K5ii discontinued at bh photo

liquid0 · 12-21-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by JimmyDranox

@liquid0. K-5 II/s are fine, OK. But they have to be replaced, sometime, sooner or later. If this possible, with no big changes, with technologies already available, why not.

But it has, and it called the K3.

Originally posted by Kunzite

They're more than fine; but the K-3 appears to be even better

Better cameras are always going to be released, but when you really think about it, what is a better camera?
I have seen pictures taken by photographers with Pentax cameras that were released years ago, and the images are allot better than what some people take with the latest and greatest image processing technologies. New cameras are always getting released with conveniently tweaked up models to make photography allot more comfortable, and easier, especially for the armature who is looking to get into the hobby.

Personally I don't think the perfect camera will ever be released, because what ever the K3 now has been stocked with, someone is going to want features or enhancements that were already released by another brand.

So, it now gets me thinking, imagine a FF version of the K3.

Last edited by liquid0; 12-21-2013 at 09:45 PM.

JPT · 12-21-2013, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Pepe Le Pew

k-r came out almost 2 years after the k-x
k-50 came out a year later after the k-30 (still scratching my head around that)

This is an updated version of something I posted earlier in the year. The point is to show that the K-30, Q10 and K-5II were delayed by a few months because of the 2011 earthquake and Thai floods, but their successors were not. That’s why the K-50, Q7 and K-3 seemed to come ahead of schedule.

A hyphen is one month, a K or Q is a month where a camera was released and E is March 2011.

K-50 - June 12, 2013
K-30 - May 21, 2012
K-R - Sep 9, 2010
K-X - Sep 17, 2009
K-M - Sep 22, 2008

K-----------K-----------K-----E-------------K------------K------

Q7 - Jun 12, 2013
Q10 - Sep 10, 2012
Q - Jun 23, 2011

Q-----E--------Q--------Q------

K10D - Sep 13, 2006
K20D - Jan 23, 2008
K-7 - May 20, 2009
K-5 - Sep 20, 2010
K-5 II - Sep 10, 2012
K-3 - Oct 7, 2013

K---------------K---------------K---------------K-----E-----------------K------------K--

JimmyDranox · 12-22-2013, 02:20 AM

There are people who would like a camera with a 16Mp sensor, but with some of the features, if not all, of K-3. If you ask an astronomer, he will tell you that he prefers a 12 Mp sensor, instead of 24, with very low noise, but a new sensor, with high gain, not the old K-r sensor. There are a lot of people, with different preferences. Of course, not all can be done, but K-3 is a very good and modern platform, which can be developed in many ways.

goubejp · 12-22-2013, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by dcBear78

They need to discontinue the K-5. At the price it now is it will surely be affecting sales of both the K-50 and K-3.

It is discontinued for a while.

**jbinpg** · 12-22-2013, 05:47 PM

I would disagree with Jimmy here. I much prefer the K-3 sensor for astro work since the increase in resolution is so apparent. Stacking takes care of any increase in noise compared to the 16Mp sensors.

Jack

JimmyDranox · 12-23-2013, 03:09 AM

Depends of your style, of your telescope speed and aperture, of the amount of time you have for making one photo, of many other variables. And I don't think that stacking alone can solve the noise problem completely. I know a lot of astrophotographers, including a winner of one of the richest contest, ASA Astrophotographer of The Year 2013, and they all have preferences.

BLACKDRAGON · 12-24-2013, 12:35 PM

"They need to discontinue the K-5. At the price it now is it will surely be affecting sales of both the K-50 and K-3"

It's still a damned good camera and the more choice there is the better!!

PJay · 12-24-2013, 11:32 PM

The K5-II is an awesome camera to use.

PJay · 12-24-2013, 11:34 PM

...And I need to make one more post before I can send someone a PM. Done! (Still love the K5-II though)

liquid0 · 12-25-2013, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by PJay

The K5-II is an awesome camera to use.

Amen...

krebsy75 · 12-25-2013, 06:40 PM

My experience as well. It has a special rendering quality for sure.

Originally posted by DDoram

...the K5IIs produces a clalrity of image that I have never seen before.

Dale

PJay · 12-26-2013, 04:13 AM - **1 Like**

The prices that the K5-ii are now selling at, makes it very tempting to skimp on the K3 for a while..and purchase a back-up camera in the form of a......K5-II.

liquid0 · 12-27-2013, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by PJay

The prices that the K5-ii are now selling at, makes it very tempting to skimp on the K3 for a while..and purchase a back-up camera in the form of a......K5-II.

Yeah!! man you should, I may just to that my self,...

**jimr-pdx** · 01-03-2014, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by JimmyDranox

Depends of your style, of your telescope speed and aperture, of the amount of time you have for making one photo, of many other variables. And I don't think that stacking alone can solve the noise problem completely. I know a lot of astrophotographers, including a winner of one of the richest contest, ASA Astrophotographer of The Year 2013, and they all have preferences.

Silly me, I'm hoping the Q will be sufficient; at least it will be among my lighter 'eyepieces'!

I've taken several photos with the II that were absurd AF shots-in-the-dark. And it worked - even in live view when the zoomed image showed me nothing to justify the green AF lock. That's why I bought a bargain II while my K-5 classic awaits a free shop visit. Three cheers for SAFOX X (and XI)!

malenisjaj · 01-07-2014, 08:12 AM

Before few hours I contacted the importer and they told me that they got the informations from Pentax (Europe) that K-5 II is "available for order". So, in a few weeks I'll be the owner of that lovely DSLR!

But, now I'm wondering, are they still producing that particular model or they have send the last supplies for EU?

