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02-06-2014, 10:04 AM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by Wired Quote
meanwhile banks are being robbed in proximity to many Pentax enthusiasts in anticipation of the new 645D camera system. 35mm Full Frame grumblings have been replaced with 6x4.5mm grumblings. chaos ensues. riots erupt in the streets. all footage captured on a "full frame" Q7.
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.

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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
bahahahahahaha! oh my, now we can start another "wheres my full frame" thread. looks like Pentax just enjoys the crop. Sorry folks, nothing to see here. We just like to magnify.


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Gorgeous, but...

QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
It is actually far more serious than the lack of FF in K-mount. There are fewer lenses for 645 with the risk of making your lens collection awkward with a cropped sensor. In addition, there is the wide angle issue: the 25mm weights in excess of 1kg and costs $5000 - both factors makes it totally uninteresting for me. I'm not willing to carry this sort of bulk and weight, in addition to a large and heavy camera + the other lenses, not to mention the cost.

BTW I have a 645NII with four lenses: 33-55, 75, 120 Macro and the 150-300. I don't use it but I'm definitely interested in the 645 digital system. Too expensive so far....
I'd like to see them get the price down SUBSTANTIALLY...then they'd REALLY gain market share. Get it down to the range of the big Nikon and Canon full-frames...

And then Pål could get one!

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I don't see any movie button and, also, no Ricoh brand anywhere, as far as I can see. In exchange, a very big Pentax brand on the front, It seems that Ricoh are sensible to public reaction.

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Ah ok,

I was presuming there might be a dedicated optic in it, since it appears quite a bit larger than the old film copier/macro nbellows units I'm used to. I suppose the question then becomes, what is the thread size for the attachment? Stepping down to a 35mm/APS-C format macro should be easy enough, but would stepping up to a 645 macro with its larger filter size lead to cutting off mof part of the image?

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It's just a bellow, you can put a Q behind it. The question is how much it will cost, and, if you have not 6x7 slides to reproduce, if it's not better to buy an old bellow with repro accessory on the bay.
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Form my experience using a macro lens to photograph negs and slides, resolution can be substantially better than even a dedicated, Coolscan-style scanner if you use a high quality, flat field macro lens (e.g. FA50mm macro) and stitching, but dynamic range suffers.

Here's a guy who used a similar approach, with some examples of his results:
How to Scan Your Film Using a Digital Camera and Macro Lens

Of course, neither will likely compare to what you can get from a drum scanner, but at a minimum of $25 per scan, who can really afford that as a bulk solution?


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Again, does anyone know how this compare to a film scanner?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
44X33mm sensors are rather common in MF digital backs, Full frame 645 is somewhat of a niche area. Mostly due to the steep increase in cost - not only in the camera but also on lenses that have decent edge-to-edge image quality.
Indeed "full 645" digital sensors are a niche within the niche but you don't mention the 36x48 sensors which are in-between and quite well represented.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
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How about that tilting screen. That's a real photo-beginners-item I guess.
...but quite useful for portrait photography, in particularly on tripod.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rangercarp Quote
What are the dimensions of this sensor compared to the current 645d sensor? I was under the impression that is is larger while still be slightly cropped.
The same: 33x44mm.
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extra! extra! new 645D model from Pentax does not include Ricoh name on the body, but does have a waist level finder! people run the other way because its a beginner model
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
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I'm not willing to carry this sort of bulk and weight, in addition to a large and heavy camera + the other lenses, not to mention the cost.

... I'm definitely interested in the 645 digital system. Too expensive so far....
Just don't bring the small format mentality to medium format and you'll do fine. And how can you be interested in the system if it is: A) too expensive and B) too big and bulky?

If you want to shoot MFD, man up, buck up and carry the gear!
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
I don't think so .

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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
I don't think so .
Just as neatly as Full frame in e-mount
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
It doesn't - at least not without removing the electronic contacts.
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