The DA limited is 20-40? and WR?!

**Rorschach** · 11-01-2013, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by repaap

I can see a liitle red tint od that red O ring. Ps. In other thread there was a patent for 20-40/2.8-4 DC WR limited lens. So it might be from that.

Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens?

Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come.

northcoastgreg · 11-01-2013, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Ayoh

Unless it is sharp across the frame from max. aperture I do not see the appeal of this lens. Looks to be almost the same size as the 18-55mm WR. Slow aperture, narrow focal range. Quite likely expensive. What's the attraction aside from the nice build quality?

Compact zoom, limited IQ. Anyone who wants limited or star IQ for landscapes, architecture, or anything not requiring narrow DF in a small package will find this lens useful, maybe even mandatory. If it weren't for the fact that I'm a bit cash strapped right now and that I already own the FA 20-35, I would get this lens the day it came out, and it would immediately become my most used lens in this range. This and the DA 15 could be used for 90%+ of my landscape shots.

repaap · 11-01-2013, 07:41 AM

I already wish that I'd have enough money for this. If it is great lens, you will see few lenses hitting to marketplace from me. I like to shoot from 20-40 mm. And I hahe few lenses on that range already. I don't mind of moderate speed of this lens. For me it looks good.

repaap · 11-01-2013, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Rorschach

Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens?

Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come.

Well, no I'm not sure. But I could almost swear

.

For me any FF thingy is irrevelant and it is unlikely to be like that IMO. I like this range in APS-C mm.

hongzhibin1987 · 11-01-2013, 07:47 AM

this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv.
but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr...
hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted.

Andi Lo · 11-01-2013, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Rorschach

Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens?

Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come.

From the size it is very unlikely to be FF compatible. The DC motor is bigger than traditional AF, and all FF lenses of this range is much bigger (see tokina 20-35 and tamron 17-35.)

repaap · 11-01-2013, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by hongzhibin1987

this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv.
but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr...
hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted.

And you can add to that list: F 28/2.8, K/A24/.28, FA20/2.8

Oh, and DA 21/3.2

repaap · 11-01-2013, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Andi Lo

From the size it is very unlikely to be FF compatible. The DC motor is bigger than traditional AF, and all FF lenses of this range is much bigger (see tokina 20-35 and tamron 17-35.)

I have Tokina AT-X 235/2.8. And it is great lens. But it is huge. I'd use it more if it was smaller.

Alvetoft · 11-01-2013, 07:53 AM

Just another tripod lens from Pentax!

But i will by one!

**crewl1** · 11-01-2013, 07:54 AM

So small- how did they get a DC motor in there?
I am skeptical about the DC WR aspects.
Happy to be proven wrong.

cali92rs · 11-01-2013, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

Compact zoom, limited IQ.

I admit I got a little confused when i read this statement.
I figured out you meant "Pentax Limited" IQ, instead of limited IQ (limited IQ meaning that it isnt very good

wed7 · 11-01-2013, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by hongzhibin1987

this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv.
but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr...
hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted.

FA 31 and 43? I doubt that, with a sluggish aperture compare to the FA's, It's only the miniscule size is it's selling point, I wonder if if I should start looking on Fuji for street shooting. :-)

Blue · 11-01-2013, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by repaap

I can see a liitle red tint od that red O ring. Ps. In other thread there was a patent for 20-40/2.8-4 DC WR limited lens. So it might be from that.

20mm would start at 2.8 and 40mm would start at 4.

Andi Lo · 11-01-2013, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by wed7

FA 31 and 43? I doubt that, with a sluggish aperture compare to the FA's, It's only the miniscule size is it's selling point, I wonder if if I should start looking on Fuji for street shooting. :-)

I speculate that with the price of this lens you can probably buy a really good fuji

However this lens is like the recent MacPro. Whether the product is relevant / succeeds or not is irrelevant, but it gives me confidence that Ricoh (Apple) can innovate.

Blue · 11-01-2013, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by repaap

And you can add to that list: F 28/2.8, K/A24/.28, FA20/2.8

Oh, and DA 21/3.2

Do you mean for street photog? Because 28mm was a common focal length and just about every lens manufacturer had at least one.

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11-01-2013, 07:37 AM	#136
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Originally posted by repaap I can see a liitle red tint od that red O ring. Ps. In other thread there was a patent for 20-40/2.8-4 DC WR limited lens. So it might be from that. Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens? Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come.

