New Pentax 645D2014 also uses the 50MP Sony CMOS sensor!

Zygonyx · 02-15-2014, 08:27 AM

Any-way, don't fed us up with DEVIL (Digital Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lenses) in every sensor format .

If so, Sony, Panasonic and Fuji are your solutions providers. High prices for standard image quality... and irregular compacity.

Whilst Pentax/Ricoh has already well enough understood the coherence of DSLR-satz in Q or GR systems.

**monochrome** · 02-15-2014, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras.

Yep, young people only want phones.

And most old people really want skinny, shiny hipster plates with single-mm register distances and small aperture lenses.

JinDesu · 02-15-2014, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by timcatn

I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old?

None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses.

I'm 27 and I prefer a dslr over the mirrorless system just for the balance in my hand.

derekkite · 02-15-2014, 09:10 AM

Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?

timcatn · 02-15-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?

I have not tried a MF viewfinder but i would think so. I very much prefer FF viewfinder over my K-5. However i have trouble seeing the problem with a giant high quality EVF.

D1N0 · 02-15-2014, 10:15 AM

More details Pentax 645D II specifications and price report from CP+ | Photo Rumors

Quote:

DC.Watch published another report from the CP+ show in Japan on the specifications and price of the new Pentax 645D II medium format camera:

40 - 50 MP sensor
SAFOX XI AF module
Frame rate: 3 fps
Highest ISO: 102400 or 204800
Shutter life: 100,000
Live view (movie function possible)
USB 3.0 support for tethered shooting
Price around 10,000 USD
Release date in mid April 2014

JinDesu · 02-15-2014, 10:17 AM

Whoah, 3FPS and ISO 102,400... and $10k!? That's a pretty good price!

jogiba · 02-15-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by timcatn

I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old?

None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses.

You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo.
Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70

ElJamoquio · 02-15-2014, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by derekkite

Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?

Of course. It's amazing, really. Would be even better with fast glass but it's still way better than my MX, which has one of the best viewfinders ever made for 135.

timcatn · 02-15-2014, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo.
Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70

True enough, that is why I was careful to say large aperature, AND long focal lengths. These samples are all good (taken in fairly strong light), but not really great technical quality if we are honest. But compared to the cost of a FZ70 one can not complain

Fully extended i would say the lens on the Fz70 is kind huge.

Just imagine a Nex with a Sigma 50-500. The balance will be awful.

**monochrome** · 02-15-2014, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo.
Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70

Yikes!

jogiba · 02-15-2014, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by timcatn

True enough, that is why I was careful to say large aperature, AND long focal lengths. These samples are all good (taken in fairly strong light), but not really great technical quality if we are honest. But compared to the cost of a FZ70 one can not complain

Fully extended i would say the lens on the Fz70 is kind huge.

Just imagine a Nex with a Sigma 50-500. The balance will be awful.

Do you know of any small 1200mm eqiv lenses ? Most people use the 50-500 on a monopod or tripod so what is the problem ?

timcatn · 02-15-2014, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Do you know of any small 1200mm eqiv lenses ? Most people use the 50-500 on a monopod or tripod so what is the problem ?

No i don't know of any. That was the point. If you want tele and large apperature, MILC gives clumsy handling. Even if I use a DA lens on the Q10 a 1200mm equivalent will be large if i want decent maximum aperature. I can always use the FA 80-200/4.7-5.6, but the quality will be bad. Lots of people have posted great pictures handheld with the big Sigmas. 50-500, 150-500 and 500.

Of course 1200mm is extreme, but even a lens like the DA*300 feels weird on something as small as the NEX.

Serpiente · 02-15-2014, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

More details Pentax 645D II specifications and price report from CP+ | Photo Rumors

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That is hardly a report. Lets wait for the official presentation.

**filoxophy** · 02-15-2014, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Serpiente

That is hardly a report. Lets wait for the official presentation.

Yes... and when is that official presentation/interview/what have you?

02-15-2014, 08:32 AM	#332
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by jogiba It's mainly older people that want big DSLRs in 2014 and many want the much smaller APS-C full frame cameras. Yep, young people only want phones. And most old people really want skinny, shiny hipster plates with single-mm register distances and small aperture lenses. Last edited by Parallax; 02-15-2014 at 09:56 AM.

