K-mount lens roadmap updated

Dr Orloff · 05-18-2014, 10:51 PM

I could not have imagined so much discussion about the colour of a line. Especially as I am colourblind and can't see any difference.

**woodywesty** · 05-19-2014, 09:16 AM

Wonder if the listed DA 135-370 will materialize this year yet?

Uluru · 05-19-2014, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by woodywesty

Wonder if the listed DA 135-370 will materialize this year yet?

Pentax has at least six (6) all new lenses ready, and some released during 2013, but all have been postponed for unknown reason by Ricoh. Perhaps they have one more important name change or company restructure in mind?
Only the DA20-40 has been released since last Fotokina, for obvious reason (to fill in the wide gap in HD DA Limiteds range).
Plus, the roadmap has been shuffled around many times, making everyone confused what is to be expected and what is the future of the mount. That infuriates users and that no new lens has been issued in the entire 2014 yet, when competitors release them in bunches, is irresponsible.
I find Ricoh's approach to its pet and pet's heritage to be anaesthetic. Why did not they euthanise it in the first place, instead of torturing slowly?

normhead · 05-19-2014, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Pentax has at least six (6) all new lenses ready, but all have been postponed for unknown reason by Ricoh. Perhaps they have one more name change or company structure in mind.

It's Executives trying to prove they actually do something. They have to justify those big salaries.

aurele · 05-19-2014, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

Pentax has at least six (6) all new lenses ready, and some released during 2013, but all have been postponed for unknown reason by Ricoh. Perhaps they have one more important name change or company restructure in mind?

Any clue of what it can be ?

Uluru · 05-19-2014, 05:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aurele

Any clue of what it can be ?

Perhaps Ricoh thinks it has to educate its puppy some more tricks puppy does not understand — as some Ricoh corporate fanboys around here would claim.

It is corporate bigotry, if you ask me. With their corporate shuffling of staff, endless rebranding, postponing of product launches etc. they show they had no idea what they have bought in 2011. They don't understand the passion side of this business, how promptly one needs to act and excite users, that body language is more important than empty official's talk. Their actions are anaesthetic, they put everyone to sleep — they bore the hell out of interviewers and all users who want things moving on.

But cameras aren't miniature copiers. Since many months ago all deciding men in product marketing are now from Ricoh's stable. Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup and Pentax cameras are men who never worked for Pentax in their life. They are now official talkers. And they say nothing. Let's see how they plan to excite Pentax customers. So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months.

DSims · 05-19-2014, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

It is corporate bigotry, if you ask me. With their corporate shuffling of staff, endless rebranding, postponing of product launches etc. they show they had no idea what they have bought in 2011. They don't understand the passion side of this business, how promptly one needs to act and excite users, that body language is more important than empty official's talk. Their actions are anaesthetic, they put everyone to sleep — they bore the hell out of interviewers and all users who want things moving on.

But cameras aren't miniature copiers. Since many months ago all deciding men in product marketing are now from Ricoh's stable. Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup and Pentax cameras are men who never worked for Pentax in their life. They are now official talkers. And they say nothing. Let's see how they plan to excite Pentax customers. So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months.

Interesting - Ricoh has never been successful at selling their own cameras, despite making some good ones.

lytrytyr · 05-19-2014, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months.

Better make that at least four in 15 months.

DA 560: February 2013
DA 20-40: December 2013
Q 08 : December 2013
D FA 645 90: April 2014

normhead · 05-19-2014, 07:05 PM - **1 Like**

The truth of the matter is they have more APS-c dedicated lenses than any other manufacturer, and the FA ltds that I don't own and can't yet afford. There are always people who want something from what different Pentax has to offer.. there are lot's of other manufacturers. Pentax doesn't have to be everything to all people.

With all due respect. If Pentax doesn't make what you want, buy what you want from whoever makes it. Most of us can live with that.

**monochrome** · 05-19-2014, 07:07 PM

All efforts shifted to 645z in February, 2014 - an unexpected and unprecedented hit for Ricoh / Pentax.

IchabodCrane · 05-19-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Better make that at least four in 15 months.

DA 560: February 2013
DA 20-40: December 2013
Q 08 : December 2013
D FA 645 90: April 2014

The title of the thread is "K-mount lens roadmap".

**woodywesty** · 05-19-2014, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Better make that at least four in 15 months.

