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01-28-2014, 12:53 PM   #196
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About Android, there's this very pertinent joke:
"-Knock, knock!
-Who's there?
(very long pause)
-Java!"
Android means Java, and because of it I had to buy a new phone because 512 RAM and 1GHz processor weren't enough to fluently display a GUI - and was getting slower by the day; and then there's the battery life. I won't have it in my camera, period.

My phone is a Sony running Android, by the way (no rootkit detected so far ).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
About Android, there's this very pertinent joke:
"-Knock, knock!
-Who's there?
(very long pause)
-Java!"
Android means Java, and because of it I had to buy a new phone because 512 RAM and 1GHz processor weren't enough to fluently display a GUI - and was getting slower by the day; and then there's the battery life. I won't have it in my camera, period.

My phone is a Sony running Android, by the way (no rootkit detected so far ).
Not entirely true... Android is not just JAVA...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

Android is based on Linux kernel... the apps are mainly developed on JAVA. The middleware is C.
Look for the "Software stack" on that page for a more detailed explanation on how it works.


edit...

The ONLY phone (as far as I know) that is pure Linux based is the Ubuntu phone...

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Near Field Connection only works when it works - and even then only when it does. Of course, except when you don't want it to - then it works fine!!

The interfacing is the security. I don't want my stuff connectiing to some dude's stuff I passed by on the sidewalk.

I don't need any help connecting my devices to one another the way I want them connected and I certainly don't need my camera to connect to anything with a tap. I can quickly and easily connect to what I want when I want, securely, all by myself. Doesn't take as long as connecting my car to my garage door opener - that's for sure!
NFC hasn't failed me yet. I tried both the Eyefi and the generic Flucard, while they do work, they also make me want to pop a vein a in my brain. It's a tedious, time consuming fidgety process. Takes me away from taking picture far to long. Worrying about people snooping around in my SD is the least of my worries. I'm not in the habit of taking embarrassing selfies.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
I tried both the Eyefi and the generic Flucard, while they do work, they also make me want to pop a vein a in my brain. It's a tedious, time consuming fidgety process
I'm concerned more about tunneling onto my network server and secure feeds through the device portal.

Both cards are much easier now on the Pentax cameras with the Firmware updates. I literally put an Eye-Fi card in my K3 and connection was instanteous. None of this matters any more though.

Pentax will apparently announce a new Wi-Fi and NFC enabled mid-range camera next week.


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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Both are much easier on the Pentax cameras with the Firmware updates. I literally put an Eye-Fi card in my K3 and connection was instanteous. None of this matters
Admitted, after experiencing the generic flucard in the K-5, I will not be buying the Pentax iteration for my K-3. So I cannot comment on that.

QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Pentax will apparently announce a new Wi-Fi and NFC enabled mid-range camera next week.
Wait what? Oh wow, and a new lens!
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Not entirely true... Android is not just JAVA...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

Android is based on Linux kernel... the apps are mainly developed on JAVA. The middleware is C.
Look for the "Software stack" on that page for a more detailed explanation on how it works.


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The ONLY phone (as far as I know) that is pure Linux based is the Ubuntu phone...
Yes, it's not pure Java (which would be impossible anyway) - but IMO it's the Java part which does the harm. We know Linux can be fast on such devices; the Nokia N900 was nothing special hardware-wise, but was OK running the Linux-based Maemo.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Yes, it's not pure Java (which would be impossible anyway) - but IMO it's the Java part which does the harm. We know Linux can be fast on such devices; the Nokia N900 was nothing special hardware-wise, but was OK running the Linux-based Maemo.
Agree, I hate Java with passion
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I suppose they made up a batch, and found enough takers in the Japanese market for it to be worthwhile.
They also offered the FA 20-35, and an FA J zoom.

The Japanese website was quite amazing up to a year or so ago,
with medium-format film cameras (645N, 67) being offered for the "professional" market.

I don't know if you can still find the site on the wayback machine,
or if someone archived it.
I think that part of that explanation (the FA and FAJ's) were a stock pile caused by overproduction around 2000-2005 when Pentax didn't grasp how fast film SLRs dissapeared, and since they had it in stock, it was for sale. Part of it is probably just that they didn't updated the page until Ricoh took over (Hoya probably fired the guy who was supposed to do that...).
The 67 and 645 lenses were probably there because the medium formal film camera market died more slowly than the 135mm film SLR market, especially in Japan, and Pentax 67 and 645 cameras was manudactured a few years after the millenium turn.

But it appears that the SMC Pentax-A 50mm f1.2 was produced for a while a few years ago. It seams to be the only reasonable explanation to why those lenses appeared labeled "assembled in vietnam". Perhaps it was the graduation project of every new technician on the lens assembly lines in their vietnam plant?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden Quote
But it appears that the SMC Pentax-A 50mm f1.2 was produced for a while a few years ago. . . . Perhaps it was the graduation project of every new technician on the lens assembly lines in their vietnam plant?
Now you're scaring me!
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But it appears that the SMC Pentax-A 50mm f1.2 was produced for a while a few years ago. It seams to be the only reasonable explanation to why those lenses appeared labeled "assembled in vietnam". Perhaps it was the graduation project of every new technician on the lens assembly lines in their vietnam plant?
That was already a few years ago. Maybe they had leftover stock or parts to assembly. The 50mm/f1.2 is also the best lens people wouldn't mind not having AF, since the fast aperture off f1.2 is great for creative photography.

It is also a lens that could get a digital version with HD coating I think.

On Manual Focus Digital lenses:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/146899-new-lensline-pentax-dm-wr-manual-focus-only.html

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where can I get this book???
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where can I get this book???
I have no idea....where to buy.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pentaxina Quote
where can I get this book???
You can buy it on the website of Ricoh-Imaging Japan.

Here is the link: ???????? | RICOH IMAGING

It's around $52 in the current exchange rates.
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The book looks like it's in English, but the page isn't.
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
The book looks like it's in English, but the page isn't.
I haven't read the book, so I don't know whether it's written in English or not. It looks like the delivery is limited in Japan, but you can ask them if you want. According to the website, you can see over 200 photos in the book, some of which have been accepted in the family salon photo festival held by Pentax.
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