Z countdown

tuco · 04-04-2014, 10:59 AM

I, for one, am happy to see Ricoh working on a new generation of the 645D. And I'd like to eventually see a few product options in their lineup for that format. But I certainly sympathize with those that would rather have them put more effort into APS-C or FF in the near term.

**Aristophanes** · 04-04-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by geomez

I'm glad they're dropping crumbs after all the fiasco. The longer it takes them to get the whole review out the longer the K-3 remains popular on the site's news feed and forums.

Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc.

Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA*55).

Kunzite · 04-04-2014, 11:28 AM

This "rather" is a problem. Pentax has an easy time on the medium format market, and should not lose it just because some people would rather have them make just one line of products. Not launching the 645z - when their competitors announced their cameras with the new sensor - means exactly that: losing an easy market. Besides, whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X".
But it's understandable to want more effort put into APS-C (and FF), while continuing with the medium format (and Q).

**monochrome** · 04-04-2014, 11:38 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X

PentaxIsDoomed™

johnmflores · 04-04-2014, 11:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by boriscleto

I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography...

I'm totally meta now—not taking photos and not talking (seriously, anyway) about cameras. I take photos with my mind!

**Aristophanes** · 04-04-2014, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

I'm totally meta now—not taking photos and not talking (seriously, anyway) about cameras. I take photos with my mind!

Darn tootin' Jedi...

DSims · 04-04-2014, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Quote
The countdown continues at the Japanese sites
?????? | RICOH IMAGING
and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. | RICOH IMAGING,
but has disappeared at the US site
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/
No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645:
Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. | RICOH IMAGING

It's a trick! See, this really is the new FF Z-1D or Z-2!

---------- Post added 04-04-14 at 01:11 PM ----------

Originally posted by Kunzite

This "rather" is a problem. Pentax has an easy time on the medium format market, and should not lose it just because some people would rather have them make just one line of products. Not launching the 645z - when their competitors announced their cameras with the new sensor - means exactly that: losing an easy market. Besides, whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X".
But it's understandable to want more effort put into APS-C (and FF), while continuing with the medium format (and Q).

Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days. They also have 2+ generations of everything in the digital format (except the 35mms have only had cropped sensors so far).

Last edited by DSims; 04-04-2014 at 01:24 PM.

**monochrome** · 04-04-2014, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by DSims

Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days.

Thank you! The is the salient comment of the year so far ragarding Pentax.

NotaxPen · 04-04-2014, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc.

Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA*55).

I consider the DA* 55 a strong point. It was the deciding factor in my becoming a Pentax user

I currently own 11 Pentax lenses; the 21-40-70 Limiteds, the 16-50, 50-135, 55 DA*s, the 18-135 and 50/1.8 DAs, and 28/2 and 135/2.8 "A'

I would give up every single other lens before I let anyone touch my DA* 55/1.4.

cali92rs · 04-04-2014, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by DSims

Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days.

They are indeed poised to...but will they take that next step and release an FF remains to be seen.

**geomez** · 04-04-2014, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

PentaxIsDoomed™

You trademarked it. Smart.

Uluru · 04-04-2014, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc.

Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA*55).

DA*55 is absolutely fantastic, upside down, inside out.
Especially when it comes out with rounded blades, new coating and a brand new ring type lens motor ...

raider · 04-05-2014, 03:59 AM

Wow, the "Z" reminds me of my childhood hero.....

Mazinger Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gazonk · 04-05-2014, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by raider

Wow, the "Z" reminds me of my childhood hero.....

Mazinger Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh no! It's not a new camera, just a manga special edition of the current 645d! Pentax is dooooomed!! ;-)

raider · 04-05-2014, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Pentax is dooooomed!! ;-)

I am sure you mean the enemies are doomed?.....The Z has never lose to a battle

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04-04-2014, 10:59 AM	#121
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,029	I, for one, am happy to see Ricoh working on a new generation of the 645D. And I'd like to eventually see a few product options in their lineup for that format. But I certainly sympathize with those that would rather have them put more effort into APS-C or FF in the near term.

04-04-2014, 11:14 AM	#122
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by geomez I'm glad they're dropping crumbs after all the fiasco. The longer it takes them to get the whole review out the longer the K-3 remains popular on the site's news feed and forums. Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc. Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA*55).