DA 560: February 2013
DA 20-40: December 2013
Q 08 : December 2013
D FA 645 90: April 2014

Well.... I'd love to see a faster, longer lens than the wonderful DA*300 f4 but I suppose that if push comes to shove there will still be the Sigma 500mm for a long telephoto lens. Maybe Ricoh just doesn't want to compete in all areas with Nikon and Canon. Wish they would but I am happy that they have offered the K-3.

Bob

lytrytyr · 05-19-2014, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

The title of the thread is "K-mount lens roadmap".

Sure, but the sentence I quoted was in the context of the Pentax lens lineup:

Originally posted by Uluru

Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup . . . So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months.

. . . and it doesn't even hold up if you just restrict to K-mount lenses.

Uluru · 05-19-2014, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

Sure, but the sentence I quoted was in the context of the Pentax lens lineup:

. . . and it doesn't even hold up if you just restrict to K-mount lenses.

DA560 announced and presented at Fotokina 2012. When it came out is another embarrassment for Ricoh, not a “proof” that it came out 15 months ago.

Since DA560 announcement, only one lens design for K-mount was seen: DA20-40. And that is it.

No other manufacturer in their right state of mind would neglect their major camera mount as such. I was excited in October 2013 because there were indeed more than DA20-40 in the line to be shown with the K-3 (I had received specs for two), but alas! Nothing! Now even 7 months later, nothing! Even with K-3 on the shelves, no new lenses. Considering DA560 is design promised and designed under Hoya, under Ricoh we have had only one damned lens coming out! What kind of commitment to the K-mount is that? One new lens allowed reluctantly in almost three years of ownership?

It’s shocking. As a comparison, in 3 years Fujifilm has delivered all of its new X-mount cameras and all the lenses: they made nine of them while Ricoh "in its endless corporate wisdom" barely allowed one.

And no matter if PF users like this or not, and will the Ricoh fanboys jump in to defend the corporate mindset, but I can say Ricoh's change of management and planning for the K-mount is downright poor and ignorant.

Poit · 05-19-2014, 11:14 PM

I have also observed how quiet Pentax / Ricoh have been on the new lens front...but I view that as being a possible POSITIVE thing.

How many times have people here said "if they release a FF camera they need new lenses to go with it"?

So...why have they not released any new K-Mount lenses for a while? Perhaps they have been very busy developing new ones for.....

Just my musings...maybe I'm wrong...

05-19-2014, 09:16 AM	#272
woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	Roadmap and the DA 135 -370 Wonder if the listed DA 135-370 will materialize this year yet?

05-19-2014, 02:57 PM	#273
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by woodywesty Wonder if the listed DA 135-370 will materialize this year yet? Pentax has at least six (6) all new lenses ready, and some released during 2013, but all have been postponed for unknown reason by Ricoh. Perhaps they have one more important name change or company restructure in mind? Only the DA20-40 has been released since last Fotokina, for obvious reason (to fill in the wide gap in HD DA Limiteds range). Plus, the roadmap has been shuffled around many times, making everyone confused what is to be expected and what is the future of the mount. That infuriates users and that no new lens has been issued in the entire 2014 yet, when competitors release them in bunches, is irresponsible. I find Ricoh's approach to its pet and pet's heritage to be anaesthetic. Why did not they euthanise it in the first place, instead of torturing slowly? Last edited by Uluru; 05-19-2014 at 03:11 PM.

05-19-2014, 05:45 PM - 1 Like	#276
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by aurele Any clue of what it can be ? Perhaps Ricoh thinks it has to educate its puppy some more tricks puppy does not understand — as some Ricoh corporate fanboys around here would claim. It is corporate bigotry, if you ask me. With their corporate shuffling of staff, endless rebranding, postponing of product launches etc. they show they had no idea what they have bought in 2011. They don't understand the passion side of this business, how promptly one needs to act and excite users, that body language is more important than empty official's talk. Their actions are anaesthetic, they put everyone to sleep — they bore the hell out of interviewers and all users who want things moving on. But cameras aren't miniature copiers. Since many months ago all deciding men in product marketing are now from Ricoh's stable. Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup and Pentax cameras are men who never worked for Pentax in their life. They are now official talkers. And they say nothing. Let's see how they plan to excite Pentax customers. So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months. Last edited by Uluru; 05-19-2014 at 06:14 PM.

