Samyang 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

**WPRESTO** · 05-15-2014, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by DogLover

Yep, looks pretty good.

Looked at the sample images, but all are filled with featureless material at the edges (deep, near black evergreen trees at the edge could be imaged as well by the traditional "bottom of a Coke bottle"), and three of the four have essentially nothing near the center of the frame that would permit reasonable evaluation of IQ. Would like to see an image of a complex, richly ornate interior and also a monotonous brick wall. Is the lens better in resolution, CA, distortion than a Sigma 10-20? or Sigma 8-16? or Tamron super-wide zoom? or a distortion-corrected cropped image from a Pentax 10-17? or a similarly PP'd image from a Samyang-Bower-Vivitar-etc 8mm? Has to be very sharp at f2.8 with very good distortion control to justify that price.

Tighelander · 05-16-2014, 02:22 AM

I have the multi-brand 8mm APS-C lens, and the nice 17-50mm Sigma zoom, but I've been thinking of the Tamron Adaptall 17mm just because I recently bought the hood.

northcoastgreg · 05-16-2014, 07:40 AM

The Samyang 10mm has been reviewed over at ephotozine:

Samyang 10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS Lens Review

Na Horuk · 05-18-2014, 03:07 PM

That review has very positive results. The flare and CA performance are what is really exciting

Tighelander · 05-18-2014, 04:05 PM

I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up.

DSims · 05-18-2014, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Tighelander

I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up.

And of course you believed the pop-up, right?

**mike.hiran** · 05-18-2014, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Tighelander

I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up.

I got a pop up on my s3 just like that from a different site today too.... hmmmm

krp · 05-19-2014, 12:56 AM

I just ordered this lens. I was hoping there would be more reviews and sample images online, particularly for astrophotography. But I can always return it if I don't like it. If it's good I'll probably sell my 14mm f2.8 lens. I'm planning to put the lens to the test on Friday night for a meteor shower.

Cannikin · 05-19-2014, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by krp

I just ordered this lens. I was hoping there would be more reviews and sample images online, particularly for astrophotography. But I can always return it if I don't like it. If it's good I'll probably sell my 14mm f2.8 lens. I'm planning to put the lens to the test on Friday night for a meteor shower.

I'm considering this lens too for the same purpose (astrophotography). I'm just waiting for the Lenstip review, because they're the only ones I know of that test for coma.

I wonder why other review sites don't test for coma. It's not like it's difficult. There are no convoluted measuring algorithms involved. Just need a dark environment and a point source of light, like a laser pointer, in the corner. Take shots at various apertures and post the photos. The images speak for themselves.

**interested_observer** · 05-19-2014, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Tony Belding

I hate to say it, but I've decided to send the 10mm lens back. Not only does the focus ring not stop at infinity, all the markings appear to be off, and the ring turns more easily than I think it should. All of this I could live with, but it does add up to a nuisance.

The other thing I realized is that I can do practically everything this lens does with the 7.5mm fisheye on my Olympus. I got PTLens software, so I can de-fish the images, and the IQ is actually pretty closely comparable. It's way smaller and lighter, only one stop slower, the focus ring works perfectly, and each shot I snap is potentially both a fisheye and a rectilinear image. (But I do have to mind the aperture ring, since it's all manual.)

I was going to tell myself to write out "I don't need another wide angle lens", 10,000 times. My 8-16, 12-24 and 10-17 will do just fine for astro. The O-GPS1 will compensate for the smaller apertures and slower glass. My checkbook thanks you.....

krp · 05-22-2014, 10:40 PM - **2 Likes**

I ordered the last Pentax mount lens from Beach Camera and I got it in only 3 days. Compared to the Samyang 14mm, f2.8, the 10mm is just slightly longer and heavier. Here are a couple sample images from yesterday.

I'll have a few hundred shots of the night sky (and hopefully meteors) after tomorrow night.

wkraus · 05-23-2014, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by krp

I'll have a few hundred shots of the night sky (and hopefully meteors) after tomorrow night.

A few of us over here in Europe are mighty envious about that meteor shower which will not really be visible here (coinciding with the early morning hours). Please do post a few of your shots!

krp · 06-04-2014, 11:46 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by wkraus

A few of us over here in Europe are mighty envious about that meteor shower which will not really be visible here (coinciding with the early morning hours). Please do post a few of your shots!

You didn't miss much. But I did catch one bright meteor:

Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr
I've only had the lens 2 weeks but it's already enabled to get some shots that I would have missed otherwise. If I only had my 14mm lens I would have missed that meteor and not been able to capture the entire storm in the link above.

Na Horuk · 06-04-2014, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by krp

Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr

Wow, some really stunning photos there (as well as the ones posted in this thread)

wkraus · 06-05-2014, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by krp

You didn't miss much. But I did catch one bright meteor:

Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr
I've only had the lens 2 weeks but it's already enabled to get some shots that I would have missed otherwise. If I only had my 14mm lens I would have missed that meteor and not been able to capture the entire storm in the link above.

Thank you--magnificent meteor shot!

