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01-29-2014, 03:27 PM   #121
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
The last FA 20-35/4 I saw for sale new in the US (through last summer) was around USD 550.
The DA 20-40/2.8-4 was on sale for USD 900 in November.
Given the virtually silent DC in-lens motor, WR, and wonderful IQ,
it is way more than "roughly the same product".
Ah, marketing!

Those are nice features, and I'll pay for such things when I actually need them, but the end results are "wonderful IQ" vs. "wonderful IQ" for 1/3 to 1/2 the cost.


I'm not bashing the new lens (it's too expensive to handle roughly anyway) - I'm just questioning whether it takes better photos.

01-29-2014, 03:28 PM   #122
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For the one who dont want to go to the firts page , here the rumor
1) Ricoh Pentax K-60 (credibility: 37%)
24MP APS-C CMOS sensor without LPF
11 AF points, three of which support -3EV AF capability
29K-pixel RGB metering
100K shutter lifecycle
PRIME III processor (Same as K-3)
100% pentaprism optical view finder
Light-weight and weather-sealed design
Body available in multiple colors
Support NFC and Wifi
MSRP: USD$699.00

2) HD Pentax-DA135-380mm f/4-5.6 ED [IF] DC WR (credibility: 65%)
Original post: 2014 CP+,HD Pentax-DA135-380mm f/4-5.6 ED [IF] DC WR

3) HD Pentax-DA18-70mm f/2.8-4.5 AL [IF] DC WR (credibility: 51%)
Original post: 2014 CP+,HD Pentax-DA18-70mm f/2.8-4.5 AL [IF] DC WR

And from the French site Le CHasseur d'image

3 new cameras in 2014 KL(retro style) , K60 and K600.

01-29-2014, 03:52 PM   #123
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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
I'm not certain why people don't follow the thought that having the same lens 7 years ago and now, isn't the same. Even a slow lens from 7 years ago is faster today, as the ISO performance gain on modern cameras clearly allows for it.
And I expect modern designs from Pentax will go in that direction, by providing you rather uncompromised and unique image quality, than fast aperture and unnecessary bulk. DA20-40 is such an example.
It's great that camera companies like Pentax are changing their design priorities to match the reality of current technology. It's the right thing to do.

But there are so many different use cases, and so many unique advantages and characteristics of faster lenses, that many of the reasons for using one have absolutely not changed at all, even if you're content to use only the latest bodies and sensors.
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It is so amazing that one can compute a rumor so accurately at 37%, 65%, and %51.
So ironic if you think about it.

Remind me the saying, "works 60% of the time, every time."

LOL

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I am going to attend WPPI March 3-5. Curiosity, when I first checked the exhibitor list I noticed the company was listed under Ricoh. When I revisited the list again a few days ago, it is now listed as Pentax.

I spent lot of time at the Ricoh booth at CES. On the last day I was there, one of the Ricoh/Pentax guys told me to expect nice surprises for WPPI one of which was a long zoom.
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I'm very interested in how Pentax changes its lens roadmap if two rumored lenses come out. If we get a rear converter as well, only one lens, the DA wide zoom, would be left to be announced in 2014 or later. Pentax could leave the lens roadmap untouched so that only the DA wide zoom is on the roadmap, which gets me wonder that Pentax is going to focus not on the K-mount but on the other mounts.

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I am going to attend WPPI March 3-5. Curiosity, when I first checked the exhibitor list I noticed the company was listed under Ricoh. When I revisited the list again a few days ago, it is now listed as Pentax.
Do you think maybe they listen?
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QuoteOriginally posted by DSims Quote
the end results are "wonderful IQ" vs. "wonderful IQ" for 1/3 to 1/2 the cost.
550/900 is more than one half.

But if you find the FA 20-35 "wonderful", that's OK with me.

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QuoteOriginally posted by twophase Quote
having most horrible day of my PhD thesis.... come on Ricoh, bring some sunshine with something new and fancy!!!!!
..sounds like you need to super-size that PhD with a new lens or two.
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3 new cameras in 2014 KL(retro style) , K60 and K600.
KL? I haven't heard that rumored moniker since 2009!
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Speaking about the rumored K-60, has Pentax ever implemented RGB metering on their DSLR? I don't remember any.
If Nikon has it (RGB metering) patented, I wonder how RP is gonna use it on their machine....
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QuoteOriginally posted by odyseuss Quote
Speaking about the rumored K-60, has Pentax ever implemented RGB metering on their DSLR? I don't remember any.
If Nikon has it (RGB metering) patented, I wonder how RP is gonna use it on their machine....
The K-3 has an 86,000-pixel RGB exposure meter. Is that the same as the Nikon system?
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I think K-60 24 MP based on K-50 and K-3's features
and 2 new lenses + TC are real

The rest things - we will see...
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The K-3 has an 86,000-pixel RGB exposure meter. Is that the same as the Nikon system?
Ah, I totally forgot about K-3. Thanks for the info
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having most horrible day of my PhD thesis.... come on Ricoh, bring some sunshine with something new and fancy!!!!!
one bite at a time!
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