Are sales off the K-3 dead?

RonHendriks1966 · 04-25-2014, 02:23 PM

I was wondering about new salesnumbers and googled for it and came up with some site.

http://dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=jranking&view=all

So only the Q10 gets in the list with 3 items starting at #48. No K-3 in it for the first 80 places!!!!!!! So reviews are just there for clicking and not buying or is this list not accurate?

I know that overhere all sales off camera's are slow compared to a year ago.

At the popularitylist off DPReview where the 5 most popular camera's are listed during 5 days the K-3 was stunning popular. Now it is the Leica T (wich not a sole is buying), but the 645z didn't even make the list for a single minute.

Steve.Ledger · 04-25-2014, 02:39 PM

You can say anything you like with statistics. All depends who is paying for them.

Kunzite · 04-25-2014, 02:58 PM

I think it rather depends from which stores they're taking the data. We're often considering bcnranking's data as representative of the Japanese market, but is this really the case?

On kakaku.com's top DSLR sales, the K-3 is on the first page - at #13. The 645Z is on #103 (previously was in top 100), and that's amazing for a medium format camera.

panoguy · 04-25-2014, 04:24 PM

Uh, the most popular (over and over again) in sales is the Canon T3i, which was introduced in 2011. Maybe the K-7 would be on the list of Pentax didn't actually discontinue making it...

ElJamoquio · 04-25-2014, 08:54 PM

Looks like it's not on Amazon's top 100? Surprising.

Kunzite · 04-26-2014, 01:42 AM

What are you talking about, it's on #49

To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100.

RonHendriks1966 · 04-26-2014, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

What are you talking about, it's on #49

To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100.

Tha is better news. I looked in the biggest webstore in The Netherlands and the K/3 is #106 at the time.

goubejp · 04-26-2014, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

What are you talking about, it's on #49

To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100.

Pentax is always popular in France

**southlander** · 04-26-2014, 04:51 AM

I've just spent a couple of days roaming the flash big malls of Kuala Lumpur while on holidays. Canikon everywhere, some good Sony Center outlets. Even some reasonable Samsung stock. Found one store only that even had a Pentax display sign. And going in for a chat, they didn't actually stock any Pentax cameras. It would seem that you have your work cut out for you just to find a Pentax camera in Malaysia.

Getting a retail presence in specialist camera shops seems to be Pentax's biggest problem.

H. Sapiens · 04-26-2014, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by goubejp

Pentax is always popular in France

That seems to be true. I travel a lot and the few times I have connected with other travellers with a Pentax they have been from France. One exception to this rule, but that was arranged via this forum.

---------- Post added 04-26-14 at 03:37 PM ----------

Originally posted by southlander

Getting a retail presence in specialist camera shops seems to be Pentax's biggest problem.

Burnt bridges and all that... I don't know it it is THE biggest problem. I think they have a problem positioning themself - defining what is the feature that sets them apart from Canikon.

ElJamoquio · 04-26-2014, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

What are you talking about, it's on #49

To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100.

Must'a missed it, thanks. Expected it to be there.

Kunzite · 04-26-2014, 08:10 AM

It's not easy to spot with all those kanji and hiragana

ElJamoquio · 04-26-2014, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

It's not easy to spot with all those kanji and hiragana

I'm still blind!

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/photo/3017941#3

Bernat · 04-26-2014, 08:30 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I was wondering about new salesnumbers and googled for it and came up with some site.

http://dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=jranking&view=all

So only the Q10 gets in the list with 3 items starting at #48. No K-3 in it for the first 80 places!!!!!!! So reviews are just there for clicking and not buying or is this list not accurate?

I know that overhere all sales off camera's are slow compared to a year ago.

At the popularitylist off DPReview where the 5 most popular camera's are listed during 5 days the K-3 was stunning popular. Now it is the Leica T (wich not a sole is buying), but the 645z didn't even make the list for a single minute.

I don't care about sales figures. Love my K3 silver ltd, despite how many people buy it.

afan137 · 04-26-2014, 08:56 AM

It is declining, but Pentax K-3 never get lower than 20th position. Check kakaku:
http://kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/?lid=shop_pricemenu...ng_button_0049

Currently hold 13th position, with weekly reporting. And the best position I have ever seen was 7th position. I think K-3 is always in a good position.
FYI, I was living in Japan, and Kakaku is always a good reference for looking cheapest product sold by many online shops throughout Japan market.

04-26-2014, 01:42 AM	#6
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	What are you talking about, it's on #49 To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100. Last edited by Kunzite; 04-26-2014 at 02:07 AM.

