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02-06-2014, 10:07 AM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
bahahahahahaha! oh my, now we can start another "wheres my full frame" thread. looks like Pentax just enjoys the crop. Sorry folks, nothing to see here. We just like to magnify.


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Gorgeous, but...

QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
It is actually far more serious than the lack of FF in K-mount. There are fewer lenses for 645 with the risk of making your lens collection awkward with a cropped sensor. In addition, there is the wide angle issue: the 25mm weights in excess of 1kg and costs $5000 - both factors makes it totally uninteresting for me. I'm not willing to carry this sort of bulk and weight, in addition to a large and heavy camera + the other lenses, not to mention the cost.

BTW I have a 645NII with four lenses: 33-55, 75, 120 Macro and the 150-300. I don't use it but I'm definitely interested in the 645 digital system. Too expensive so far....
I'd like to see them get the price down SUBSTANTIALLY...then they'd REALLY gain market share. Get it down to the range of the big Nikon and Canon full-frames...

And then Pål could get one!

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I don't see any movie button and, also, no Ricoh brand anywhere, as far as I can see. In exchange, a very big Pentax brand on the front, It seems that Ricoh are sensible to public reaction.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Digitalis Quote
44X33mm sensors are rather common in MF digital backs, Full frame 645 is somewhat of a niche area. Mostly due to the steep increase in cost - not only in the camera but also on lenses that have decent edge-to-edge image quality.
Indeed "full 645" digital sensors are a niche within the niche but you don't mention the 36x48 sensors which are in-between and quite well represented.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
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How about that tilting screen. That's a real photo-beginners-item I guess.
...but quite useful for portrait photography, in particularly on tripod.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rangercarp Quote
What are the dimensions of this sensor compared to the current 645d sensor? I was under the impression that is is larger while still be slightly cropped.
The same: 33x44mm.
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extra! extra! new 645D model from Pentax does not include Ricoh name on the body, but does have a waist level finder! people run the other way because its a beginner model
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
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I'm not willing to carry this sort of bulk and weight, in addition to a large and heavy camera + the other lenses, not to mention the cost.

... I'm definitely interested in the 645 digital system. Too expensive so far....
Just don't bring the small format mentality to medium format and you'll do fine. And how can you be interested in the system if it is: A) too expensive and B) too big and bulky?

If you want to shoot MFD, man up, buck up and carry the gear!

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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
I don't think so .

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QuoteOriginally posted by jogiba Quote
I don't think so .
Just as neatly as Full frame in e-mount
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
Actually an aps-c sensor would fit in the q-mount.
It doesn't - at least not without removing the electronic contacts.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Looks great, but expensive.
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It could be quite expensive indeed.

PhaseOne IQ140 digital back, with the same Kodak / Truesense Imaging CCD sensor as in Pentax 645D, was launched in 2011 at a price of $22,000 / €17,000.

PhaseOne IQ250 digital back, just announced with the same Sony CMOS sensor as in Pentax 645D 2014, is launched at a price of $35,000 / €25,000.

This represents roughly a 50% increase in price.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
It could be quite expensive indeed.

PhaseOne IQ140 digital back, with the same Kodak / Truesense Imaging CCD sensor as in Pentax 645D, was launched in 2011 at a price of $22,000 / €17,000.

PhaseOne IQ250 digital back, just announced with the same Sony CMOS sensor as in Pentax 645D 2014, is launched at a price of $35,000 / €25,000.

This represents roughly a 50% increase in price.

That must be one Very, very expensive sensor? Wont PhaseOne be pissed when Pentax sell's there 645D for 20,000 less.
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That must be one Very, very expensive sensor? Wont PhaseOne be pissed when Pentax sell's there 645D for 20,000 less.
Or maybe more so the PhaseOne users. Maybe some will even switch to Pentax.
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