Black Friday Rumours

**Ahab** · 11-03-2013, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by FireDog

Hm...
two for the DA* 200mm...
two for the DA* 300mm...

To those that have and like the DA* 200mm how prone is it to purple fringing?
Welcome to Photozone! shows/suggests it can be a problem.
Their review is based on a 2008 model and a K10D.
PF really bugs me.
I have the three-amigos and the 31 PFs at times.
Pisses me off such that I rarely use it.

PF with this lens has never been a problem for me.

PBandJ · 11-05-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Adam

MAP will be dropped like last year, but it's still up to the stores to come up with the deals!

When do they usually publish the sale info? The weekend before?

Adam · 11-05-2013, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by PBandJ

When do they usually publish the sale info? The weekend before?

Day of, usually.

elpolodiablo · 11-05-2013, 12:28 PM

Am I the only one hoping to get a GR deal?

Adam · 11-05-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by elpolodiablo

Am I the only one hoping to get a GR deal?

I hope not, the GR deserves to go on sale! Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it...

elpolodiablo · 11-05-2013, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I hope not, the GR deserves to go on sale! Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it...

Well it's got drown out by the K-3 buzz, but I've handled the real thing and so very wish I can get one to go with my DSLR kit....

Adam · 11-05-2013, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by elpolodiablo

Well it's got drown out by the K-3 buzz, but I've handled the real thing and so very wish I can get one to go with my DSLR kit....

But it's been around for more than half a year now!

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elpolodiablo · 11-05-2013, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Adam

But it's been around for more than half a year now!

lol Ya, I agree it should get better buzz than it got right now, but I guess it's got very specific target audience and they don't need convincing with the spec. What I suspect happening is that people are interested but had been holding on to their wallet for the K-5II replacement, which eventually turn out to be the (on paper) excellent K-3 so the funds are going that way, I have to say I am mightily tempted by K-3 myself but I am currently travelling and the weight and bulk of DSLR kit really starting to show....If they come up with a Black Friday deal on GR in the region of $500 then I will jump on it for sure.

lytrytyr · 11-05-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Adam

the camera says Ricoh on it.

Isn't that also true of the production K3?

Adam · 11-05-2013, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by elpolodiablo

lol Ya, I agree it should get better buzz than it got right now, but I guess it's got very specific target audience and they don't need convincing with the spec. What I suspect happening is that people are interested but had been holding on to their wallet for the K-5II replacement, which eventually turn out to be the (on paper) excellent K-3 so the funds are going that way, I have to say I am mightily tempted by K-3 myself but I am currently travelling and the weight and bulk of DSLR kit really starting to show....If they come up with a Black Friday deal on GR in the region of $500 then I will jump on it for sure.

That might be true for the Pentax crowd. In general, though, the GR is selling very well among non-Pentax users; it might be one of Pentax's most successful products currently on the market not counting recent announcements.

thibs · 11-05-2013, 01:47 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Adam

Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it...

If that's the reason, I'm sorry to say this is VERY VERY stupid.

lytrytyr · 11-05-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by thibs

If that's the reason, I'm sorry to say this is VERY VERY stupid.

Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens,
that should be viable for years,
rigidly attached to a digital body
that will become obsolete in short order.

Back when the Leica X1 and Fuji X100 came out,
I rejected them in favor of putting a K24/2.8 on a K-x.
The K-x is now geriatric,
but the K24/2.8 has moved to a K-01.

thibs · 11-05-2013, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens,
that should be viable for years,
rigidly attached to a digital body
that will become obsolete in short order.

Back when the Leica X1 and Fuji X100 came out,
I rejected them in favor of putting a K24/2.8 on a K-x.
The K-x is now geriatric,
but the K24/2.8 has moved to a K-01.

This is a completely respectable point.
I can't stand why people would not buy the GR because Ricoh is written instead of Pentax, especially on a previously Ricoh produced line of cameras.

gazonk · 11-05-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens,
that should be viable for years,
rigidly attached to a digital body
that will become obsolete in short order.

