The DA limited is 20-40? and WR?!

VisualDarkness · 12-06-2013, 12:49 PM

Do you have pics showing the problem? Test shots is rather sparse.

**jpzk** · 12-06-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by grispie

probably i'll stick with a prime in between DA15 and DA70...

For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd !

JP

leopold · 12-06-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by primetastic

Hello all, this is my first post on this informative forum. I felt I needed to share my limited experience with this lens as there is know real first hand info on it yet. After long deliberation I decided to purchase a K3, Hd 15mm, Hd 70mm and the new 20-40 ltd zoom. My perfect travel package.
I did a quick non scientific test to see how to sharp my new lenses where. A laid a news paper on the floor under my tripod, SR off and used the built in flash ( I told you it wasn't a scientific test!). I'm very impressed with the 70mm ltd. its impressive how sharp it is wide open, even better stopped down. I then did the same with the new Ltd Zoom. I shot wide open at 20 mm, 30mm and at 40mm then did the same @ f4, f5.6, f8,f11.
What I found was this thing is really soft at the edges through out the FL and at different apertures YUCK!. The centre of the image was not bad though. I was disappointed as this lens is not cheap! It seems very well made and the WR is very attractive. However if you need a WR zoom of 20-40mm and you are willing to put up with its soft edges then great, but image quality is every thing to me so I sadly sent it back to the shop. I bought the Hd 21 mm and the Hd 35mm macro to complete my set of HD lenses. 21mm gets better at f4
Maybe I had a dud and its a great lens, but from my initial findings I don't think it's a great lens and especially at that huge price! My advice to anyone thinking about buying this lens would be wait for a proper review from DXO or similar or other people's experiences.
Like many people I was really looking forward to owning this lens but IMO its not worth the money

Sorry to put a downer on owning this lens and I hope I'm not out of line sharing my disappointment. I love my primes they seem great! I'm of on holiday next week and I can't wait to put my new Pentax gear through its paces.

Regards

Maybe you didn't get enough shooting with it, did you try it more than this shots ?
Did you use AF ?
Did you use Focus peaking ?
I'm surprised, it shouldn't be soft at ALL focal length and apertures????

grispie · 12-06-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd !

Hm.. :-)

**filoxophy** · 12-06-2013, 04:20 PM

Sorry to hear about your bad experience, primetastic. Sounds like you've ended up with a real drool-worthy setup in the end! Welcome to the Pentaxian fold!

bvg · 12-07-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by primetastic

Im not a troll

It looks like trolling.

Parallax · 12-07-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Franc

lovely troll

Originally posted by primetastic

Hello all Im not a troll, I've just spent almost £3000 on new pentax gear and proud of it. Yes I receive it on Thursday evening, the wife took it back to the shop today and came back with the 21ltd and the 35mm ltd to replaced the zoom. I really hope I just had a dud and it really is a good lens for everyone else's sake

Originally posted by bvg

It looks like trolling.

Let's take a breath here.
primetastic, here's why, IMHO, you are getting the reaction that you are: Your first post, on a brand specific forum, was to denigrate a highly anticipated product based on a single, "quick non scientific test". Let me make clear nothing you posted was inappropriate, or outside the forum rules; and you are welcome to post your honest opinions. Surely though, you can see why what appears to some to be a case of someone joining the forum for the sole purpose of bashing a hot topic product is evoking the T word.

Although, it would be nice if no one else says it. (That's a hint, folks.

)

goubejp · 12-08-2013, 03:15 AM

Have a look on the SLR lenses topic, there a first (positive) impressions of the DA20-40

Zygonyx · 12-08-2013, 02:03 PM

Well, that's a none-the-less extremely positive feedback

NeverSatisfied · 12-08-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd !

JP

Originally posted by grispie

Hm.. :-)

Beat me to it JP. Especially at Cyber-Monday pricing! But let me also play devil's advocate and say that the FA 43 Ltd more evenly splits the difference between 15mm and 70!

Although I am wondering if the 43 will become an orphan once the 31 arrives...

twitch · 12-08-2013, 05:32 PM

Splitting focal lengths should be done on a multiplier. So a nice split on a 2x multiple would in fact be 15, 30, 60 (DA15, FA31 and DA*55 or DA70). On a 1.5x it would be 15, 23, 34, 51, 76 (lets call it a DA15, FA24, FA31, FA50, FA77).

So a 31 is a better fit with a 15 & 70 than a 43 is.

NeverSatisfied · 12-08-2013, 07:17 PM

Yea I'll go along with that. Gonna be taking a trip to Arizona in a couple months and the 15, 31, and 50-135 will probably be the weapons of choice. My 31 is still on back-order at B&H...

Sandy Hancock · 12-09-2013, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by twitch

Splitting focal lengths should be done on a multiplier. So a nice split on a 2x multiple would in fact be 15, 30, 60 (DA15, FA31 and DA*55 or DA70). On a 1.5x it would be 15, 23, 34, 51, 76 (lets call it a DA15, FA24, FA31, FA50, FA77).

Or breaking it down even more, a 1.4x multiplier (give or take 0.1) gives you 15, 21, 31, 43, 55, 77, 100, 135, 200, 300. I'm working on it.

Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited?

Gray · 12-09-2013, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited?

Reactions and reviews so far have been a bit underwhelming. Plenty of chatter but not much substance.

repaap · 12-09-2013, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited?

I think that you can be excited. Looking forward to see what you think of it.