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04-25-2014, 02:23 PM	#1
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Are sales off the K-3 dead? I was wondering about new salesnumbers and googled for it and came up with some site. http://dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=jranking&view=all So only the Q10 gets in the list with 3 items starting at #48. No K-3 in it for the first 80 places!!!!!!! So reviews are just there for clicking and not buying or is this list not accurate? I know that overhere all sales off camera's are slow compared to a year ago. At the popularitylist off DPReview where the 5 most popular camera's are listed during 5 days the K-3 was stunning popular. Now it is the Leica T (wich not a sole is buying), but the 645z didn't even make the list for a single minute.

04-25-2014, 02:39 PM	#2
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	You can say anything you like with statistics. All depends who is paying for them.

04-25-2014, 02:58 PM	#3
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	I think it rather depends from which stores they're taking the data. We're often considering bcnranking's data as representative of the Japanese market, but is this really the case? On kakaku.com's top DSLR sales, the K-3 is on the first page - at #13. The 645Z is on #103 (previously was in top 100), and that's amazing for a medium format camera.

04-25-2014, 04:24 PM	#4
panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Uh, the most popular (over and over again) in sales is the Canon T3i, which was introduced in 2011. Maybe the K-7 would be on the list of Pentax didn't actually discontinue making it...

04-25-2014, 08:54 PM	#5
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Looks like it's not on Amazon's top 100? Surprising.

04-26-2014, 02:52 AM	#7
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kunzite What are you talking about, it's on #49 To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100. Tha is better news. I looked in the biggest webstore in The Netherlands and the K/3 is #106 at the time.

04-26-2014, 03:31 AM	#8
goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	Originally posted by Kunzite What are you talking about, it's on #49 To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100. Pentax is always popular in France

04-26-2014, 04:51 AM	#9
southlander Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Adelaide Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,364	I've just spent a couple of days roaming the flash big malls of Kuala Lumpur while on holidays. Canikon everywhere, some good Sony Center outlets. Even some reasonable Samsung stock. Found one store only that even had a Pentax display sign. And going in for a chat, they didn't actually stock any Pentax cameras. It would seem that you have your work cut out for you just to find a Pentax camera in Malaysia. Getting a retail presence in specialist camera shops seems to be Pentax's biggest problem.

04-26-2014, 07:28 AM	#10
H. Sapiens Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 327	Originally posted by goubejp Pentax is always popular in France That seems to be true. I travel a lot and the few times I have connected with other travellers with a Pentax they have been from France. One exception to this rule, but that was arranged via this forum. ---------- Post added 04-26-14 at 03:37 PM ---------- Originally posted by southlander Getting a retail presence in specialist camera shops seems to be Pentax's biggest problem. Burnt bridges and all that... I don't know it it is THE biggest problem. I think they have a problem positioning themself - defining what is the feature that sets them apart from Canikon.

04-26-2014, 08:08 AM	#11
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Kunzite What are you talking about, it's on #49 To compare with Europe, the K-3 is currently on #94 on amazon.de - with 173 days in top 100. Let's see France - #36, that's better; or #53 on Amazon.co.uk. All in top 100. Must'a missed it, thanks. Expected it to be there.

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04-26-2014, 08:10 AM	#12
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	It's not easy to spot with all those kanji and hiragana

04-26-2014, 08:24 AM	#13
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Kunzite It's not easy to spot with all those kanji and hiragana I'm still blind! http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Camera-Photo-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/photo/3017941#3

04-26-2014, 08:30 AM - 2 Likes	#14
Bernat New Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Balearic Islands Posts: 1	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I was wondering about new salesnumbers and googled for it and came up with some site. http://dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=jranking&view=all So only the Q10 gets in the list with 3 items starting at #48. No K-3 in it for the first 80 places!!!!!!! So reviews are just there for clicking and not buying or is this list not accurate? I know that overhere all sales off camera's are slow compared to a year ago. At the popularitylist off DPReview where the 5 most popular camera's are listed during 5 days the K-3 was stunning popular. Now it is the Leica T (wich not a sole is buying), but the 645z didn't even make the list for a single minute. I don't care about sales figures. Love my K3 silver ltd, despite how many people buy it.

04-26-2014, 08:56 AM	#15
afan137 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kyoto Posts: 158	It is declining, but Pentax K-3 never get lower than 20th position. Check kakaku: http://kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/?lid=shop_pricemenu...ng_button_0049 Currently hold 13th position, with weekly reporting. And the best position I have ever seen was 7th position. I think K-3 is always in a good position. FYI, I was living in Japan, and Kakaku is always a good reference for looking cheapest product sold by many online shops throughout Japan market.