That's a valid point, but I must say the GR is very tempting when I compare the quality and cost of the GR and the DA21 (which would be the natural choice for my next limited now that I have the 15, 35 and 70). I could use a pocketable quality camera every now and then, too!

FireDog · 11-05-2013, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by pid

Da*200 is the first choice if you like to shoot indoors. for example concerts etc. You can easyly handhold it even in lowlight situations. The DA*300 and the DA*60-250 are a very fine lenses, but they are much bigger and much heavier than the DA*200. ... and the DA*200 also isn't very light. I use it with my A 1.4x-L Rearconverter and/or the F 1.7x Autofocusadapter if I need a longer lens. Works great. Best Results are with the A 1.4x-L Rearconverter with almost no IQ loss. Small and light Kombination to carry!
On Tripod this works too DA*200/2.8+F 1.7x Adapter + A 1.4x-L Rearconverter: 480/f6.3 with Autofocus!!!
(see Exif, 500mm because you can not choose 480mm, f6.3 means you shoot with füll opened aperture on DA*200)

Interesting concept. It's one thing I had in mind.
Get the DA* 200mm and find an SDM compatible teleconverter.
Well, the mailman just delivered a Kenko Pz-AF 1.5x TELEPLUS SHQ. (eBay, Tokyo, $208CAD)
It has the SDM contacts and after some initial primitive testing everything is working well.
I have to do some extensive testing with my DA* 55mm and DA* 50-135mm.
If the IQ satisfies my critical eye, I think I will go for the DA* 200mm first.
PS:
Why doesn't Pentax come out with a quality TC like the other guys?

11-05-2013, 11:27 AM	#18
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by PBandJ When do they usually publish the sale info? The weekend before? Day of, usually. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

11-05-2013, 12:30 PM	#20
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by elpolodiablo Am I the only one hoping to get a GR deal? I hope not, the GR deserves to go on sale! Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it... Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

11-05-2013, 01:19 PM	#25
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by elpolodiablo lol Ya, I agree it should get better buzz than it got right now, but I guess it's got very specific target audience and they don't need convincing with the spec. What I suspect happening is that people are interested but had been holding on to their wallet for the K-5II replacement, which eventually turn out to be the (on paper) excellent K-3 so the funds are going that way, I have to say I am mightily tempted by K-3 myself but I am currently travelling and the weight and bulk of DSLR kit really starting to show....If they come up with a Black Friday deal on GR in the region of $500 then I will jump on it for sure. That might be true for the Pentax crowd. In general, though, the GR is selling very well among non-Pentax users; it might be one of Pentax's most successful products currently on the market not counting recent announcements. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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11-03-2013, 07:14 AM	#16
Ahab Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arnold, Md. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 762	Originally posted by FireDog Hm... two for the DA* 200mm... two for the DA* 300mm... To those that have and like the DA* 200mm how prone is it to purple fringing? Welcome to Photozone! shows/suggests it can be a problem. Their review is based on a 2008 model and a K10D. PF really bugs me. I have the three-amigos and the 31 PFs at times. Pisses me off such that I rarely use it. PF with this lens has never been a problem for me.

11-05-2013, 11:02 AM	#17
PBandJ Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC metro area Photos: Gallery Posts: 480	Originally posted by Adam MAP will be dropped like last year, but it's still up to the stores to come up with the deals! When do they usually publish the sale info? The weekend before?

11-05-2013, 12:28 PM	#19
elpolodiablo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,637	Am I the only one hoping to get a GR deal?

11-05-2013, 12:36 PM	#21
elpolodiablo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,637	Originally posted by Adam I hope not, the GR deserves to go on sale! Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it... Well it's got drown out by the K-3 buzz, but I've handled the real thing and so very wish I can get one to go with my DSLR kit....