12-08-2013, 05:32 PM	#1001
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Splitting hairs Splitting focal lengths should be done on a multiplier. So a nice split on a 2x multiple would in fact be 15, 30, 60 (DA15, FA31 and DA*55 or DA70). On a 1.5x it would be 15, 23, 34, 51, 76 (lets call it a DA15, FA24, FA31, FA50, FA77). So a 31 is a better fit with a 15 & 70 than a 43 is.

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12-06-2013, 12:49 PM	#991
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Do you have pics showing the problem? Test shots is rather sparse.

12-06-2013, 12:50 PM	#992
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by grispie probably i'll stick with a prime in between DA15 and DA70... For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd ! JP

12-06-2013, 03:45 PM	#993
leopold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: montreal Posts: 136	Originally posted by primetastic Hello all, this is my first post on this informative forum. I felt I needed to share my limited experience with this lens as there is know real first hand info on it yet. After long deliberation I decided to purchase a K3, Hd 15mm, Hd 70mm and the new 20-40 ltd zoom. My perfect travel package. I did a quick non scientific test to see how to sharp my new lenses where. A laid a news paper on the floor under my tripod, SR off and used the built in flash ( I told you it wasn't a scientific test!). I'm very impressed with the 70mm ltd. its impressive how sharp it is wide open, even better stopped down. I then did the same with the new Ltd Zoom. I shot wide open at 20 mm, 30mm and at 40mm then did the same @ f4, f5.6, f8,f11. What I found was this thing is really soft at the edges through out the FL and at different apertures YUCK!. The centre of the image was not bad though. I was disappointed as this lens is not cheap! It seems very well made and the WR is very attractive. However if you need a WR zoom of 20-40mm and you are willing to put up with its soft edges then great, but image quality is every thing to me so I sadly sent it back to the shop. I bought the Hd 21 mm and the Hd 35mm macro to complete my set of HD lenses. 21mm gets better at f4 Maybe I had a dud and its a great lens, but from my initial findings I don't think it's a great lens and especially at that huge price! My advice to anyone thinking about buying this lens would be wait for a proper review from DXO or similar or other people's experiences. Like many people I was really looking forward to owning this lens but IMO its not worth the money Sorry to put a downer on owning this lens and I hope I'm not out of line sharing my disappointment. I love my primes they seem great! I'm of on holiday next week and I can't wait to put my new Pentax gear through its paces. Regards Maybe you didn't get enough shooting with it, did you try it more than this shots ? Did you use AF ? Did you use Focus peaking ? I'm surprised, it shouldn't be soft at ALL focal length and apertures????

12-06-2013, 03:48 PM	#994
grispie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by jpzk For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd ! Hm.. :-)

12-06-2013, 04:20 PM	#995
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133	Sorry to hear about your bad experience, primetastic. Sounds like you've ended up with a real drool-worthy setup in the end! Welcome to the Pentaxian fold!

12-07-2013, 08:19 AM	#996
bvg Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 340	Originally posted by primetastic Im not a troll It looks like trolling.

12-07-2013, 08:59 AM	#997
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by Franc lovely troll Originally posted by primetastic Hello all Im not a troll, I've just spent almost £3000 on new pentax gear and proud of it. Yes I receive it on Thursday evening, the wife took it back to the shop today and came back with the 21ltd and the 35mm ltd to replaced the zoom. I really hope I just had a dud and it really is a good lens for everyone else's sake Originally posted by bvg It looks like trolling. Let's take a breath here. primetastic, here's why, IMHO, you are getting the reaction that you are: Your first post, on a brand specific forum, was to denigrate a highly anticipated product based on a single, "quick non scientific test". Let me make clear nothing you posted was inappropriate, or outside the forum rules; and you are welcome to post your honest opinions. Surely though, you can see why what appears to some to be a case of someone joining the forum for the sole purpose of bashing a hot topic product is evoking the T word. Although, it would be nice if no one else says it. (That's a hint, folks. )

12-08-2013, 03:15 AM	#998
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	Have a look on the SLR lenses topic, there a first (positive) impressions of the DA20-40

12-08-2013, 02:03 PM	#999
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Well, that's a none-the-less extremely positive feedback

12-08-2013, 05:15 PM	#1000
NeverSatisfied Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 688	Originally posted by jpzk For your consideration: FA 31 Ltd ! JP Originally posted by grispie Hm.. :-) Beat me to it JP. Especially at Cyber-Monday pricing! But let me also play devil's advocate and say that the FA 43 Ltd more evenly splits the difference between 15mm and 70! Although I am wondering if the 43 will become an orphan once the 31 arrives...

12-08-2013, 07:17 PM	#1002
NeverSatisfied Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 688	Yea I'll go along with that. Gonna be taking a trip to Arizona in a couple months and the 15, 31, and 50-135 will probably be the weapons of choice. My 31 is still on back-order at B&H...

12-09-2013, 12:08 AM	#1003
Sandy Hancock Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Adelaide Hills, South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,275	Originally posted by twitch Splitting focal lengths should be done on a multiplier. So a nice split on a 2x multiple would in fact be 15, 30, 60 (DA15, FA31 and DA*55 or DA70). On a 1.5x it would be 15, 23, 34, 51, 76 (lets call it a DA15, FA24, FA31, FA50, FA77). Or breaking it down even more, a 1.4x multiplier (give or take 0.1) gives you 15, 21, 31, 43, 55, 77, 100, 135, 200, 300. I'm working on it. Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited?

12-09-2013, 02:27 AM	#1004
Gray Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cape Town Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited? Reactions and reviews so far have been a bit underwhelming. Plenty of chatter but not much substance.

12-09-2013, 03:07 AM	#1005
repaap Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,242	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Back on topic, my HD DA 20-40 limited should arrive tomorrow. Can I get excited? I think that you can be excited. Looking forward to see what you think of it.