11-01-2013, 07:39 AM	#137
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,172	Originally posted by Ayoh Unless it is sharp across the frame from max. aperture I do not see the appeal of this lens. Looks to be almost the same size as the 18-55mm WR. Slow aperture, narrow focal range. Quite likely expensive. What's the attraction aside from the nice build quality? Compact zoom, limited IQ. Anyone who wants limited or star IQ for landscapes, architecture, or anything not requiring narrow DF in a small package will find this lens useful, maybe even mandatory. If it weren't for the fact that I'm a bit cash strapped right now and that I already own the FA 20-35, I would get this lens the day it came out, and it would immediately become my most used lens in this range. This and the DA 15 could be used for 90%+ of my landscape shots.

11-01-2013, 07:41 AM	#138
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	I already wish that I'd have enough money for this. If it is great lens, you will see few lenses hitting to marketplace from me. I like to shoot from 20-40 mm. And I hahe few lenses on that range already. I don't mind of moderate speed of this lens. For me it looks good.

11-01-2013, 07:45 AM	#139
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Rorschach Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens? Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come. Well, no I'm not sure. But I could almost swear . For me any FF thingy is irrevelant and it is unlikely to be like that IMO. I like this range in APS-C mm.

11-01-2013, 07:47 AM	#140
hongzhibin1987 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 464	this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv. but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr... hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted.

11-01-2013, 07:50 AM	#141
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	Originally posted by Rorschach Are you sure it's not the red alignment dot for mounting the lens? Is this one really is WR, DC and also full frame compatible, it might be a real killer later when the body will come. From the size it is very unlikely to be FF compatible. The DC motor is bigger than traditional AF, and all FF lenses of this range is much bigger (see tokina 20-35 and tamron 17-35.)

11-01-2013, 07:50 AM	#142
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by hongzhibin1987 this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv. but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr... hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted. And you can add to that list: F 28/2.8, K/A24/.28, FA20/2.8 Oh, and DA 21/3.2

11-01-2013, 07:53 AM	#143
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Andi Lo From the size it is very unlikely to be FF compatible. The DC motor is bigger than traditional AF, and all FF lenses of this range is much bigger (see tokina 20-35 and tamron 17-35.) I have Tokina AT-X 235/2.8. And it is great lens. But it is huge. I'd use it more if it was smaller.

11-01-2013, 07:53 AM	#144
Alvetoft New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalarna Photos: Gallery Posts: 4	Just another tripod lens from Pentax! But i will by one!

11-01-2013, 07:54 AM	#145
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	So small- how did they get a DC motor in there? I am skeptical about the DC WR aspects. Happy to be proven wrong.

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11-01-2013, 08:05 AM	#146
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by northcoastgreg Compact zoom, limited IQ. I admit I got a little confused when i read this statement. I figured out you meant "Pentax Limited" IQ, instead of limited IQ (limited IQ meaning that it isnt very good

11-01-2013, 08:07 AM	#147
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Originally posted by hongzhibin1987 this is one of the weirdest FL i have ever seen on APSC market...20-40=30~60 on 35 equiv. but probably you can have a feeling of using fa31 and fa43 on one lens, and it's wr... hummm....this lens is superb for street photography.....kind tempted. FA 31 and 43? I doubt that, with a sluggish aperture compare to the FA's, It's only the miniscule size is it's selling point, I wonder if if I should start looking on Fuji for street shooting. :-)

11-01-2013, 08:12 AM	#148
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by repaap I can see a liitle red tint od that red O ring. Ps. In other thread there was a patent for 20-40/2.8-4 DC WR limited lens. So it might be from that. 20mm would start at 2.8 and 40mm would start at 4.

11-01-2013, 08:13 AM	#149
Andi Lo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 2,924	Originally posted by wed7 FA 31 and 43? I doubt that, with a sluggish aperture compare to the FA's, It's only the miniscule size is it's selling point, I wonder if if I should start looking on Fuji for street shooting. :-) I speculate that with the price of this lens you can probably buy a really good fuji However this lens is like the recent MacPro. Whether the product is relevant / succeeds or not is irrelevant, but it gives me confidence that Ricoh (Apple) can innovate.

11-01-2013, 08:16 AM	#150
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by repaap And you can add to that list: F 28/2.8, K/A24/.28, FA20/2.8 Oh, and DA 21/3.2 Do you mean for street photog? Because 28mm was a common focal length and just about every lens manufacturer had at least one.