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05-15-2014, 10:16 AM	#46
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,106	Originally posted by DogLover Yep, looks pretty good. Looked at the sample images, but all are filled with featureless material at the edges (deep, near black evergreen trees at the edge could be imaged as well by the traditional "bottom of a Coke bottle"), and three of the four have essentially nothing near the center of the frame that would permit reasonable evaluation of IQ. Would like to see an image of a complex, richly ornate interior and also a monotonous brick wall. Is the lens better in resolution, CA, distortion than a Sigma 10-20? or Sigma 8-16? or Tamron super-wide zoom? or a distortion-corrected cropped image from a Pentax 10-17? or a similarly PP'd image from a Samyang-Bower-Vivitar-etc 8mm? Has to be very sharp at f2.8 with very good distortion control to justify that price.

05-16-2014, 02:22 AM	#47
Tighelander Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 228	I have the multi-brand 8mm APS-C lens, and the nice 17-50mm Sigma zoom, but I've been thinking of the Tamron Adaptall 17mm just because I recently bought the hood.

05-16-2014, 07:40 AM	#48
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	The Samyang 10mm has been reviewed over at ephotozine: Samyang 10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS Lens Review

05-18-2014, 03:07 PM	#49
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	That review has very positive results. The flare and CA performance are what is really exciting

05-18-2014, 04:05 PM	#50
Tighelander Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 228	I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up.

05-18-2014, 09:54 PM	#51
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Tighelander I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up. And of course you believed the pop-up, right?

05-18-2014, 11:04 PM	#52
mike.hiran Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: portland Photos: Albums Posts: 1,491	Originally posted by Tighelander I clicked on the review link, and wasn't happy to get a pop-up saying that my phone was inflected, and had to download an app to clean it up. I got a pop up on my s3 just like that from a different site today too.... hmmmm

05-19-2014, 12:56 AM	#53
krp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Illinois Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	I just ordered this lens. I was hoping there would be more reviews and sample images online, particularly for astrophotography. But I can always return it if I don't like it. If it's good I'll probably sell my 14mm f2.8 lens. I'm planning to put the lens to the test on Friday night for a meteor shower.

05-19-2014, 03:25 AM	#54
Cannikin Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SW Washington Posts: 833	Originally posted by krp I just ordered this lens. I was hoping there would be more reviews and sample images online, particularly for astrophotography. But I can always return it if I don't like it. If it's good I'll probably sell my 14mm f2.8 lens. I'm planning to put the lens to the test on Friday night for a meteor shower. I'm considering this lens too for the same purpose (astrophotography). I'm just waiting for the Lenstip review, because they're the only ones I know of that test for coma. I wonder why other review sites don't test for coma. It's not like it's difficult. There are no convoluted measuring algorithms involved. Just need a dark environment and a point source of light, like a laser pointer, in the corner. Take shots at various apertures and post the photos. The images speak for themselves.

05-19-2014, 03:53 AM	#55
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Originally posted by Tony Belding I hate to say it, but I've decided to send the 10mm lens back. Not only does the focus ring not stop at infinity, all the markings appear to be off, and the ring turns more easily than I think it should. All of this I could live with, but it does add up to a nuisance. The other thing I realized is that I can do practically everything this lens does with the 7.5mm fisheye on my Olympus. I got PTLens software, so I can de-fish the images, and the IQ is actually pretty closely comparable. It's way smaller and lighter, only one stop slower, the focus ring works perfectly, and each shot I snap is potentially both a fisheye and a rectilinear image. (But I do have to mind the aperture ring, since it's all manual.) I was going to tell myself to write out "I don't need another wide angle lens", 10,000 times. My 8-16, 12-24 and 10-17 will do just fine for astro. The O-GPS1 will compensate for the smaller apertures and slower glass. My checkbook thanks you.....

05-22-2014, 10:40 PM - 2 Likes	#56
krp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Illinois Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	I ordered the last Pentax mount lens from Beach Camera and I got it in only 3 days. Compared to the Samyang 14mm, f2.8, the 10mm is just slightly longer and heavier. Here are a couple sample images from yesterday. I'll have a few hundred shots of the night sky (and hopefully meteors) after tomorrow night.

05-23-2014, 11:42 PM	#57
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,059	Originally posted by krp I'll have a few hundred shots of the night sky (and hopefully meteors) after tomorrow night. A few of us over here in Europe are mighty envious about that meteor shower which will not really be visible here (coinciding with the early morning hours). Please do post a few of your shots!

06-04-2014, 11:46 AM - 3 Likes	#58
krp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Illinois Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	Originally posted by wkraus A few of us over here in Europe are mighty envious about that meteor shower which will not really be visible here (coinciding with the early morning hours). Please do post a few of your shots! You didn't miss much. But I did catch one bright meteor: Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr I've only had the lens 2 weeks but it's already enabled to get some shots that I would have missed otherwise. If I only had my 14mm lens I would have missed that meteor and not been able to capture the entire storm in the link above.

06-04-2014, 01:01 PM	#59
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by krp Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr Wow, some really stunning photos there (as well as the ones posted in this thread)

06-05-2014, 02:00 AM	#60
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,059	Originally posted by krp You didn't miss much. But I did catch one bright meteor: Here's some more shots with the lens here Flickr I've only had the lens 2 weeks but it's already enabled to get some shots that I would have missed otherwise. If I only had my 14mm lens I would have missed that meteor and not been able to capture the entire storm in the link above. Thank you--magnificent meteor shot!