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04-29-2008, 06:34 AM   #31
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Those are definitely at the top as is the new Nikon 24-70.
The 14-24 is macro sharpness in an UWA which is an amazing feat as well.

04-29-2008, 07:30 AM   #32
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QuoteOriginally posted by jms698 Quote
They may be ugly, but they are also DISTINCTIVE. Just like the white iPod headphones that let everyone know that the iPod is the MP3 player that every self-respecting person should own, whenever you see some photographer wield the distinctive white Canon lens that reenforces that "all" good photographers use Canon gear. All other lenses are generic black. No one notices them.

On that note: I think it is good that Pentax's DA* lenses all have that gold stripe/band on the front. Not as apparent as if they paint the whole lens a different color, but at least something to give high-quality Pentax gear a unique appearance.
How a lens looks is important? You have got to be kidding me. If that is part of your criteria in selecting optics for your camera you need to have your head examined.
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Haveing shot canon 1D's in the past, I can just imagine what a Pentax K20D with canons focus speed and fps would be like to own. I can dream can't I ? BTW, I owned a canon 70-200 f4.0 at one time and you are right it is a real sharp lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lol101 Quote
I'd guess around $1000 for the first few month, lowering to $900-ish afterwards and stabilizing around $800-900 thereafter (street prices)...

That could means an announce price of $1200.
That sounds aweful high for f/4 glass.

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QuoteOriginally posted by SGT Quote
How a lens looks is important? You have got to be kidding me. If that is part of your criteria in selecting optics for your camera you need to have your head examined.
While I have always prioritized optics over all else, it CAN be important.

Take a 500mm f4 from canon, toss it on your shoulder as you enter a sporting event. Chances are they will not even bother checking your press credentials.
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That sounds aweful high for f/4 glass.
Well, how much is a 300mmf4? Plus the 70-200f4IS is 1050 (discounted) and the 60-250 has more range.

I am starting from the assumption that the 60-250 aims at excellent quality on all accounts and hence uses high quality APO and aspherical glass which are expensive (I also dream of fast AF but...).

Of course, if AF is slow, images soft at f4 and there is a lot of Pf and CA... even 600 would be too much!

In fact, this lens is a real challenge: since it's f4 it HAS to be very good wide open and since it's a x4 zoom, it has to maintain a high level of quality through a considerable range.

If Pentax can pull it off, it will not be a cheap lens and it's 100% justified.
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I'm actually heartened that this lens was held back as long as it has been after the disappointing track record of the 16-50. I tried my buddies D300 and a Nikon 70-200 f2.8 and was extremely impressed with the sharpness that lens produced. It was sharper than my Voigtlander 180/4, though the zoom had the extra magnification going for it (just a little one-off shot test from a tri). While the 60-250 is an f4 and a different beast, I've now been shown that high optical performance and zoom aren't incompatible thoughts.

For such a workhorse focal range as the 60-250 will cover and with a DA* badge, I am really expecting a lot of quality from this upcoming lens. While pentax old stable had a lot of credibility, the comparitively fledgeling DA line has yet to come out from under the shadow of that. I believe a heathy selection of available pro glass will be required for the 'K1' launch if a healthy selection of pros are to buy it, which makes each new release today a stepping stone to future success.
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Not only does this lens need to perform, it needs to be really good to! and get here soon! I have a bit of time to hold out before getting a long lens so before I get a sigma 100-300 Pentax has about a month to get this lens out.

Also I hope to see the 250-600 F5.6 get remade in sdm, it is another missing part of the lens line up.

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Well, how much is a 300mmf4? Plus the 70-200f4IS is 1050 (discounted) and the 60-250 has more range.

You should be comparing it to the $600 non-IS version. Considering that I can pick up a 70-200 f2.8 for $700, I could probably get it and a TC for cheaper than the 60-250 at that price and have a more flexible setup. I could maybe see paying a little more than the 70-200 f2.8 for the extended range, but much more and its just not worth it imho.
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I know that Minolta had the 70-210mm f/4 lens (aka the beercan) that is very popular among sony/minolta users. But this is an old lens, and there really is no new equivalent in any other system. I am looking forward to the 60-250, but like you, I am also concerned about the weight/size.
Well, it is not 70-200/4, its 70-210/4 - my SMC-P A 70-210 f/4.
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