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cali92rs · 12-13-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Gray

Call me picky, but the lens seems quite pedestrian, not worth the high price being demanded.

I dont call you picky at all...it is a premium price, with a limited range and not very fast. With those 3 parameters, it should have superb IQ. I haven't seen that,

ElJamoquio · 12-13-2013, 08:40 AM

I dunno. I haven't downloaded any files, and until I do so, I can't say anything about the sharpness.

In terms of rendering, it looks good to very good.

It's slow, yes, and it's moderately priced, so is it worth it? Not to me, but it definitely would suit many people.

richard balonglong · 12-13-2013, 09:57 AM

One question...
Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle?
To owners of this lens, can you confirm this like trying to use it or just mounting it on a Pentax 35mm film SLR to see if it has a dark circle/border at 20mm?
Just now, I just tried mounting the DA 18-55mm kit lens on a K1000 body, the dark circle/border disappears at 20mm... That's why I'm curious...
Thanks in advance!

lytrytyr · 12-13-2013, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by richard balonglong

One question...
Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle?

If it doesn't, then the FA 20-35/4 is an option.

Its filter size is 58mm, bigger than the 55mm on the DA,
so I suspect that there has been some miniaturization
in the design of the new lens.

**David** · 12-13-2013, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by richard balonglong

One question...
Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle?
To owners of this lens, can you confirm this like trying to use it or just mounting it on a Pentax 35mm film SLR to see if it has a dark circle/border at 20mm?
Just now, I just tried mounting the DA 18-55mm kit lens on a K1000 body, the dark circle/border disappears at 20mm... That's why I'm curious...
Thanks in advance!

No it doesn't. I tried it on a MZ5n and the corners vignette at near 20mm.

thibs · 12-14-2013, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

If it doesn't, then the FA 20-35/4 is an option.

Its filter size is 58mm, bigger than the 55mm on the DA,
so I suspect that there has been some miniaturization
in the design of the new lens.

Nope this lens is NOT based on the FA20-35.

drugal · 12-14-2013, 05:36 AM

The designs appear to be similar based on:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_optics/20-35f4.jpg
HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mmF2.8-4ED Limited DC WR / Standard-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Lenses / Products | RICOH IMAGING

The lens group in front of the focal point on the 20-35 may have been removed and redesigned into the element behind the focal point on the 20-40. It might just be that similar focal ranges produce similar designs, however.

ogl · 12-14-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by drugal

The designs appear to be similar based on:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_optics/20-35f4.jpg
HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mmF2.8-4ED Limited DC WR / Standard-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Lenses / Products | RICOH IMAGING

The lens group in front of the focal point on the 20-35 may have been removed and redesigned into the element behind the focal point on the 20-40. It might just be that similar focal ranges produce similar designs, however.

You can say it about any 50, 35 or 85 mm lenses, for exampe.

MMVIII · 12-14-2013, 05:54 AM

Ok, interesting. The shematic drawing shows also an aspheric element, which I can't remember of having been mentioned somewhere else?
Btw. - love the rendering!

ogl · 12-14-2013, 07:55 AM

DA 20-40 limited has ED, ELD and AL elements

saycheese1985 · 12-15-2013, 07:57 PM

Have some time with the lens yesterday, feel rugged, rather heavy (may be same as 77 or 31, but build quality may lag behind the two lens with more plastic parts, I think, except with WR), sharp from 2.8-4 (to my eye), look nice on K3 silver
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Will be officially released by end-Dec here in VN.

goubejp · 12-16-2013, 02:24 AM

I haven't seen plastic parts on my copy...

saycheese1985 · 12-16-2013, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by goubejp

I haven't seen plastic parts on my copy...

I just guess there is some inside, under the metal (aluminum) barrel, when holding it along with the 31 and 77, just pure guessing since it's a little bit lighter than the two other high-grade lenses. But if you own it, you have a better insight than mine for sure

.
As a K3 owner, I like it a lot as a wide angle lens, especially the silent AF and the WR which will enable me to shoot under almost all weather condiions. Considering buying it when it is released.

Fototim · 12-16-2013, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

For those of you interesting in this lens' flare resistance, I would say it isn't bad. This is a pretty severe test.

By comparison, a similar shot with the SMC DA 21mm limited. Like the other HD limiteds, the starbursts of the HD DA 20-40 limited are just not the same....

But stop the zoom down to f/16 and you get a better starburst effect, but still not quite in the same league as the DA21.

Flare test f/16

The calf is present in the 20-40 picture. That proves the 21 mm to be a inferior lens

;-)

Transit · 12-16-2013, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by richard balonglong

One question...
Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle?
...!

indeed...
I wonder if our new pending FF will have auto sensor crop back from any vignette
makes it less of an issue ?

12-13-2013, 09:57 AM	#1053
richard balonglong Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Baguio City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 350	One question... Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle? To owners of this lens, can you confirm this like trying to use it or just mounting it on a Pentax 35mm film SLR to see if it has a dark circle/border at 20mm? Just now, I just tried mounting the DA 18-55mm kit lens on a K1000 body, the dark circle/border disappears at 20mm... That's why I'm curious... Thanks in advance! Last edited by richard balonglong; 12-13-2013 at 10:02 AM.

