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KevinE · 02-24-2014, 09:39 AM

How many camera manufacturers use Sony sensors?

D1N0 · 03-03-2014, 10:21 AM

Hasselblads competitor has been launched. I am somehow a bit underwhelmed. H5D-50c

Daikokuya · 03-03-2014, 11:07 AM

Yup. The new 645D would cost one-fourth of Hassy though both have the same Sony sensor.

jon404 · 03-03-2014, 11:31 AM

That is a shocking price difference. Two questions -- will the 645D-II easily tether to a computer, and -- when is the actual launch date, so we can get some facts about all this?

P.S. taking my savings against the Hasselblad, I can go on safari in darkest Florida, shoot an alligator, and have it processed into a new 'skin' for the 645D-II, along with a polished mango tree grip with an etched Ferrari logo... and still have enough money left over for a trip to Disneyworld to cover the next Hasselblad owners convention... where I'll fit right in.

Kunzite · 03-03-2014, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Daikokuya

Yup. The new 645D would cost one-fourth of Hassy though both have the same Sony sensor.

I doubt the 645D will only cost $6.875. Do you have any information, or you're just guessing?

Daikokuya · 03-03-2014, 11:44 AM

Nobody knows the final specs except for a few in Pentax. I hope everything will be out in April.

---------- Post added 03-03-14 at 12:14 PM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

I doubt the 645D will only cost $6.875. Do you have any information, or you're just guessing?

Hassy is a little bit cheaper than what I heard before. "One-third" could be more precise.

Kunzite · 03-03-2014, 12:51 PM

That would be more or less the original 645D's price, which sounds plausible. Thanks for the clarification.

GuidoK · 03-15-2014, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

New Pentax 645D2014 also uses the 50MP Sony CMOS sensor! | sonyalpharumors

Heard it should be available in Summer, before Photokina.

itshimitis · 03-15-2014, 06:42 AM

I'm on the edge of my seat as i am due back in Japan in September, and should be able to get it for a better price there than in the UK as was the case with the original 645D I bought at Ydabashi camera in the Akihabara district of Tokyo....

wullemaha · 03-15-2014, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by itshimitis

I'm on the edge of my seat as i am due back in Japan in September, and should be able to get it for a better price there than in the UK as was the case with the original 645D I bought at Ydabashi camera in the Akihabara district of Tokyo....

Write me a message when you are here and buy it, so I can try it

I will not be able to afford more than a look at my various trips to Yodobashi Camera...

Cheers,
René

philbaum · 03-16-2014, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Hasselblads competitor has been launched. I am somehow a bit underwhelmed. H5D-50c

Compared to recent K3, the hasselblad specs seem so dated, for example:

Shutter range: 12 minutes to 1/800 sec
The 1/800 isn't that impressive altho i would like the 12 min slow shutter :-)

ISO: ISO 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 & 6400
OK i guess, upper end seems more limited than it needs to be

Focusing metering: EV1 to EV19
K3 is capable of AF to -3 EV This seems a big advantage to Pentax - not sure what specs will be for 645D II

But it seems like Pentax is right to continue pursuit of this niche.

thibs · 03-16-2014, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by philbaum

Compared to recent K3, the hasselblad specs seem so dated, for example:

Shutter range: 12 minutes to 1/800 sec
The 1/800 isn't that impressive altho i would like the 12 min slow shutter :-)

ISO: ISO 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 & 6400
OK i guess, upper end seems more limited than it needs to be

Focusing metering: EV1 to EV19
K3 is capable of AF to -3 EV This seems a big advantage to Pentax - not sure what specs will be for 645D II

But it seems like Pentax is right to continue pursuit of this niche.

Yep except the shutter is AFAICT a leaf shutter embedded in the lenses which has it huge advantages too.

jon404 · 03-16-2014, 11:33 PM

Yes -- the two cameras are really Apples and Oranges. The Hasselblad leaf shutter really lets you work with flash... and their interchangeable backs are very popular with their users. However! For new folks coming into medium-format, who haven't invested in those lenses yet, the new 645D-II may present an overwhelming price advantage.

Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right?

itshimitis · 03-17-2014, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by jon404

Yes -- the two cameras are really Apples and Oranges. The Hasselblad leaf shutter really lets you work with flash... and their interchangeable backs are very popular with their users. However! For new folks coming into medium-format, who haven't invested in those lenses yet, the new 645D-II may present an overwhelming price advantage.

Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right?

Not necessarily. The original 645D is weather sealed and has been used in extreme weather. I use mine for landscapes, so don't need fast fps - handy to have but I didn't buy it for that.

RonHendriks1966 · 03-17-2014, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by jon404

Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right?

I would say for mostly yes, but you can do whatever you want with a 645D:

Userreview with 645D (85 images)

This is an image from the Spanish team that became European Champion in 2012.

The image is popular and went around in synchroworld a lot.

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02-24-2014, 09:39 AM	#406
KevinE Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 42	How many camera manufacturers use Sony sensors?

