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02-15-2014, 01:42 AM   #331
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I think mirrorless MF is a good idea. However i don't think they should reduce the size. I can't stand small mirrorless cameras with large lenses. It just feels badly balanced.

02-15-2014, 03:23 AM   #332
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QuoteOriginally posted by timcatn Quote
I think mirrorless MF is a good idea. However i don't think they should reduce the size. I can't stand small mirrorless cameras with large lenses. It just feels badly balanced.
Well, it already is an issue (moderate) for mirrorless APS and an issue (real) for mirrorless FF.
For MF or bigger...
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Mirrorless MF already exists, but it will cost you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
Well, it already is an issue (moderate) for mirrorless APS and an issue (real) for mirrorless FF.
For MF or bigger...
What issue ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
What issue ?
What I was replying to, (comparatively) big lens on small body.
NEX is funny already, A7R is too, MF with an MF lens with no proper handgrip ?
02-15-2014, 07:35 AM   #336
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QuoteOriginally posted by Zygonyx Quote
i don't think so.
Mirrorless compacity would only be effective for a very short range of focals.
Opérability of MF would not improve, nor ergonomics.
People have to stop thinking the moon is made of green cheese.
Mamiya 215220 7 II Medium 6x7 Rangefinder Value Pack 215-220

You only need 5 lenses, and yes it would be a specialty camera. MF is already a specialty format. Not every format needs to have the same lens range as 135. MF film range finders are still in production, and a few years ago I knew a couple of wedding professionals who used them for most of their work. Not every photographer is a spray & pray shooter with a bag of 100 lenses.

I would disagree that MF doesn't benefit for removing the mirror. MF has the most to gain. People using MF don't need 10 FPS with super fast AF-C. I have 5 lenses for my Contax 645 and I really don't need more than 3 for 95% of my work.

People need to stop being Luddites.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
What I was replying to, (comparatively) big lens on small body.
NEX is funny already, A7R is too, MF with an MF lens with no proper handgrip ?
It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras.
I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old?

None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses.


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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras.
The nature of consumer products being what it is (old people already have their stuff; young people buy what is 'different') it won't be long before nothing is made but small aperture lenses for skinny hipster mirrorless plates with single-mm register distances.

And young people will never know what they've missed.

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Any-way, don't fed us up with DEVIL (Digital Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lenses) in every sensor format .

If so, Sony, Panasonic and Fuji are your solutions providers. High prices for standard image quality... and irregular compacity.

Whilst Pentax/Ricoh has already well enough understood the coherence of DSLR-satz in Q or GR systems.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras.
Yep, young people only want phones.

And most old people really want skinny, shiny hipster plates with single-mm register distances and small aperture lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by timcatn Quote
I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old?

None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses.
I'm 27 and I prefer a dslr over the mirrorless system just for the balance in my hand.
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Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?
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Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?
I have not tried a MF viewfinder but i would think so. I very much prefer FF viewfinder over my K-5. However i have trouble seeing the problem with a giant high quality EVF.
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More details Pentax 645D II specifications and price report from CP+ | Photo Rumors

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