Originally posted by Tom Lusk "Yup that D300 sure does stomp the snot out of your K100D... You even try a K20D? Walter gets some amazing shots with it and even BIF which I thought was impossible from what many people have proclaimed over the years."
You're right as always, Chris. The D300 does "stomp the snot" out of my trusty Pentax.
Did I even try a K20D? No! Why would I? If I took the time I could find the PM from you that explained that Pentax didn't make any of the changes I was looking for in the areas of focus, speed and buffer size. So, for my needs, Pentax twice has come out with new top-of-their-line cameras that were of no use to me. Why on earth would I buy one. I'm sure everyone is well aware of all the posts where those looking for cameras/lenses that were competitive feature-wise for wildlife/sports and had bought Pentax K10's and 20's were ridiculed saying they
should have known Pentax was not interested in those markets. You know the ones - only poor photographers need speed. Good photographers wait for that precise millisecond before making the perfect shot.
If you'll look at my PPG -
PENTAX Photo Gallery
you'll see I've managed a few BIF shots (I've got a 100 or so more decent ones, too), but you know what? For every shot made, there were hundreds that were OOF or that I couldn't even get a focus lock at all to allow the shot due to the poor AF characteristics of my camera. This is in good light. I wouldn't even bother trying in poor light.
I held on for a couple of years, though, hoping that Pentax would address these shortcomings, but no such luck. So my only option was to go to another manufacturer (after 40 years of using Pentax products), and I'm glad I did as I no longer have to wait for a camera that lets me do what I want to. I've got it!
As for Walter's bird photos, they are the best I've seen by any Pentax user. Too bad he uses a $4000.00 SIGMA 500mm lense most of the time now, as it holds out false hopes for those who want to do as well, using strictly Pentax equipment. So much for the Pentax is just as good as Canon or Nikon, but a lot cheaper line.
"Oh the FA*300 f4.5 is not going to compete with the Nikkor 300, you're talking apples to oranges. Bargain 300 versus a top Nikon lens????"
Perhaps, Chris you are not familiar with the FA*300?
Widely accepted as one of the best long lenses ever produced by Pentax, if you'll do some research. Sells used in the $1000.00 range, if you can find one. The new DA*300 hopefully will match the optical performance, and will sell for even more - approx. $1300.00, I believe, at stores like yours where pride is taken in selling at full MSRP.
My Nikon AFS 300mm f4.0 cost a little over $800.00. Can be found everywhere for
well less than $1300.00.
Similarly the D300 has come down in price and can be found for under $1600. Add that to the cost of the 300mm, and the overall price favours Nikon vs your store price for the K20 and DA*300.
As Gruoso has pointed out, Pentax no longer is a clear "value leader", although anyone reading Pentax fora would come to the conclusion that you have to sell your first-born to own decent Canon or Nikon equipment.
Times have changed...
PS- I'll be keeping my camera and FA*300 as a knock-around combo that I take to work, so don't be looking for them on eBay. Everything else will be going up later this week if I get the time.
The Pentax FA* 300 f4.5 is a marginally OK lens from what I've seen on digital. It's not as high caliber in terms of resolution as the Nikkor, but compare the 300 f2.8's from either brand and you'll see a MASSIVE difference swayed towards Pentax. Not too mention the resolution of the D300 is much higher than the 6MP K100D... about 100% more resolution.
You constantly complain and compare apples to oranges to make up for the fact you miss images. I have birders in town that shoot the best of the best with top lenses and bodies form all the makers and they come into the store complaining about OOF shots. They always complain about the gear, but they themselves are the limiting factor. "My Canon 580EXII didn't reach 180ft to illuminate this shot in HSS mode!" Ummm, duh, it can't do that. "Oh? Really?" Yes, Canon is good, but not that good
I have conversations like this EVERY day with people that have too much money and no skill or talent, but believe the gear should make up for that lack of talent.
The best birders in our town shoot totally different setups, but have two things in common, dedication and patience. Do they shoot at more than 1FPS? No! Do they use anything but the center AF point? No! Do they complain about gear as the limiting factor? No! They've been doing this since film and understand photography from the mathematical sense and sure technology is great, but it ain't a band-aid for a bleeding lack of skill.
Gear has never been the limiting factor in photography as YOU constantly like to jab at the dedicated photogaphers on this forum who get great shots with their crappy landscape/portrait cams. Heck I get better shots of macro/nature than I get in portrait work and even dragonflies in mid flight... oh wait I forgot you mentioned Pentax can't do it. I lied it was with my imaginary D300.
You were once an influential person on the forum Tom, but as you got angrier from not getting the shots you wanted and the magical gear Pentax as supposed to make for you-you've become something along the lines of a RH. Jabbing in your personal vendetta against photographers who excel with Pentax gear and praise their gear for being such a great tool. I for one am finally happy that you got what you wanted and you certainly will get better results with your now pro grade camera vs your entry level camera.
BTW, the jab about pride in selling at MSRP is funny. Wait till you learn what the real costs of things are and how hard it is to make money off cameras. If you saw the cost you'd be like how does anyone make money not selling at MSRP... well the government will fix that soon with a few more lawsuits so I'm not worried and we still outsell B&H in areas so it's ok Tom we will stick to our pride and sell at MSRP and the lousy %5 gross profit we make on Canon gear.
I calls them as I sees 'em and I know I'm going to get a bunch of hate mail and Adam will get some too. But like I said I'm still me and my moderator tag doesn't stop me from speaking whats on my mind.