03-03-2014, 10:21 AM	#407
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Hasselblads competitor has been launched. I am somehow a bit underwhelmed. H5D-50c

03-03-2014, 11:07 AM	#408
Daikokuya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 210	Yup. The new 645D would cost one-fourth of Hassy though both have the same Sony sensor.

03-03-2014, 11:31 AM	#409
jon404 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 696	That is a shocking price difference. Two questions -- will the 645D-II easily tether to a computer, and -- when is the actual launch date, so we can get some facts about all this? P.S. taking my savings against the Hasselblad, I can go on safari in darkest Florida, shoot an alligator, and have it processed into a new 'skin' for the 645D-II, along with a polished mango tree grip with an etched Ferrari logo... and still have enough money left over for a trip to Disneyworld to cover the next Hasselblad owners convention... where I'll fit right in.

03-03-2014, 11:44 AM	#410
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,131	Originally posted by Daikokuya Yup. The new 645D would cost one-fourth of Hassy though both have the same Sony sensor. I doubt the 645D will only cost $6.875. Do you have any information, or you're just guessing?

03-03-2014, 11:44 AM	#411
Daikokuya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 210	Nobody knows the final specs except for a few in Pentax. I hope everything will be out in April. ---------- Post added 03-03-14 at 12:14 PM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite I doubt the 645D will only cost $6.875. Do you have any information, or you're just guessing? Hassy is a little bit cheaper than what I heard before. "One-third" could be more precise.

03-03-2014, 12:51 PM	#412
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,131	That would be more or less the original 645D's price, which sounds plausible. Thanks for the clarification.

03-15-2014, 02:12 AM	#413
GuidoK New Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cologne Posts: 5	Originally posted by jogiba New Pentax 645D2014 also uses the 50MP Sony CMOS sensor! \| sonyalpharumors Heard it should be available in Summer, before Photokina.

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itshimitis Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: All over the place Posts: 3,485	I'm on the edge of my seat as i am due back in Japan in September, and should be able to get it for a better price there than in the UK as was the case with the original 645D I bought at Ydabashi camera in the Akihabara district of Tokyo....

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wullemaha Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Tokyo Posts: 503	Originally posted by itshimitis I'm on the edge of my seat as i am due back in Japan in September, and should be able to get it for a better price there than in the UK as was the case with the original 645D I bought at Ydabashi camera in the Akihabara district of Tokyo.... Write me a message when you are here and buy it, so I can try it I will not be able to afford more than a look at my various trips to Yodobashi Camera... Cheers, René

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03-16-2014, 12:38 PM	#416
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by D1N0 Hasselblads competitor has been launched. I am somehow a bit underwhelmed. H5D-50c Compared to recent K3, the hasselblad specs seem so dated, for example: Shutter range: 12 minutes to 1/800 sec The 1/800 isn't that impressive altho i would like the 12 min slow shutter :-) ISO: ISO 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 & 6400 OK i guess, upper end seems more limited than it needs to be Focusing metering: EV1 to EV19 K3 is capable of AF to -3 EV This seems a big advantage to Pentax - not sure what specs will be for 645D II But it seems like Pentax is right to continue pursuit of this niche.

03-16-2014, 11:13 PM	#417
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,000	Originally posted by philbaum Compared to recent K3, the hasselblad specs seem so dated, for example: Shutter range: 12 minutes to 1/800 sec The 1/800 isn't that impressive altho i would like the 12 min slow shutter :-) ISO: ISO 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 & 6400 OK i guess, upper end seems more limited than it needs to be Focusing metering: EV1 to EV19 K3 is capable of AF to -3 EV This seems a big advantage to Pentax - not sure what specs will be for 645D II But it seems like Pentax is right to continue pursuit of this niche. Yep except the shutter is AFAICT a leaf shutter embedded in the lenses which has it huge advantages too.

03-16-2014, 11:33 PM	#418
jon404 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 696	Yes -- the two cameras are really Apples and Oranges. The Hasselblad leaf shutter really lets you work with flash... and their interchangeable backs are very popular with their users. However! For new folks coming into medium-format, who haven't invested in those lenses yet, the new 645D-II may present an overwhelming price advantage. Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right?

03-17-2014, 02:07 AM	#419
itshimitis Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: All over the place Posts: 3,485	Originally posted by jon404 Yes -- the two cameras are really Apples and Oranges. The Hasselblad leaf shutter really lets you work with flash... and their interchangeable backs are very popular with their users. However! For new folks coming into medium-format, who haven't invested in those lenses yet, the new 645D-II may present an overwhelming price advantage. Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right? Not necessarily. The original 645D is weather sealed and has been used in extreme weather. I use mine for landscapes, so don't need fast fps - handy to have but I didn't buy it for that.

03-17-2014, 09:22 AM	#420
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by jon404 Unless I'm wrong, we are really looking at a camera for indoor studio use, right? I would say for mostly yes, but you can do whatever you want with a 645D: Userreview with 645D (85 images) This is an image from the Spanish team that became European Champion in 2012. The image is popular and went around in synchroworld a lot.