11-05-2013, 12:38 PM	#22
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by elpolodiablo Well it's got drown out by the K-3 buzz, but I've handled the real thing and so very wish I can get one to go with my DSLR kit.... But it's been around for more than half a year now! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

11-05-2013, 01:02 PM	#23
elpolodiablo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,637	Originally posted by Adam But it's been around for more than half a year now! lol Ya, I agree it should get better buzz than it got right now, but I guess it's got very specific target audience and they don't need convincing with the spec. What I suspect happening is that people are interested but had been holding on to their wallet for the K-5II replacement, which eventually turn out to be the (on paper) excellent K-3 so the funds are going that way, I have to say I am mightily tempted by K-3 myself but I am currently travelling and the weight and bulk of DSLR kit really starting to show....If they come up with a Black Friday deal on GR in the region of $500 then I will jump on it for sure.

11-05-2013, 01:14 PM	#24
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Adam the camera says Ricoh on it. Isn't that also true of the production K3?

11-05-2013, 01:47 PM - 1 Like	#26
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Adam Very few people on PF even have one because the camera says Ricoh on it... If that's the reason, I'm sorry to say this is VERY VERY stupid.

11-05-2013, 01:56 PM	#27
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by thibs If that's the reason, I'm sorry to say this is VERY VERY stupid. Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens, that should be viable for years, rigidly attached to a digital body that will become obsolete in short order. Back when the Leica X1 and Fuji X100 came out, I rejected them in favor of putting a K24/2.8 on a K-x. The K-x is now geriatric, but the K24/2.8 has moved to a K-01.

11-05-2013, 02:01 PM	#28
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by lytrytyr Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens, that should be viable for years, rigidly attached to a digital body that will become obsolete in short order. Back when the Leica X1 and Fuji X100 came out, I rejected them in favor of putting a K24/2.8 on a K-x. The K-x is now geriatric, but the K24/2.8 has moved to a K-01. This is a completely respectable point. I can't stand why people would not buy the GR because Ricoh is written instead of Pentax, especially on a previously Ricoh produced line of cameras.

11-05-2013, 02:08 PM	#29
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by lytrytyr Personally, I don't want to buy a good and expensive lens, that should be viable for years, rigidly attached to a digital body that will become obsolete in short order. That's a valid point, but I must say the GR is very tempting when I compare the quality and cost of the GR and the DA21 (which would be the natural choice for my next limited now that I have the 15, 35 and 70). I could use a pocketable quality camera every now and then, too!

11-05-2013, 02:23 PM	#30
FireDog Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 47 Original Poster	Originally posted by pid Da200 is the first choice if you like to shoot indoors. for example concerts etc. You can easyly handhold it even in lowlight situations. The DA300 and the DA60-250 are a very fine lenses, but they are much bigger and much heavier than the DA200. ... and the DA200 also isn't very light. I use it with my A 1.4x-L Rearconverter and/or the F 1.7x Autofocusadapter if I need a longer lens. Works great. Best Results are with the A 1.4x-L Rearconverter with almost no IQ loss. Small and light Kombination to carry! On Tripod this works too DA200/2.8+F 1.7x Adapter + A 1.4x-L Rearconverter: 480/f6.3 with Autofocus!!! (see Exif, 500mm because you can not choose 480mm, f6.3 means you shoot with füll opened aperture on DA200) Interesting concept. It's one thing I had in mind. Get the DA 200mm and find an SDM compatible teleconverter. Well, the mailman just delivered a Kenko Pz-AF 1.5x TELEPLUS SHQ. (eBay, Tokyo, $208CAD) It has the SDM contacts and after some initial primitive testing everything is working well. I have to do some extensive testing with my DA* 55mm and DA* 50-135mm. If the IQ satisfies my critical eye, I think I will go for the DA* 200mm first. PS: Why doesn't Pentax come out with a quality TC like the other guys?