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mee · 04-03-2014, 03:17 PM

Why all the shooting? What did the glass plates, film, or sd cards ever do to you?

Mr Bassie · 04-03-2014, 03:21 PM - **4 Likes**

Real photographers shoot barbs at each other on internet forums

**jatrax** · 04-03-2014, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Mr Bassie

Real photographers shoot barbs at each other on internet forums

Ouch............

johnmflores · 04-03-2014, 03:39 PM - **1 Like**

Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here.

Uluru · 04-03-2014, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by DSims

Interesting info - thanks.

By "top image quality performance a consumer can buy" you must be making assumptions about affordability, by not including everything that's available on the consumer market. Many people who can afford a $10,000 camera could also afford a $40,000 one, so I'm not sure how you can arbitrarily determine a cutoff price. Except in low light or other demanding conditions, an IQ180 back on a Hasselblad or Phase One body with a great lens will still win. And an 8x10 or larger film camera will also win, if you don't mind carrying it around. So there are obviously some preconceived assumptions here.
...

In photography there are no absolutes.
So the 645Z will not be the absolutely best camera in everything we think of, but judging the overall performance in many relevant areas for general purpose consumer photography defined today by DSLRs and mirrorless cameras, it should top them all, and better many MF counterparts.

**Aristophanes** · 04-03-2014, 05:08 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by johnmflores

Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here.

What do the imaginary photographers shoot?

I know

I know

Pentax FF!

DSims · 04-03-2014, 06:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aristophanes

What do the imaginary photographers shoot?

I know

I know

Pentax FF!

Wrong! They shoot Nikon MF!

richard balonglong · 04-03-2014, 10:39 PM

Real photographers can shoot using a potato..

Paul the Sunman · 04-04-2014, 12:32 AM

The countdown continues at the Japanese sites
?????? | RICOH IMAGING
and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. | RICOH IMAGING,
but has disappeared at the US site
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/

Kunzite · 04-04-2014, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here.

Originally posted by Aristophanes

What do the imaginary photographers shoot?

Complex photography 101, now available on Pentaxforums

---------- Post added 04-04-14 at 10:44 AM ----------

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

The countdown continues at the Japanese sites
?????? | RICOH IMAGING
and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. | RICOH IMAGING,
but has disappeared at the US site
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/

No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645:
Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. | RICOH IMAGING

eurostar · 04-04-2014, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645:[/url]

How smart!

**boriscleto** · 04-04-2014, 05:07 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here.

I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography...

lukulele · 04-04-2014, 06:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by boriscleto

I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography...

Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews.

clawhammer · 04-04-2014, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by lukulele

Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews.

This is true, but note that the K-3 is currently top on their "Most Popular Cameras"

**geomez** · 04-04-2014, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by lukulele

Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews.

I'm glad they're dropping crumbs after all the fiasco. The longer it takes them to get the whole review out the longer the K-3 remains popular on the site's news feed and forums.

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04-03-2014, 03:17 PM	#106
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Why all the shooting? What did the glass plates, film, or sd cards ever do to you?

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Mr Bassie Real photographers shoot barbs at each other on internet forums Ouch............

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Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by DSims Interesting info - thanks. By "top image quality performance a consumer can buy" you must be making assumptions about affordability, by not including everything that's available on the consumer market. Many people who can afford a $10,000 camera could also afford a $40,000 one, so I'm not sure how you can arbitrarily determine a cutoff price. Except in low light or other demanding conditions, an IQ180 back on a Hasselblad or Phase One body with a great lens will still win. And an 8x10 or larger film camera will also win, if you don't mind carrying it around. So there are obviously some preconceived assumptions here. ... In photography there are no absolutes. So the 645Z will not be the absolutely best camera in everything we think of, but judging the overall performance in many relevant areas for general purpose consumer photography defined today by DSLRs and mirrorless cameras, it should top them all, and better many MF counterparts.

04-03-2014, 05:08 PM - 1 Like	#111
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by johnmflores Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here. What do the imaginary photographers shoot? I know I know Pentax FF!

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DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Aristophanes What do the imaginary photographers shoot? I know I know Pentax FF! Wrong! They shoot Nikon MF!

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04-04-2014, 12:32 AM	#114
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,847	The countdown continues at the Japanese sites ?????? \| RICOH IMAGING and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. \| RICOH IMAGING, but has disappeared at the US site http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/

04-04-2014, 12:42 AM	#115
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by johnmflores Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here. Originally posted by Aristophanes What do the imaginary photographers shoot? Complex photography 101, now available on Pentaxforums ---------- Post added 04-04-14 at 10:44 AM ---------- Originally posted by Paul the Sunman The countdown continues at the Japanese sites ?????? \| RICOH IMAGING and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. \| RICOH IMAGING, but has disappeared at the US site http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/ No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645: Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. \| RICOH IMAGING

04-04-2014, 04:10 AM	#116
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by Kunzite No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645:[/url] How smart!

04-04-2014, 05:07 AM	#117
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by johnmflores Real photographers are too busy taking real photographs to comment here. I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography...

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lukulele Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Blue Ridge Escarpment, North Carolina, US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,850	Originally posted by boriscleto I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography... Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews.

04-04-2014, 10:03 AM	#119
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	Originally posted by lukulele Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews. This is true, but note that the K-3 is currently top on their "Most Popular Cameras"

04-04-2014, 10:09 AM	#120
geomez Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Roanoke, Virginia, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,760	Originally posted by lukulele Or giving Dpreview grief for the crumb by crumb K-3 reviews. I'm glad they're dropping crumbs after all the fiasco. The longer it takes them to get the whole review out the longer the K-3 remains popular on the site's news feed and forums.

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