses or their manufacturer/brand name. They're tools for a certain task, just as a pencil or a screwdriver… R

01-21-2014, 07:29 AM	#1199
Zygonyx Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 3,808	Sorry, but did you figure out how you would use all these Fuji wheels and buttons ? Blocked control wheels for sensitivity and speed ? Video shooting, unless having delicate piano-fingers ? Impossible to reach exposure matrix control lever? => Spending more time to look and search and manipulate, than to shoot through the EVF, doesn't appear to be of any photographical efficiency... but that's mho.

01-21-2014, 08:33 AM - 1 Like	#1200
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Kunzite And people are ecstatic about that So...lets not give the people what they want?