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12-21-2013, 05:29 PM	#61
liquid0 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 58	Originally posted by JimmyDranox @liquid0. K-5 II/s are fine, OK. But they have to be replaced, sometime, sooner or later. If this possible, with no big changes, with technologies already available, why not. But it has, and it called the K3. Originally posted by Kunzite They're more than fine; but the K-3 appears to be even better Better cameras are always going to be released, but when you really think about it, what is a better camera? I have seen pictures taken by photographers with Pentax cameras that were released years ago, and the images are allot better than what some people take with the latest and greatest image processing technologies. New cameras are always getting released with conveniently tweaked up models to make photography allot more comfortable, and easier, especially for the armature who is looking to get into the hobby. Personally I don't think the perfect camera will ever be released, because what ever the K3 now has been stocked with, someone is going to want features or enhancements that were already released by another brand. So, it now gets me thinking, imagine a FF version of the K3. Last edited by liquid0; 12-21-2013 at 09:45 PM.

12-21-2013, 06:17 PM	#62
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,808	Originally posted by Pepe Le Pew k-r came out almost 2 years after the k-x k-50 came out a year later after the k-30 (still scratching my head around that) This is an updated version of something I posted earlier in the year. The point is to show that the K-30, Q10 and K-5II were delayed by a few months because of the 2011 earthquake and Thai floods, but their successors were not. That’s why the K-50, Q7 and K-3 seemed to come ahead of schedule. A hyphen is one month, a K or Q is a month where a camera was released and E is March 2011. K-50 - June 12, 2013 K-30 - May 21, 2012 K-R - Sep 9, 2010 K-X - Sep 17, 2009 K-M - Sep 22, 2008 K-----------K-----------K-----E-------------K------------K------ Q7 - Jun 12, 2013 Q10 - Sep 10, 2012 Q - Jun 23, 2011 Q-----E--------Q--------Q------ K10D - Sep 13, 2006 K20D - Jan 23, 2008 K-7 - May 20, 2009 K-5 - Sep 20, 2010 K-5 II - Sep 10, 2012 K-3 - Oct 7, 2013 K---------------K---------------K---------------K-----E-----------------K------------K--

12-22-2013, 02:20 AM	#63
JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,630	There are people who would like a camera with a 16Mp sensor, but with some of the features, if not all, of K-3. If you ask an astronomer, he will tell you that he prefers a 12 Mp sensor, instead of 24, with very low noise, but a new sensor, with high gain, not the old K-r sensor. There are a lot of people, with different preferences. Of course, not all can be done, but K-3 is a very good and modern platform, which can be developed in many ways.

12-22-2013, 03:02 AM	#64
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	Originally posted by dcBear78 They need to discontinue the K-5. At the price it now is it will surely be affecting sales of both the K-50 and K-3. It is discontinued for a while.

12-22-2013, 05:47 PM	#65
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,139	I would disagree with Jimmy here. I much prefer the K-3 sensor for astro work since the increase in resolution is so apparent. Stacking takes care of any increase in noise compared to the 16Mp sensors. Jack

12-23-2013, 03:09 AM	#66
JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,630	Depends of your style, of your telescope speed and aperture, of the amount of time you have for making one photo, of many other variables. And I don't think that stacking alone can solve the noise problem completely. I know a lot of astrophotographers, including a winner of one of the richest contest, ASA Astrophotographer of The Year 2013, and they all have preferences.

12-24-2013, 12:35 PM	#67
BLACKDRAGON Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 28	"They need to discontinue the K-5. At the price it now is it will surely be affecting sales of both the K-50 and K-3" It's still a damned good camera and the more choice there is the better!!

12-24-2013, 11:34 PM	#69
PJay Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 36	...And I need to make one more post before I can send someone a PM. Done! (Still love the K5-II though)

12-25-2013, 12:06 AM	#70
liquid0 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 58	Originally posted by PJay The K5-II is an awesome camera to use. Amen...

12-25-2013, 06:40 PM	#71
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804	My experience as well. It has a special rendering quality for sure. Originally posted by DDoram ...the K5IIs produces a clalrity of image that I have never seen before. Dale

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12-26-2013, 04:13 AM - 1 Like	#72
PJay Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 36	The prices that the K5-ii are now selling at, makes it very tempting to skimp on the K3 for a while..and purchase a back-up camera in the form of a......K5-II.

12-27-2013, 11:17 AM	#73
liquid0 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 58	Originally posted by PJay The prices that the K5-ii are now selling at, makes it very tempting to skimp on the K3 for a while..and purchase a back-up camera in the form of a......K5-II. Yeah!! man you should, I may just to that my self,...

01-03-2014, 06:57 PM	#74
jimr-pdx Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: 1hr north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,788	Originally posted by JimmyDranox Depends of your style, of your telescope speed and aperture, of the amount of time you have for making one photo, of many other variables. And I don't think that stacking alone can solve the noise problem completely. I know a lot of astrophotographers, including a winner of one of the richest contest, ASA Astrophotographer of The Year 2013, and they all have preferences. Silly me, I'm hoping the Q will be sufficient; at least it will be among my lighter 'eyepieces'! I've taken several photos with the II that were absurd AF shots-in-the-dark. And it worked - even in live view when the zoomed image showed me nothing to justify the green AF lock. That's why I bought a bargain II while my K-5 classic awaits a free shop visit. Three cheers for SAFOX X (and XI)!

01-07-2014, 08:12 AM	#75
malenisjaj Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 166	Before few hours I contacted the importer and they told me that they got the informations from Pentax (Europe) that K-5 II is "available for order". So, in a few weeks I'll be the owner of that lovely DSLR! But, now I'm wondering, are they still producing that particular model or they have send the last supplies for EU?