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02-24-2014, 11:09 AM   #46
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The patent doc makes Interesting reading ....

02-24-2014, 04:02 PM   #47
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QuoteOriginally posted by KevinE Quote
Seems like there is a lot of interesting information available if you are willing to read through patent applications, and I'm sure this is some exciting reading.
I don't think so.Interesting conclusions from boring readings maybe.
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For one, I'd love an APS-C 24mm, either f2 or f2.8. The wife's fuji 100x is in danger of being appropriated.
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2/24

This lens is totally overdue. The only modern large aperture lens in Pentax-land is the 1.4/55mm.
I hope they realize in theri design that the 55mm lens has a 58mm filter thread and SDM focusing.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
This lens is totally overdue. The only modern large aperture lens in Pentax-land is the 1.4/55mm.
I hope they realize in theri design that the 55mm lens has a 58mm filter thread and SDM focusing.
I agree...~36mm equivalent is very useful.
But at f2 or faster it would have to be big, and PRIC does not seem to be willing to sacrifice speed for size.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
I agree...~36mm equivalent is very useful.
But at f2 or faster it would have to be big, and PRIC does not seem to be willing to sacrifice speed for size.
That depends if it is a DA Limited or a DA*
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QuoteOriginally posted by NotaxPen Quote
That depends if it is a DA Limited or a DA*
PRIC has not released a fast lens since Ricoh has taken over. The DA 50mm was the last one but that was Hoya
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Their stated (somewhat inferred) intent is no fast lenses.

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Their stated (as in: actual statement) intent is no faster than 1/4 lenses.
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It will be interesting to see if Pentax ever again builds a lens that is to the spec of their competition's fastest lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Their stated (as in: actual statement) intent is no faster than 1/4 lenses.
I know you're one of the least objective posters, but if you read the entire question and response, surely even you can come to the conclusion that fast lenses, not just faster than f1.4, are not a priority.

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Question 10: Looking at your current DA lens lineup, there are many offerings, but only one lens with an aperture of F1.4 or faster. Historically, Pentax lenses have always focused on compactness over speed. Is this still your design philosophy for K-mount lenses?

Compactness, not only the camera body, but the whole SLR system, is one of our advantages. On top of that, the level of high ISO sensitivity and the quality of image processing is far better than it used to be. So for the moment, producing lenses faster than 1.4 is not our first priority.
Why would he go out of his way to point out:
Compactness
High ISO sensitivity
Quality of image processing
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He very much states that compactness and not speed is the priority. So a lens such as a 24mm f2 is not happening because it would not be compact ( and according to him not required due to high ISO sensitivity and better processing).
So a 24mm f3.5 would be much more likely.
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If it is a GR in various focal lengths, then it is the same/similar approach as Sigma's in theirs DP1, DP2, and DP3.
Not same approach as Sigma, the same approach as Ricoh. The GXR 28mm and the GXR 50mm cameras was Ricoh already using this approach. Even had the clever idea of interchangeable backs for them so you didn't have to buy/use whole separate back/settings//battery/card/etc for each camera as per the Sigmas. So that means Ricoh would have abandoned the GXR system in favour of just making them as individual cameras instead as Sigma does.

But they haven't. SImply because they could have already done that 2 years ago even without great effort simply by fusing the GXR camera and body units into a single unit. So why has it taken them more than two years just to do some standard Sigma-like fixed lens cameras like that to replace the GXR when they would actually be easier and quicker to make than the GXR itself was, and they were churning two of those GXR camera units out a year?

So the absence of any such camera having already appeared long since they stopped developing the GXR tells me they've been spending their time instead on coming up with something completely new to replace the GXR - likely a new 'GX' MILC system.

PS. Also if I recall correctly, the mention of a range of GR cameras by the Ricoh exec at the time inferred a zoom as per the GX200 cousin of the old GRD, and possibly a monochrome version as per Leica. He said nothing to indicate anything like a series of Sigma-like cameras of different prime focal lengths, which was mostly just wishful thinking expressed on the DPR forums at the time and continually ever since.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
So a 24mm f3.5 would be much more likely.
We already have that, in the DA 20-40 2.8-4 Limited zoom.
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GR needs to have faster lens. 35mm/f2 (135 equivalent), or a 45/50mm f1.8 (135 equivalent).

Love to have a GR but the current focal length and speed is not what I prefer...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nigli Quote
For one, I'd love an APS-C 24mm, either f2 or f2.8. The wife's fuji 100x is in danger of being appropriated.
Same here. I have some old M42 primes. Two 28mm and a 25mm and I use them regularly. I would love a modern AF prime from Pentax in that focal range. A 24mm would be perfect as a ton of my zoom shots tend to be at 24mm.
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