02-15-2014, 10:15 AM	#336
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	More details Pentax 645D II specifications and price report from CP+ \| Photo Rumors Quote: DC.Watch published another report from the CP+ show in Japan on the specifications and price of the new Pentax 645D II medium format camera: 40 - 50 MP sensor SAFOX XI AF module Frame rate: 3 fps Highest ISO: 102400 or 204800 Shutter life: 100,000 Live view (movie function possible) USB 3.0 support for tethered shooting Price around 10,000 USD Release date in mid April 2014

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02-15-2014, 08:27 AM	#331
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Any-way, don't fed us up with DEVIL (Digital Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lenses) in every sensor format . If so, Sony, Panasonic and Fuji are your solutions providers. High prices for standard image quality... and irregular compacity. Whilst Pentax/Ricoh has already well enough understood the coherence of DSLR-satz in Q or GR systems.

02-15-2014, 09:04 AM	#333
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by timcatn I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old? None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses. I'm 27 and I prefer a dslr over the mirrorless system just for the balance in my hand.

02-15-2014, 09:10 AM	#334
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder?

02-15-2014, 09:25 AM	#335
timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	Originally posted by derekkite Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder? I have not tried a MF viewfinder but i would think so. I very much prefer FF viewfinder over my K-5. However i have trouble seeing the problem with a giant high quality EVF.

02-15-2014, 10:17 AM	#337
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Whoah, 3FPS and ISO 102,400... and $10k!? That's a pretty good price!

02-15-2014, 10:28 AM	#338
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by timcatn I'm 31 and fairly new to this hobby. Does that qualify as old? None of the people i know that has bought mirrorless (nex and olympus mainly) have any large apperature tele lenses. You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo. Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70

02-15-2014, 10:34 AM	#339
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873 Original Poster	Originally posted by derekkite Isn't one of the features of the 645D it's superb viewfinder? Of course. It's amazing, really. Would be even better with fast glass but it's still way better than my MX, which has one of the best viewfinders ever made for 135.

02-15-2014, 10:59 AM	#340
timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	Originally posted by jogiba You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo. Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70 True enough, that is why I was careful to say large aperature, AND long focal lengths. These samples are all good (taken in fairly strong light), but not really great technical quality if we are honest. But compared to the cost of a FZ70 one can not complain Fully extended i would say the lens on the Fz70 is kind huge. Just imagine a Nex with a Sigma 50-500. The balance will be awful.

02-15-2014, 11:25 AM	#341
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by jogiba You don't need a huge lens to take a a long distance photo. Flickr Search: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70 Yikes!

02-15-2014, 12:45 PM	#342
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by timcatn True enough, that is why I was careful to say large aperature, AND long focal lengths. These samples are all good (taken in fairly strong light), but not really great technical quality if we are honest. But compared to the cost of a FZ70 one can not complain Fully extended i would say the lens on the Fz70 is kind huge. Just imagine a Nex with a Sigma 50-500. The balance will be awful. Do you know of any small 1200mm eqiv lenses ? Most people use the 50-500 on a monopod or tripod so what is the problem ?

02-15-2014, 02:14 PM	#343
timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	Originally posted by jogiba Do you know of any small 1200mm eqiv lenses ? Most people use the 50-500 on a monopod or tripod so what is the problem ? No i don't know of any. That was the point. If you want tele and large apperature, MILC gives clumsy handling. Even if I use a DA lens on the Q10 a 1200mm equivalent will be large if i want decent maximum aperature. I can always use the FA 80-200/4.7-5.6, but the quality will be bad. Lots of people have posted great pictures handheld with the big Sigmas. 50-500, 150-500 and 500. Of course 1200mm is extreme, but even a lens like the DA*300 feels weird on something as small as the NEX.

02-15-2014, 04:54 PM	#344
Serpiente Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 154	Originally posted by D1N0 More details Pentax 645D II specifications and price report from CP+ \| Photo Rumors [/COLOR][/LEFT] That is hardly a report. Lets wait for the official presentation.

02-15-2014, 05:06 PM	#345
filoxophy Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,132	Originally posted by Serpiente That is hardly a report. Lets wait for the official presentation. Yes... and when is that official presentation/interview/what have you?