05-19-2014, 08:34 PM	#284
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by lytrytyr Sure, but the sentence I quoted was in the context of the Pentax lens lineup: . . . and it doesn't even hold up if you just restrict to K-mount lenses. DA560 announced and presented at Fotokina 2012. When it came out is another embarrassment for Ricoh, not a “proof” that it came out 15 months ago. Since DA560 announcement, only one lens design for K-mount was seen: DA20-40. And that is it. No other manufacturer in their right state of mind would neglect their major camera mount as such. I was excited in October 2013 because there were indeed more than DA20-40 in the line to be shown with the K-3 (I had received specs for two), but alas! Nothing! Now even 7 months later, nothing! Even with K-3 on the shelves, no new lenses. Considering DA560 is design promised and designed under Hoya, under Ricoh we have had only one damned lens coming out! What kind of commitment to the K-mount is that? One new lens allowed reluctantly in almost three years of ownership? It’s shocking. As a comparison, in 3 years Fujifilm has delivered all of its new X-mount cameras and all the lenses: they made nine of them while Ricoh "in its endless corporate wisdom" barely allowed one. And no matter if PF users like this or not, and will the Ricoh fanboys jump in to defend the corporate mindset, but I can say Ricoh's change of management and planning for the K-mount is downright poor and ignorant. Last edited by Uluru; 05-19-2014 at 10:10 PM.

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aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by Uluru Pentax has at least six (6) all new lenses ready, and some released during 2013, but all have been postponed for unknown reason by Ricoh. Perhaps they have one more important name change or company restructure in mind? Any clue of what it can be ?

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DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Uluru It is corporate bigotry, if you ask me. With their corporate shuffling of staff, endless rebranding, postponing of product launches etc. they show they had no idea what they have bought in 2011. They don't understand the passion side of this business, how promptly one needs to act and excite users, that body language is more important than empty official's talk. Their actions are anaesthetic, they put everyone to sleep — they bore the hell out of interviewers and all users who want things moving on. But cameras aren't miniature copiers. Since many months ago all deciding men in product marketing are now from Ricoh's stable. Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup and Pentax cameras are men who never worked for Pentax in their life. They are now official talkers. And they say nothing. Let's see how they plan to excite Pentax customers. So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months. Interesting - Ricoh has never been successful at selling their own cameras, despite making some good ones.

05-19-2014, 06:56 PM	#278
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by Uluru So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months. Better make that at least four in 15 months. DA 560: February 2013 DA 20-40: December 2013 Q 08 : December 2013 D FA 645 90: April 2014

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normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	The truth of the matter is they have more APS-c dedicated lenses than any other manufacturer, and the FA ltds that I don't own and can't yet afford. There are always people who want something from what different Pentax has to offer.. there are lot's of other manufacturers. Pentax doesn't have to be everything to all people. With all due respect. If Pentax doesn't make what you want, buy what you want from whoever makes it. Most of us can live with that.

05-19-2014, 07:07 PM	#280
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	All efforts shifted to 645z in February, 2014 - an unexpected and unprecedented hit for Ricoh / Pentax.

05-19-2014, 07:19 PM	#281
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by lytrytyr Better make that at least four in 15 months. DA 560: February 2013 DA 20-40: December 2013 Q 08 : December 2013 D FA 645 90: April 2014 The title of the thread is "K-mount lens roadmap".

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woodywesty Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Northern Wisconsin Posts: 725	Originally posted by lytrytyr Better make that at least four in 15 months. DA 560: February 2013 DA 20-40: December 2013 Q 08 : December 2013 D FA 645 90: April 2014 Well.... I'd love to see a faster, longer lens than the wonderful DA*300 f4 but I suppose that if push comes to shove there will still be the Sigma 500mm for a long telephoto lens. Maybe Ricoh just doesn't want to compete in all areas with Nikon and Canon. Wish they would but I am happy that they have offered the K-3. Bob

05-19-2014, 07:32 PM	#283
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by IchabodCrane The title of the thread is "K-mount lens roadmap". Sure, but the sentence I quoted was in the context of the Pentax lens lineup: Originally posted by Uluru Men in charge in planing of Pentax lens lineup . . . So far they "rave": one new lens released in 20 months. . . . and it doesn't even hold up if you just restrict to K-mount lenses.

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05-19-2014, 11:14 PM	#285
Poit Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 423	I have also observed how quiet Pentax / Ricoh have been on the new lens front...but I view that as being a possible POSITIVE thing. How many times have people here said "if they release a FF camera they need new lenses to go with it"? So...why have they not released any new K-Mount lenses for a while? Perhaps they have been very busy developing new ones for..... Just my musings...maybe I'm wrong...