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02-05-2014, 06:57 PM   #46
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
...maybe its worth more than the Canon too. I see no natural law stating that Pentax must be cheaper than Canon. If you want "cheap" Canon equipment, buy it....
For the bean counters in the company, this might be the new norm. We don't have as many people as Canikon in our ecosystem, so just by economies of scale,things will likely be more expensive for Ricoh to make back their R&D costs :-P

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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
  1. Fixed cast are the same as any other maker, but there will be fewer sales.
  2. The Pentax marketing hook to dealers is apparently, 'A Higher Profit Margin" than competitors.
That's good for the dealers...what's the incentive as a consumer?
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I think I'd pay up to $450 if it was optically exceptional.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
That's good for the dealers...what's the incentive as a consumer?
We get to finally see and hold a product before we buy it. Seems to me a lot of people complain about that. Unless something is priced where the dealers can make a profit selling it. Then they complain about the price.

I'd really hate to be John Carlson every morning.

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That's good for the dealers...what's the incentive as a consumer?
Long term sustainability of the K-mount system.
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You think?
He is complete wrong,comparable lens system like the most converters.
But complete Pentax.
And not the same type like the old prototype.
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QuoteOriginally posted by brosen Quote
It seems it does not have compatibility with the 18-135mm lens?
Better forget it,a wrong lens for a converter.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
We get to finally see and hold a product before we buy it. Seems to me a lot of people complain about that. Unless something is priced where the dealers can make a profit selling it. Then they complain about the price.

I'd really hate to be John Carlson every morning.
Of course people complain about the price. It is $100 more expensive than the Canikon version and doesn't offer anything more. People dont want to buy products just as charity to the Ricoh corporation so they can increase their and dealer's profitability at our expense.

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What was the first price of the Canon converter?
Not the same price what you will pay now in the internet
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QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man Quote
What was the first price of the Canon converter?
Not the same price what you will pay now in the internet
The canon EF 1.4X III had an MSRP of $499
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What was the first price of the Canon converter?
Nocan't e same price what you will pay now in the internet
What was the price of the DA* lenses when they were released? Since MAP, we cant expect prices to drop.
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Of course you can. Twice a year. Just like Nikon's.
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Looks like a good price in Europe (street price):
£199 - Sigma 1.4x EX DG APO Tele Converter (No WR)
£309 - Nikon TC-14E II 1.4X Teleconverter (No WR)
£349 - Sony 1.4x Teleconverter (No-WR)
£359 - Olympus EC-14 1.4X Four Thirds Teleconverter (WR)
£379 - Pentax HD PENTAX-DA AF Rear Converter 1.4X AW (WR)
£409 - Canon EF Mark III 1.4x Extender (WR)

So it places itself right in the middle of the modern WR crowd, only beaten by the smaller m4/3 Olympus.
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If your neighbor on your left murders people and your neighbor on your right murders people.. do you think it is OK for you to murder people?
That escalated quickly.
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That escalated quickly.
Yeah, that really got out of hand fast.
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