04-04-2014, 11:28 AM	#123
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	This "rather" is a problem. Pentax has an easy time on the medium format market, and should not lose it just because some people would rather have them make just one line of products. Not launching the 645z - when their competitors announced their cameras with the new sensor - means exactly that: losing an easy market. Besides, whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X". But it's understandable to want more effort put into APS-C (and FF), while continuing with the medium format (and Q).

04-04-2014, 11:38 AM - 3 Likes	#124
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Kunzite whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X PentaxIsDoomed™

04-04-2014, 11:51 AM - 1 Like	#125
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by boriscleto I thought they were too busy writing fake articles about photography... I'm totally meta now—not taking photos and not talking (seriously, anyway) about cameras. I take photos with my mind!

04-04-2014, 11:58 AM	#126
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by johnmflores I'm totally meta now—not taking photos and not talking (seriously, anyway) about cameras. I take photos with my mind! Darn tootin' Jedi...

04-04-2014, 01:05 PM	#127
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Kunzite Originally posted by Paul the Sunman Quote The countdown continues at the Japanese sites ?????? \| RICOH IMAGING and Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. \| RICOH IMAGING, but has disappeared at the US site http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/ No, they just changed the URL - removing the 645: Distinct Format. UNmistakable Brilliance. \| RICOH IMAGING It's a trick! See, this really is the new FF Z-1D or Z-2! ---------- Post added 04-04-14 at 01:11 PM ---------- Originally posted by Kunzite This "rather" is a problem. Pentax has an easy time on the medium format market, and should not lose it just because some people would rather have them make just one line of products. Not launching the 645z - when their competitors announced their cameras with the new sensor - means exactly that: losing an easy market. Besides, whatever Pentax makes - I noticed it on several sites/forums - it's always "they should rather make X". But it's understandable to want more effort put into APS-C (and FF), while continuing with the medium format (and Q). Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days. They also have 2+ generations of everything in the digital format (except the 35mms have only had cropped sensors so far). Last edited by DSims; 04-04-2014 at 01:24 PM.

04-04-2014, 01:24 PM	#128
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by DSims Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days. Thank you! The is the salient comment of the year so far ragarding Pentax.

04-04-2014, 01:53 PM	#129
NotaxPen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 123	Originally posted by Aristophanes Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc. Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA55). I consider the DA 55 a strong point. It was the deciding factor in my becoming a Pentax user I currently own 11 Pentax lenses; the 21-40-70 Limiteds, the 16-50, 50-135, 55 DAs, the 18-135 and 50/1.8 DAs, and 28/2 and 135/2.8 "A' I would give up every single other lens before I let anyone touch my DA 55/1.4.

04-04-2014, 02:14 PM	#130
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by DSims Again, Pentax is the only manufacturer that's poised to have a full lineup of ILC cameras, covering all major sizes - from the Qs to the 645s. And they aren't some n00bs to any of these ILC markets - they've had super-compacts, 35mm, and MFs going back long into the film days. They are indeed poised to...but will they take that next step and release an FF remains to be seen.

04-04-2014, 03:05 PM	#131
geomez Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Roanoke, Virginia, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,760	Originally posted by monochrome PentaxIsDoomed™ You trademarked it. Smart.

04-04-2014, 03:56 PM	#132
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by Aristophanes Sometimes it means they have trouble testing them. Bad copies, firmware, etc. Not exactly been a Pentax strong point (DA55). DA55 is absolutely fantastic, upside down, inside out. Especially when it comes out with rounded blades, new coating and a brand new ring type lens motor ...

04-05-2014, 03:59 AM	#133
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Wow, the "Z" reminds me of my childhood hero..... Mazinger Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

04-05-2014, 06:02 AM	#134
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by raider Wow, the "Z" reminds me of my childhood hero..... Mazinger Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Oh no! It's not a new camera, just a manga special edition of the current 645d! Pentax is dooooomed!! ;-)

04-05-2014, 06:09 AM	#135
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	Originally posted by gazonk Pentax is dooooomed!! ;-) I am sure you mean the enemies are doomed?.....The Z has never lose to a battle