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12-13-2013, 08:29 AM	#1051
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Gray Call me picky, but the lens seems quite pedestrian, not worth the high price being demanded. I dont call you picky at all...it is a premium price, with a limited range and not very fast. With those 3 parameters, it should have superb IQ. I haven't seen that,

12-13-2013, 08:40 AM	#1052
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	I dunno. I haven't downloaded any files, and until I do so, I can't say anything about the sharpness. In terms of rendering, it looks good to very good. It's slow, yes, and it's moderately priced, so is it worth it? Not to me, but it definitely would suit many people.

12-13-2013, 10:16 AM	#1054
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by richard balonglong One question... Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle? If it doesn't, then the FA 20-35/4 is an option. Its filter size is 58mm, bigger than the 55mm on the DA, so I suspect that there has been some miniaturization in the design of the new lens.

12-13-2013, 03:19 PM	#1055
David Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sandy Bay, Tasmania, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 347	Originally posted by richard balonglong One question... Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle? To owners of this lens, can you confirm this like trying to use it or just mounting it on a Pentax 35mm film SLR to see if it has a dark circle/border at 20mm? Just now, I just tried mounting the DA 18-55mm kit lens on a K1000 body, the dark circle/border disappears at 20mm... That's why I'm curious... Thanks in advance! No it doesn't. I tried it on a MZ5n and the corners vignette at near 20mm.

12-14-2013, 02:38 AM	#1056
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by lytrytyr If it doesn't, then the FA 20-35/4 is an option. Its filter size is 58mm, bigger than the 55mm on the DA, so I suspect that there has been some miniaturization in the design of the new lens. Nope this lens is NOT based on the FA20-35.

12-14-2013, 05:36 AM	#1057
drugal Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Detroit suburbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 259	The designs appear to be similar based on: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_optics/20-35f4.jpg HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mmF2.8-4ED Limited DC WR / Standard-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Lenses / Products \| RICOH IMAGING The lens group in front of the focal point on the 20-35 may have been removed and redesigned into the element behind the focal point on the 20-40. It might just be that similar focal ranges produce similar designs, however.

12-14-2013, 05:53 AM	#1058
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by drugal The designs appear to be similar based on: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/_optics/20-35f4.jpg HD PENTAX-DA 20-40mmF2.8-4ED Limited DC WR / Standard-Angle Lenses / K-mount Lenses / Lenses / Products \| RICOH IMAGING The lens group in front of the focal point on the 20-35 may have been removed and redesigned into the element behind the focal point on the 20-40. It might just be that similar focal ranges produce similar designs, however. You can say it about any 50, 35 or 85 mm lenses, for exampe.

12-14-2013, 05:54 AM	#1059
MMVIII Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: EU Posts: 1,121	Ok, interesting. The shematic drawing shows also an aspheric element, which I can't remember of having been mentioned somewhere else? Btw. - love the rendering!

12-14-2013, 07:55 AM	#1060
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	DA 20-40 limited has ED, ELD and AL elements

12-15-2013, 07:57 PM	#1061
saycheese1985 New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) Posts: 5	Have some time with the lens yesterday, feel rugged, rather heavy (may be same as 77 or 31, but build quality may lag behind the two lens with more plastic parts, I think, except with WR), sharp from 2.8-4 (to my eye), look nice on K3 silver Offline - Ch?p m?u "teen" cùng Pentax K-3 - Page 3 Will be officially released by end-Dec here in VN.

12-16-2013, 02:24 AM	#1062
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	I haven't seen plastic parts on my copy...

12-16-2013, 02:40 AM	#1063
saycheese1985 New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) Posts: 5	Originally posted by goubejp I haven't seen plastic parts on my copy... I just guess there is some inside, under the metal (aluminum) barrel, when holding it along with the 31 and 77, just pure guessing since it's a little bit lighter than the two other high-grade lenses. But if you own it, you have a better insight than mine for sure . As a K3 owner, I like it a lot as a wide angle lens, especially the silent AF and the WR which will enable me to shoot under almost all weather condiions. Considering buying it when it is released.

12-16-2013, 09:31 AM	#1064
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock For those of you interesting in this lens' flare resistance, I would say it isn't bad. This is a pretty severe test. By comparison, a similar shot with the SMC DA 21mm limited. Like the other HD limiteds, the starbursts of the HD DA 20-40 limited are just not the same.... But stop the zoom down to f/16 and you get a better starburst effect, but still not quite in the same league as the DA21. Flare test f/16 The calf is present in the 20-40 picture. That proves the 21 mm to be a inferior lens ;-)

12-16-2013, 02:36 PM	#1065
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by richard balonglong One question... Does this 20-40mm lens covers the FF image circle? ...! indeed... I wonder if our new pending FF will have auto sensor crop back from any vignette makes it less of an issue ?

The DA limited is 20-40? and WR?!

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