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04-10-2014, 07:46 AM   #226
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QuoteOriginally posted by D1N0 Quote
I wish this is true !
Bumming capability in perspective, versus Panasonic GH4 and Sony A7s !

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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
I think you are too much into speculation.

The K-3's announcement was determined long ago, and could not be delayed any further. Pentax was already late in development, they had serious transition and integration issues, and postponing the entire project until the new chipset is officially ready and software up to its full potential, iron all bugs and tweak details would require delay of extra several months. At least 6 months.

The new 645 will be released when the K-3 should have been released if everything was fully implemented. But would you wait for the K-3 until April 2014? They knew users were crazily impatient and would certainly write them off. The K-3's specs were capped in order to meet the October 2013 deadline. That was the only way.

The entire internal clock of the Ricoh Imaging runs backwards by 6-9 months. Even the GR would not have been released in April 2013, but together with the K-3 in October and with the new engine if there wasn't a constant peer pressure and internal delay — belated GR would mean giving up its entire market niche to Fuji and Nikon. A hard and unacceptable sacrifice.

Nikon really nudged them hard, before they were ready, thus the GR with specs from the "plan B" was released and luckily, Nikon also did not have the new engine in it (Fujitsu provides for both). The GR had to be released in April with as best specs as possible. Similarly, the K-3 with capped specs had to be released and available before Christmas 2013 no matter what.
Uluru: maybe if some capabilities of the chipset have been present but not exploited because of lack of time for development.
But I don't recall such discrepancies between chipset capabilities and implemented capabilities.
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Very afforable for a MF as well: Pentax 645z medium format camera US price: $8,500 | Photo Rumors
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that's a crazy price right there.

what FF?

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what FF?
Well, the one that is smaller, lighter, and doesn't require MF lenses, for starters.
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The global dealer inventory of second-hand Pentax 645 lenses just evaporated.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Quicksand Quote
Well, the one that is smaller, lighter, and doesn't require MF lenses, for starters.
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Apart from Z being so new and so luringly priced, I wonder what will they do with the 645D?
Hopefully it will stay in production, and sold at a steady but lower price than now, in a similar fashion as Leica's M9 after the M240's announcement.

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If Pentax continues production of the old 645D can it lure current 1Dx/D800/D4 users?

Medium Format video is a bit unprecedented though. I just wonder how long will the batteries last and how much computing power it would need
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Wow! I thought this would be well out of my price range, but if this is true, it is getting perilously close to doable for me if I sell off some of my other gear.

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Yesterday I've visited Ricoh-Pentax exposition at Moscow PhotoForum-2014.

We can only "look at" new 645D.

- Specifications and official announce will be literally very soon.
- Body is the same (I was with my 645D), the only difference is tilted LCD.
There is a red button for live-view.
- So as LCD is mobile now, buttons under and to the right of 645D LCD - moved right, to thumb zone.
And now K-3 control style is obviously guessed.
- Video option is on board. Swith of photo/video is on the little wheel, where was the focus point selector.

Unfortunately, there was no opportunity to shoot, and that is why I can write soon only "preview".
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QuoteOriginally posted by Uluru Quote
Apart from Z being so new and so luringly priced, I wonder what will they do with the 645D?
Hopefully it will stay in production, and sold at a steady but lower price than now, in a similar fashion as Leica's M9 after the M240's announcement.
It's an interesting question. In their place, what would you do? The choices are to pitch it a bit below the new camera, say around $6,500US, so it becomes a specification alternative or a second body option that doesn't cannibalise the new one, or pitch it just a bit above the high specification Canon and Nikon 35FF bodies, so it simultaneously draws some buyers away from them and forestalls any thoughts of entry they might have into MF. The advantage of either is the same to increase lens sales and allow further development in that area, something that wouldn't happen if they were to ditch the old body altogether.
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It's 4600 euro in Romania, that's less than $6500. But I don't think it will stay in production (probably that's already stopped) - as that means keeping a supply of Kodak/Truesense sensors, amongst other things.
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It's 4600 euro in Romania, that's less than $6500. But I don't think it will stay in production (probably that's already stopped) - as that means keeping a supply of Kodak/Truesense sensors, amongst other things.
In France, it's around 6,500€ with the 55 that alone cost around 1,000€.

I guess the old 645 is no longer in production.
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~5.600 euro with the 55 (24.949 RON, I used Google to do the conversion); and for a brief period at the end of May, it might be 20% cheaper (given its uncertain status, I'm not sure about that). You could order it from Romania

Stocks should last for a while.
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