Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
02-05-2014, 05:56 PM   #16
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 20,436
QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
Pentax everywhere on the body... but they should make the camera add a small "ricoh" watermark to every raw-file...
Have you read the camera manufacturer line in the K3 files?

02-05-2014, 06:00 PM   #17
Pentaxian
Boris_Akunin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bremen, Germany
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 627
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Have you read the camera manufacturer line in the K3 files?
I don't mean in the EXIFs, I was thinking about the image...
02-05-2014, 06:01 PM   #18
Pentaxian




Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern California
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,181
They warned us ahead of time.

Makes sense in general. Ricoh figures they can simply lump them in with their existing compacts like the GR.


The probably think they're elevating the Pentax brand, and they may be right. After all, they've just promised a new 645D, and it uses the same sensor as Phase One and Hasselblad (and possibly even Leica). With the same sensor it's awfully hard to argue that the Pentax is inferior, as Phase One's done in the past (and they were partially correct at the time). Pentax is now clearly in company with the most elite names in the business, which are above Canon and Nikon.


Ricoh doesn't need the Pentax name dragged down by anything less than the Q - even if they're some of the better WR compacts out there.


Come to think of it, they may be elevating both brands, because these new WGs are now branded with (arguably) the best compacts in the business.

Last edited by DSims; 02-05-2014 at 06:13 PM.
02-05-2014, 06:05 PM   #19
Senior Member




Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 210
QuoteOriginally posted by DSims Quote
Pentax is now clearly in company with the most elite names in the business, which are above Canon and Nikon.
That's too much.

02-05-2014, 06:06 PM   #20
Inactive Account




Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North Carolina
Photos: Albums
Posts: 1,720
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
Which means if there's an MX-2 it will bear the name 'RICOH' ? Doesn't seem right
Just call it the XR-2 and make it all black instead.
02-05-2014, 06:08 PM   #21
Pentaxian
Boris_Akunin's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bremen, Germany
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 627
QuoteOriginally posted by elliott Quote
Just call it the XR-2 and make it all black instead.
Can't we just let the old names die instead of disgracing them with P&Ss?
02-05-2014, 06:12 PM   #22
Site Supporter
Eric Auer's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2012
Photos: Albums
Posts: 861
QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
Can't we just let the old names die instead of disgracing them with P&Ss?

Hahahhaaaa...................AMEN!
02-05-2014, 06:12 PM   #23
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 20,436
At least they haven't announced some cheap mirrorless 'L' camera.

02-05-2014, 06:13 PM - 1 Like   #24
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 3,311
The name doesn't concern me. I am confused why one name instead of two. Would not one name let marketing dollars go further? Can someone who understands marketing explain?

As an example, there's a "Ricoh" billboard in NYC Times Square. The money spent on that does little for the Pentax brand. Similarly, Pentax marketing won't increase visibility of Ricoh cameras. Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc. use a single brand for all cameras regardless of format.
02-05-2014, 06:18 PM   #25
Banned




Join Date: May 2010
Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,541
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve.Ledger Quote
Which means if there's an MX-2 it will bear the name 'RICOH' ? Doesn't seem right
It will not be named MX-2, most likely.
Perhaps the MX-1, together with the K-01, was just an experiment to gather whatever information they required and still keep market presence. Because, well, just look at those two cameras: they are two opposites. One is the post-modern futurism, the other a total retro.
02-05-2014, 06:19 PM   #26
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,450
QuoteOriginally posted by filoxophy Quote
Thanks for the post, Adam. Ricoh is certainly putting their stamp (pardon the pun) on Pentax, but it's getting harder and harder to argue that that's a bad thing! (IMHO, YMMV, etc etc)
Some folks consider that "Ricoh" on the back of the k-3 to be almost equivalent to a tramp stamp.

Yes, the k-3 is a great Pentax camera. But it's the first Pentax of a new era. The era of Ricoh. I think they fired a great shot right out of the gate. I hope to see more great stuff.
02-05-2014, 06:24 PM - 1 Like   #27
Site Supporter
boriscleto's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 12,872
QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
I don't mean in the EXIFs, I was thinking about the image...
Right at the center of focus.
02-05-2014, 06:30 PM - 1 Like   #28
Site Supporter
Kameko's Avatar

Join Date: May 2012
Location: White Rock
Photos: Albums
Posts: 431
were people this bitter and nit-picky when digital SLR's first came out too? As far as I'm concerned, it's the innards that count. Anyways, I'd much rather be sporting Ricoh on a camera body than Hoya.
02-05-2014, 06:31 PM   #29
Senior Member




Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 210
QuoteOriginally posted by DeadJohn Quote
The name doesn't concern me. I am confused why one name instead of two. Would not one name let marketing dollars go further? Can someone who understands marketing explain?

As an example, there's a "Ricoh" billboard in NYC Times Square. The money spent on that does little for the Pentax brand. Similarly, Pentax marketing won't increase visibility of Ricoh cameras. Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc. use a single brand for all cameras regardless of format.
Sony uses "Alpha" brand which it has inherited from Minolta. Pentax could be like that.
02-05-2014, 06:39 PM   #30
Site Supporter




Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Perrineville, NJ
Posts: 1,365
Oooh, good idea to offer those mounting accessories. Good competition with the GoPro stuff.

Adam, thanks for pointing out the quote from the PR Manager. I like this post!
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
brand, brands, business, cameras, consumer, contax, day, diameter, engineers, gxr, lcd, leica, name, option, pentax, pentax camera, pentax news, pentax rumors, pentax vs ricoh, products, rangefinder, register, ricoh, ricoh brand name, thread, tie, time, vs ricoh brand, wg-20, wg-4
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ricoh announces company name change - no more Pentax Ricoh Imaging, just Ricoh. rawr Pentax News and Rumors 528 10-28-2013 04:39 PM
Quality name brand lens filter Adk X Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 9 05-24-2012 06:47 PM
Facts about the Pentax brand name under Ricoh falconeye Pentax News and Rumors 276 08-30-2011 05:44 PM
Extra batteries for K-5: genuine Pentax or no-name brand? secateurs Pentax Camera and Field Accessories 6 10-18-2010 04:10 PM
Pentax K-R - rather interesting name - maybe it's digital version of Ricoh KR ogl Pentax News and Rumors 9 08-20-2010 11:48 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:22 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top